A gentleman's discussion regarding the length of tourney levels in the Top 100.

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  • FuzzyDunlop
    SBR MVP
    • 01-15-11
    • 2422

    #1
    A gentleman's discussion regarding the length of tourney levels in the Top 100.
    This isn't a whining thread, this isn't a bitching thread (although, kind of ironic that last week I brought up that I would never bitch about formats during the 'That guy only has 2 cashes and gets a bye' thread). I bring this up as 'levels moved too fast' was the most common complaint in the WSOP final, there were multiple times in the mid-late stages where I had no real option other than what the blind/stacks dictated, I had a slight advantage being one of a handful that were making these decisions to get in a position to take the tournament down, but by doing so, I also had to run very very well, something I'm not ashamed to admit.

    The levels for the Top 100 are listed as:

    Round 1s: 21-50, 3000 chips, 8 minute levels.
    100-51, 3000 chips, 8 minute levels.

    Final: 5,000 chips, 10 minute levels.


    For the Round 1s, I can see both of those having issues in early-mid stages for the 1st one (General disclaimer, I am in position as of now to be in this one) and mid-late for the 2nd.

    The first tournament has less players in it, which I'm assuming is looked at as an advantage for those that finished in the Top 50. I make the argument that with less players, there are less overall chips in play and players M will be dropping at a much faster rate in less hands resulting in a shovefest after about a half hour when the antes kick in.

    The second tournament, with more tables should have a slower beginning, but with more tables, players will be in more shorthanded situations and seeing more hands per level, moving that button around faster.


    I understand and appreciate that SBR poker is for fun, for entertainment and provided to give a more recreational experience than some of the real money online sites. I also understand that this is for a Championship, bragging rights for some, legitimate SBR Store purchasing power on the line for others. I would believe that 5,000 start/10 minute levels for the Round 1s and 10,000 start/20 minute levels for the final would let us answer the question 'Who is the 2011 SBR Champion?' instead of 'Who ran best in the SBR Championship?'


    Best of luck to all of you playing and thanks in advance for keeping this discussion civil.
  • daneblazer
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 09-14-08
    • 27861

    #2
    The blind structure has been something I wish was changed for the bigger tournaments for some time. Either make the levels longer or make the blinds go up more gradually. It's hard enough to win a tournament as it is. In the current format, the variance is so high you might as well draw a name out of a hat to see who wins after an hour and a half has passed. These players have put in so much time playing daily tournaments, I believe it's a disservice to them to treat this as a turbo tournament.
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    • BeerDog99
      SBR MVP
      • 09-22-10
      • 4894

      #3
      This is exactly what I am thinking. I am real happy that SBR has made an attempt to make more chips in play but I think Fuzzy and Dane's points are really something to think about.

      Cheers and again, thanks a lot for doing this SBR, I have enjoyed being a part of this forum much more than any other site I have played on!
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      • aceking
        SBR MVP
        • 09-07-05
        • 4782

        #4
        at least you Americans don't have to play at 4am .

        but sbr poker players are so bad I sleepwalk thru' them .
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        • wtt0315
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-18-07
          • 8037

          #5
          4am that is about the time most of your europeans stop drinking
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          • BigDaddy
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-01-06
            • 8378

            #6
            agree 100%



            great post fuzzy
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            • RockyS
              Restricted User
              • 03-23-10
              • 1091

              #7
              Originally posted by wtt0315
              4am that is about the time most of your europeans stop drinking
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              • ThaddeusB
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-10-10
                • 8874

                #8
                Great post, agree completely that the structure is way to fast. If this is supposed to be about the best play, then the structure should reflect it. Major online poker sites have big tournaments with super slow structures every weekend and they still get hundreds of entrants. If someone thinks it isn't worth their time to play 3+ hours to be declared SBR champion then they aren't a serious poker player anyway and don't deserve to be in the running to begin with.
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                • k13
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-16-10
                  • 18104

                  #9
                  Make it 5 min blinds. PS structure.

                  Everyone in the top 100 is horrible anyway, skill won't make a difference who wins.
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                  • FuzzyDunlop
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-15-11
                    • 2422

                    #10
                    Registration is up, PW's sent out. Looks like it's 3,000/8 min. Tried, best of luck guys.
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                    • JAKEPEAVY21
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 03-11-11
                      • 29280

                      #11
                      agree with your thoughts fuzzy..I would prefer deeper stacks with longer blind levels
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