NEED HELP from anyone in/watching 8am tourney today

tatddy · 03-06-12, 05:33 PM

Who cares how much time he took. If he typed in "tough call" before he called he deserves to get run over by a truck. Metaphorically speaking of course...

RudyRuetigger · 03-06-12, 05:42 PM

I was at the other table while this was happening. if im playing and its down to 2 tables I open the other table to observe the chat.

I missed the hand but observed the whole chat

From checking the other thread, the time difference is in dispute so I can't really comment on that but you say

Originally posted by BiTeMe UsAdOj

How do you explain the subsequent "it was a tough call" snarky comment after I said "why the slowroll"???? Love to hear that explanation.

OK... I'm mutitasking currently (as I believe you are) so as soon as I can I'll post in poker forum.

I know you sucked out and won, but I forget. Did the "tough call" come before or after the hand? here it seems to imply you said why the slowroll then he said tough call. so that comes to the timing issue which noone can be certain.

if yis said tough call before he called 25 more chips then yes its a slowroll. i think k13 said it to me 1 time

BiTeMe UsAdOj · 03-06-12, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

Did the "tough call" come before or after the hand? here it seems to imply you said why the slowroll then he said tough call.

Two different times, Rudy.

Yis said "tough call" before he even called (this isn't in dispute... just the time it took him after saying that to call).

While the initial "tough call" didn't sit well with me, after I felt he took a long time to actually call and I saw his AA I said "why the slowroll" as the cards were hitting the board and he responded with 2nd comment, "it was a tough call".

The quotes are exact.

so that comes to the timing issue which noone can be certain.

Someone that was at our table would be certain in the time length for yis to call in addition to anyone watching and paying attention to the actual hand.

if yis said tough call before he called 25 more chips then yes its a slowroll.

He, in fact, did exactly that. He isn't even disputing THAT.

i think k13 said it to me 1 time

Ah yes... k13... don't get me started on him and Nittany Lion and all the other etiquette dunces.....

Say Rudy and tat.... THANK YOU so much for taking the time to chime in with your comments, appreciated.

ballahollic2 · 03-06-12, 07:44 PM

That is awful then Bite, if he said tough call before he did anything that is so bad. the time after just makes it even worse.

Optional · 03-06-12, 07:51 PM

Forgetting about the disputed wait time, does it matter what Yisman's intent was with the comment?

I'm a poker etiquette dunce myself, and could see myself making a similar comment. Meant as a friendly commiseration rather than anything snarky or smart ass.

ballahollic2 · 03-06-12, 07:53 PM

I think the time frame in which he said it tho makes it bad. He could have called and then said tough call right after, taking the time to type it out only makes it seem longer in Bites mind i am sure and just does not come off very well.

ballahollic2 · 03-06-12, 07:55 PM

With all that being said he probably meant no disrespect from it but it just doesn't look good

RudyRuetigger · 03-06-12, 07:59 PM

i agree in that im sure yisman meant nothing by it.

if i was trying to steal with like 74s then i might jokingly say it but yea you shouldnt with aa for sure

BeerDog99 · 03-06-12, 09:21 PM

My opinion is that it has time issue makes it a slow roll which is not cool at a poker table in my opinion. The "tough call" comment is at the very least a needle that is not called for. I have never seen Yisman be a jerk at the table so I my guess is that it is an uncalled for needle.

If it was a few other players I would say the guy is just being a dick but I don't think Yisman is a guy that would do that normally.

BeerDog99 · 03-06-12, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Forgetting about the disputed wait time, does it matter what Yisman's intent was with the comment?

I'm a poker etiquette dunce myself, and could see myself making a similar comment. Meant as a friendly commiseration rather than anything snarky or smart ass.

In every game I have played in, it would not be a cool thing. In more serious games, I could see a big arguement ensuing....

JD426 · 03-06-12, 09:30 PM

Dude, who cares. It's online poker.

BiTeMe UsAdOj · 03-06-12, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by BeerDog99

If it was a few other players I would say the guy is just being a dick but I don't think Yisman is a guy that would do that normally.

I agree and said as such in my first post about this (please read points forum thread "4725 points needed"by Opti, BD, if you have the time to flesh this situation out).

This situation just wasn't cool.....

TY BD.... and thx also to tat, Rudy and ball and OPTI! for taking the time to comment.

Optional · 03-06-12, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by BeerDog99

In every game I have played in, it would not be a cool thing. In more serious games, I could see a big arguement ensuing....

Well I learned something not to do today at least.

Poker people are seriously weird.

RudyRuetigger · 03-06-12, 10:42 PM

its not poker people that are weird. in any form of gambling you should show your opponent respect. it just so happens in sports betting you are betting against a bookie, but still i bet you don't call to laugh at them when you win just as they don't call you and laugh when they ask if u want to reload.

BiTeMe UsAdOj · 03-06-12, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by JD426

Dude, who cares. It's online poker.

Optional · 03-06-12, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

its not poker people that are weird. in any form of gambling you should show your opponent respect. it just so happens in sports betting you are betting against a bookie, but still i bet you don't call to laugh at them when you win just as they don't call you and laugh when they ask if u want to reload.

If Yisman was laughing at him I could get the reaction.

But sensible poker people above say the words alone, however intended, would cause an argument.

That's what seems weird to me. As as I mentioned I could easily see myself commiserating in a friendly way in that situation.

RudyRuetigger · 03-06-12, 11:10 PM

yes, an argument was caused and then it was settled.

if you play any sport or activity for money and don't know the etiquette, i expect at the least an argument will happen until you know the proper way to handle those situations.

Optional · 03-07-12, 04:29 AM

Your call out thread has taught me just about all the poker etiquette I know Rudy.

I went to a local poker room about a year ago. Was looking for a new social activity as much as anything. But think I blew the etiquette that time, or it was a group of social retards.

Probably the former. As I played a warmup tourney with the early arrivers for $10 each. I had to be told it was my turn a few times. Then tossed a winning hand down on the table and was told I should lose as that was mucking it, but they let me keep the win. But then I went on to win. Not a soul spoke to me during the main tourney or break.

They were probably more glad I never went back than even I was. :-)

That was just my second live poker experience. And the first one was worse.

Please allow me to just think poker people are weird. It's easier than considering something is wrong with me. ;-)

no1here · 03-07-12, 10:00 AM

the key here is the $25. spread! higher amount and wouldn't of happen, time was ripe to be comical

wtt0315 · 03-07-12, 12:09 PM

i was at the table but looking at porn to. i didnt think it was a long time but i dont remember to well, just all the comments afterwards. Maybe he was joking with the comment? With only 25 more to call seems to be a good time for a joke. Maybe he was doing something else and it took a few extra seconds not sure. Every person is different though and if someone wants to slow roll me Fine it doesnt matter to me no more then what cards everyone plays. I have never known yisman to be disrespectful at the table so it would be out of the ordinary for him.

RudyRuetigger · 03-07-12, 12:17 PM

if it were live it would depend on how many beers i had as to how id react

im a happy drunk but can turn mean in a sec