Record of large all-ins during tournaments

[QuantumLeap]

I swear I've lost the last 15 all-in hands during tournaments. I'm keeping track of them starting yesterday. I'm not including those where I have just a couple hundred and I'm dumping in with anything. I am including those where I go all-in with the exception of a couple hundred points.

05/29/12-

800 chips

Me: 88
Opponent: AK

Opponent catches K on the river.

LOSS.

05/30/12-

1850 chips

Me: AA
Opponent: KK

Opponent catches 4 clubs for a flush. Leaves me with 200 points.

LOSS.

05/30/12-
Built up my stack to 1200.

Me: JJ
Opponent: KK

LOSS.

[QuantumLeap]

05/31/12-
I'm not going to count this but I had AT with about 2000 in the pot (1000 left).
Flop pairs my T.
Other guy goes all-in with AK.
River shows a K and I lose.

I will count this one.
I had 900 points and went all in with 77 with a 7 on the flop.
Opponent has 66. He catches a 6 but that's all so I win.

I had 860 points with A6.
Opponent has AK.
I catch a 6 to win.

Betting with 900.
I had AT.
Opponent has K9.
Opponent catches a 9.
Record of hands that count: 2-5.

[GUMMO77]

05/31/12-
I'm not going to count this but I had AT with about 2000 in the pot (1000 left).
Flop pairs my T.
Other guy goes all-in with AK.
River shows a K and I lose.

I think this was the hand you and I were in, but if not, my bad.

For your tracking purposes, I had K10 and not AK; we both flopped tens and I sucked out a King on the river. Of course it was still a brutal river card and doesn't change that fact it was a bad beat.

Better luck in the future, QL

[QuantumLeap]

I think this was the hand you and I were in, but if not, my bad.

For your tracking purposes, I had K10 and not AK; we both flopped tens and I sucked out a King on the river. Of course it was still a brutal river card and doesn't change that fact it was a bad beat.

Better luck in the future, QL

Now that you mention it, I think you're right. No problem though.

Thanks for the luck.

[QuantumLeap]

06/01/12-

I had about 1600.
I have TT.
Opponent has 55 and catches a 5 on the flop.

I catch a T after so I win.

Another hand has me at AK.
Opponent has KT.

Opponent catches a T and I lose.

Record: 3-6

Record when at advantage: 1-4
Record when behind: 2-2

[nomeansno]

pointless thread

[QuantumLeap]

pointless thread

Perhaps you're right. Perhaps going 1-4 when I'm ahead means nothing at this point.

[GaryDN]

A thread is a thread, no matter !! fun is fun !!

[QuantumLeap]

A thread is a thread, no matter !! fun is fun !!

Thanks Gary but I think nomeansno has a point if he is referring to the small amount of sample size. Poker can go on long streaks either way so it really doesn't prove anything statistically.

I guess I'm just trying to see for myself the outcome even though it doesn't prove that there's something statistically wrong.

[QuantumLeap]

06/02/12-

I had about 1600 points.

I had A8.
Opponent had QQ.

I catch an A and an 8 to win.
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I had 2500.

I had KQ.

Opponent had A3 diamonds.

Opponent catches a flush for my loss.
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I had 1100.

I had KQ.

Opponent has A3.

I catch a Q to win.
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I had 1000.

I had QT.

Opponent had JT.

Opponent catches JT for my loss.
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Record: 5-8

Record when at advantage: 1-5
Record when behind: 4-3

[daneblazer]

Well I'll be dipped in dogsh!t. Looks like sbr poker is rigged.

[stefan084]

i like this thread-keep it going. just make sure you're behind when you go all in and you'll be fine

[Ez Money 77]

Dumb. I guarantee if u log every hand correctly u will see that the better hand when the money goes into the pot wins more often. Keep posting and remember to post if u put the money into the pot ahead or behind. Not like 1010 and he flopped a set of 7's then called your all in.

[daneblazer]

i like this thread-keep it going. just make sure you're behind when you go all in and you'll be fine

Why stop there? Just shove every hand and get to the point. You'll have a larger sample size faster and only be called by hands you're behind against, so the software will bail you out since you're behind.

[QuantumLeap]

Why stop there? Just shove every hand and get to the point. You'll have a larger sample size faster and only be called by hands you're behind against, so the software will bail you out since you're behind.

I still don't know if it will continue like this by giving me wins when I'm behind.

[QuantumLeap]

6/3/12-

I had about 1200.

I had KT hearts.

Opponent has 2 lower hearts.

I win with a flush.

YTD: 6-8

Record when at advantage: 2-5
Record when behind: 4-3

[QuantumLeap]

6/4/12-
I had about 1000 points.

I had 88.

Opponent 1 had QQ and Opponent 2 had AA.

I caught an 8 to win.
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I had 1200 points.

I had AQ.

Opponent had KQ.

I won.
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I had 2100 points.

I had QQ.

Opponent had AT.

Opponent catches an A for me to lose.
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I had 755 points.

I had AQ.

Opponent had 44.

I caught an A to win.
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I had 1000 points.

I had 88.

Opponent had AQ.

I won.
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I had 2500 points.

I had A9.

Opponenet had Q7 and caught a Q for my loss.
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Record today while ahead: 2-2

Record today while behind: 2-0

YTD record while ahead: 4-7

YTD record while behind: 6-3

YTD total: 10-10

[The Giant]

Awesome thread. Keep it going.

[QuantumLeap]

Awesome thread. Keep it going.

Thanks. I think I'll go for 30 results. Again, it's not statistically significant but oh well.

06/05/12-

I had about 800 points.

I had A4.

Opponent had KK.

I caught an A to win.
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I had about 1300 points.

I had T9.

Opponent had QQ.

I don't catch anything for a loss.
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YTD record while ahead: 4-7

YTD record while behind: 7-4

YTD total: 11-11

[QuantumLeap]

I had about 1300 points.

I had AK.

Opponent had K3.

Opponent catches a 3 to win.
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YTD record while ahead: 4-8

YTD record while behind: 7-4

YTD total: 11-12

[QuantumLeap]

6/7/12-
I had about 5000 points.

I had JJ.

Opponent had AK.

I won.
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I won't count this one since I didn't go all-in but my opponent did.

I had A8.

Opponent had A4.

Opponent catches a 4 on the river.
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I had 9000.

I had A66.

Opponent had A9x.

Opponent caught a 9 on the river.

You know, it's not just about the record but it's how many times on the river I get beat and not with a flush but with the very card my opponent needs that isn't being factored in to the record.
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YTD record while ahead: 5-9

YTD record while behind: 7-4

YTD total: 12-13

[QuantumLeap]

Just tallied it up. Out of the 9 times that I lost while ahead, 8 of those times my opponent caught the exact card he needed. Only once did my opponent catch a flush card.

What are the odds of that?

I did the reverse also. Out of the 7 times I won by going all in while being behind, I caught the exact card I needed 5 times out of those 7.

I understand these numbers are not statistically significant but they are perceptually significant. In other words, in my case the 16 times the person who was ahead who ended up losing, did so by having their opponent get the exact card they needed 13 of those times. I think this is what leads to the perception that the software is rigged.

[daneblazer]

I think these lead to the perception that the software is rigged

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

[TheMoneyShot]

QL - Seems to me... it's starting to even out a little???

I feel the same way you do... but I'm sure for every player it gets worse... then you get hot... then it balances out.

[QuantumLeap]

I think these lead to the perception that the software is rigged

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

Yeah, like I mentioned there is a perception of it being so. Whether there actually is or not will not be determined by this limited exercise.

[QuantumLeap]

QL - Seems to me... it's starting to even out a little???

I feel the same way you do... but I'm sure for every player it gets worse... then you get hot... then it balances out.

Money, the total may be evening out but what I find interesting is that the record for me being behind is 7-4 and the record for my opponent being behind is 9-5. That leads to a record of 16-9 for the person who is behind winning the hand.

Out of those 16 wins, 13 of them came with the exact number of card needed.

[QuantumLeap]

OK, last post in this thread of my results.
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I had 5500 points.

I had 59.

Opponent had 5T.

Caught a 9.
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The rest of these were on the final table so I had over 8000 points in each hand so I won't bore you with the details.
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I had KQ.

Opponent had TJ.

I won.
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I had A3.

Opponent had Q3.

I won.
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I had 22.

Opponent had KQ.

He caught a K and a Q to win.
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YTD record while ahead: 7-10

YTD record while behind: 8-4

YTD total: 15-14

Record for player being behind: 18-11

Out of those 18 wins, 15 came with the exact number of the card needed.

[downsouth]

Stop folding from the small blind when the big blinds stack is not even equal to a full blind.

[QuantumLeap]

Stop folding from the small blind when the big blinds stack is not even equal to a full blind.

Still holding on to that huh?

I had about 15000 points and would have had to put 1500 in to match. That's 10%. I'm not going to put in 10% with a crap hand.

It was heads up and my hand would have won less than 50%. It was the right call.

[downsouth]

Still holding on to that huh?

I had about 15000 points and would have had to put 1500 in to match. That's 10%. I'm not going to put in 10% with a crap hand.

It was heads up and my hand would have won less than 50%. It was the right call.

Wasnt holding on to it. Was merely trying to help you. If you dont understand it then so be, but it was not a proper fold. Ask anyone else here that has a clue and they will tell you the same. You may have been even a 60-40 dog but you were only having to call another 1400 more to win almost 6k. And he had no additional chips to buy pot or do anything else.

I know you only had around 15000 chips but the difference between 15000 and 13500 at that level when blinds are 1500-3000 is basically irrellevant.

[QuantumLeap]

Wasnt holding on to it. Was merely trying to help you. If you dont understand it then so be, but it was not a proper fold. Ask anyone else here that has a clue and they will tell you the same. You may have been even a 60-40 dog but you were only having to call another 1400 more to win almost 6k. And he had no additional chips to buy pot or do anything else.

I know you only had around 15000 chips but the difference between 15000 and 13500 at that level when blinds are 1500-3000 is basically irrellevant.

Thanks for offering to help out. I've heard that when a person's stack is less than 8x the big blind that there is a slim chance of winning so even going all-in is not a bad choice when you have a good hand so I can see your point.

However, I believe he had 3000 left so I was figuring I would have to put in another 1500 (bringing me down to 13500) and if he had a good hand he could add another 3000 to the pot which would mean I would be down to 10500 if I called. I didn't want to risk an almost 1/3 cut in my bankroll on a less than 50% hand.