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  • jayfly
    SBR MVP
    • 10-18-09
    • 1234

    #1
    sbr poker becoming a joke just like all other on line poker
    dont understand why it is so hard to let us play fair poker. the shit i have seen the last few days is unreal. why is it so hard to make a rng that works right, 5 % hands should win 5% of the time not 20%. is that too much to expect.
  • jayfly
    SBR MVP
    • 10-18-09
    • 1234

    #2
    also this 3 x rollover stuff is a joke, cashed at 2 tourneys (finished 10th or 11th at least 4 times in a 2 week period but thats another story itself) and both times i tried to do rollover my hands would never hold up. just got gutted a few minutes ago. q 10 suited , 3 way raised pot, flop comes q 10 7, i check raise all in and both players call. one also had q 10 and the other had a set of 7s. how phony is that.
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    • daneblazer
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 09-14-08
      • 27861

      #3
      it wasn't phony to the guy who had a set of 7's
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      • jayfly
        SBR MVP
        • 10-18-09
        • 1234

        #4
        lol true. I dont mind the set of 7's. I actually played the hand bad, should not have shoved but there were flush and straight draws on the board(just like on every hand) My prob is the other guy having a q 10 as well, just seemed like such a set up hand, and the fact that there is a flush or straight draw on like 2/3 -3/4 of every flop. Just not possible.
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        • chemicalbrother
          Restricted User
          • 01-26-11
          • 4086

          #5
          you know whenever someone posts these 'omg online poker is rigggged!' there's like, a 99.9% chance they're not any good, right?

          and in the 1 in 1000 chance that you ARE good, and online poker IS rigged, you're pretty poor at decision making/self-control.
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          • gryfyn1
            SBR MVP
            • 03-30-10
            • 3285

            #6
            the more important question is why someone with Q 10 is in a 3 way raised pot
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            • Shaudius
              SBR MVP
              • 09-21-10
              • 1112

              #7
              Another question is why you're playing at stakes that allow your rollover to go all in. .50/1 is 100 max stakes, are you only winning min cashes? If so play on .25/.50 for less risk.
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              • stikymess
                SBR MVP
                • 05-19-10
                • 3288

                #8
                Jay I think you are taking it way to serious, Those that play daily see it all, at tourney today dude went all in with 10 3, two people followed one with AK other with maybe AJ so dude flops a set of 10's. Thad was at table and laughed at the dude, he was puzzled as to why laughing. Guy just didn't get it.

                It's at the point where when I get KK or QQ first thought is what nonsense is going to take place to knock me out.

                I'm by no means a poker player, I watched more poker this year than ever due to the Fuzzy thing and all that, those guys were lucky to get a pair, yet on this software (SBR) sometimes three players will have pocket pairs.

                Best of luck to you going forward.
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                • daneblazer
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 09-14-08
                  • 27861

                  #9
                  Poker is a game based heavily on math and psychology primarily played by people who understand neither of them.
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                  • darys
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 03-23-09
                    • 315

                    #10
                    It's funny that whenever small probability events happen, people complain.
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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65555

                      #11
                      It's OK, but I do see a lot of set over sets, and big pair versus bigger pair, but SBR poker is pretty much OK
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                      • jayfly
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-18-09
                        • 1234

                        #12
                        another tourney, another joke loss. qq vs a donk call with a 8 and ace in the window. earlier hand was two pair but of course runner runner for the phony flush. so this rng is legit lmao.
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                        • stikymess
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-19-10
                          • 3288

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jayfly
                          another tourney, another joke loss. qq vs a donk call with a 8 and ace in the window. earlier hand was two pair but of course runner runner for the phony flush. so this rng is legit lmao.
                          Had QQ as well, 75/150 blinds, I was bb, raised to 300, 3 callers behind me, flop 7 6 4, figured was in good shape, bet 1200, 1 caller that went all in! pretty much pot commited at this point IMO. Dude has 5 8 ! Really 5 8 and your willing to play it for 300, guess my raise wasn't big enough.

                          How do I play that better? Push all in on with QQ?

                          ***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
                          Hand ID 801368
                          $0 + $15 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 13:33:26 04/10/2011 ET
                          Table 'Table 16166', 10 seats max, Real money
                          Seat 10 is the button. Small Blind $75, Big Blind $150
                          Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
                          Seat 1 (playing) : DennisGreen, amount $2455, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                          Seat 2 (playing) : stikymess, amount $2355, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                          Seat 6 (playing) : Vortexx00, amount $3772, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                          Seat 7 (playing) : Stifler, amount $3931, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                          Seat 9 (playing) : YorkHunt1, amount $4630, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                          Seat 10 (playing) : boeingpower, amount $5090, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                          DennisGreen: Small Blind ($75)
                          stikymess: Big Blind ($150)
                          ** Dealing Down Cards **
                          Dealt to stikymess: [Qc, Qs]
                          Vortexx00: Fold
                          Stifler: Call ($150)
                          YorkHunt1: Call ($150)
                          boeingpower: Fold
                          DennisGreen: Call ($75)
                          stikymess: Raise ($300)
                          Stifler: Call ($150)
                          YorkHunt1: Call ($150)
                          DennisGreen: Call ($150)
                          ** Dealing Flop **
                          Community cards: [7s, 6c, 4s]
                          DennisGreen: Check ($0)
                          stikymess: Bet ($1200)
                          Stifler: Fold
                          YorkHunt1: Raise ($4330)
                          DennisGreen: Fold
                          stikymess: Call ($855)
                          stikymess: Show Cards ($0)
                          YorkHunt1: Show Cards ($0)
                          ** Dealing Turn **
                          Community cards: [4c]
                          ** Dealing River **
                          Community cards: [Kd]
                          ** End Round **
                          ** Evaluate **
                          stikymess: Show Cards ($0)
                          YorkHunt1: Show Cards ($0)
                          ** Showdown **
                          Main pot $5310, Rake $0
                          Side pot #1 $2275, Rake $0
                          Summary stikymess: bet $2505, won $0, net $-2505
                          Summary YorkHunt1: bet $4630, won $7585, net $2955, HoleCards [5d, 8d], HiHand [a straight, four to eight] [8d, 7s, 6c, 5d, 4s], won $5310 from main pot, won $2275 from side pot #1
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                          • daneblazer
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 09-14-08
                            • 27861

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stikymess
                            Had QQ as well, 75/150 blinds, I was bb, raised to 300, 3 callers behind me, flop 7 6 4, figured was in good shape,
                            There's your first problem
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                            • stikymess
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-19-10
                              • 3288

                              #15
                              Originally posted by daneblazer
                              There's your first problem
                              Come dane you have years of experience on me, give something constructive not a riddle.
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                              • daneblazer
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 09-14-08
                                • 27861

                                #16
                                I would raise more PF. You don't want to shove because you will scare away most of the hands that will give you action which you will dominate.

                                I'd raise it to about 750-800 preflop and get ready to shove any non ace flop. That's a nice pot to take down without a flop and anyone who wants to come along for the ride will be paying the price. Good luck!
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                                • stikymess
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-19-10
                                  • 3288

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by daneblazer
                                  I would raise more PF. You don't want to shove because you will scare away most of the hands that will give you action which you will dominate. I'd raise it to about 750-800 preflop and get ready to shove any non ace flop. That's a nice pot to take down without a flop and anyone who wants to come along for the ride will be paying the price. Good luck!
                                  Thank you sir, learning daily!
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                                  • jarvol
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-13-10
                                    • 6074

                                    #18
                                    Same three things everyday. Air, the sun, and whiny poker players.

                                    You lost. You're not that good at poker. Move on.
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                                    • Al Masters
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 04-29-06
                                      • 6940

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by stikymess
                                      Jay I think you are taking it way to serious, Those that play daily see it all, at tourney today dude went all in with 10 3, two people followed one with AK other with maybe AJ so dude flops a set of 10's. Thad was at table and laughed at the dude, he was puzzled as to why laughing. Guy just didn't get it.

                                      It's at the point where when I get KK or QQ first thought is what nonsense is going to take place to knock me out.

                                      I'm by no means a poker player, I watched more poker this year than ever due to the Fuzzy thing and all that, those guys were lucky to get a pair, yet on this software (SBR) sometimes three players will have pocket pairs.

                                      Best of luck to you going forward.
                                      Guy flopped trip tens you mean to say...not a set,as you need to have a pair in your hand to flop a set.

                                      I know it's the same thing but might as well get the termonology right.
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                                      • jayfly
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-18-09
                                        • 1234

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jarvol
                                        Same three things everyday. Air, the sun, and whiny poker players.

                                        You lost. You're not that good at poker. Move on.
                                        Gee you have a couple of badges you are a poker genius. What a dick.
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                                        • jarvol
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-13-10
                                          • 6074

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jayfly
                                          Gee you have a couple of badges you are a poker genius. What a dick.
                                          No i just don't whine or blame the software when I lose like you and dozens of other poker douches.
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                                          • jayfly
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-18-09
                                            • 1234

                                            #22
                                            So just played 30 hands. 24 of them had coordinated flops. By that I mean there was either 2 of the same suit, 2 connected cards (6,7 or k,q) or a pair. Thats 80% of the flops. Now I realize it was only 30 hands but that is ridiculous. Lets see where it is after around 2000 hands.
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                                            • stikymess
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-19-10
                                              • 3288

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Al Masters
                                              Guy flopped trip tens you mean to say...not a set,as you need to have a pair in your hand to flop a set. I know it's the same thing but might as well get the termonology right.
                                              Tough crowd, Thank you for the correction Mr. Masters.
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                                              • ballahollic2
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 11-30-10
                                                • 986

                                                #24
                                                all in is ur best play
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                                                • daneblazer
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 09-14-08
                                                  • 27861

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ballahollic2
                                                  Wait really? lol Your going to make it over 5x with 15 bb's? lol his ONLY two options are min raise or ship. It just depends on if u advocate being able to min raise with about 14-17 BB's and believe that to be to much to ship. making it 800 has to be the worst option of anything
                                                  There are far worse options. You shove there isn't much that is going to call you outside of someone slow playing something like JJ+ AQ+. Two of those you dominate, one you're flipping against and the other two you're dead in the water. You might get a call from a AJ AT or from a looser player with mid pp. I guess that depends on the players at your table. So that said it's not like shoving is a bad play, but I think you're missing out on value there. Raising with the intention of shoving against one caller is fine. Min raising sucks. You're never folding anyone out and you're going to play QQ in a big pot out of position the rest of the hand against three other players. No thanks. If you min raise, I don't want to hear any bad beat stories.
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                                                  • ballahollic2
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-30-10
                                                    • 986

                                                    #26
                                                    i take back what i said. I didn't read the hand history lol well he only has one option and thats to ship. I didn't realize people had called and then he min raised to two limps or w/e that was. That is really damn awful. Thats the worse thing u can do. Shipping is ur obv play tho. To much dead money out there
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                                                    • ballahollic2
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 11-30-10
                                                      • 986

                                                      #27
                                                      I guess that will show me to not read hand histories tho. I just figured no one would have made it 300 after all those limps
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                                                      • ballahollic2
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-30-10
                                                        • 986

                                                        #28
                                                        making it 800 tho does not help anything at all. you are wayyyyyy to short to ever do that
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                                                        • BeerDog99
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-22-10
                                                          • 4894

                                                          #29
                                                          800 raise leaving you approx. 10BB on the flop if an A flops is the only real move unless you just want to shut the action down now.

                                                          Min-raise is almost never the right move pre-flop, especially with limpers in the pot.
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                                                          • stikymess
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-19-10
                                                            • 3288

                                                            #30
                                                            Thanks for the responses guys, they do help!
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                                                            • Roadtrip635
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 12-07-10
                                                              • 6129

                                                              #31
                                                              It happens, played a tourney a while back, three of us all in pre-flop. Two of us had AA, the other guy had JJ and of course a J hits on the flop. The good thing was the guy with JJ pre was so short stacked it only put a small dent in our stacks and didn't take us out.
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                                                              • stikymess
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-19-10
                                                                • 3288

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Roadtrip635
                                                                It happens, played a tourney a while back, three of us all in pre-flop. Two of us had AA, the other guy had JJ and of course a J hits on the flop. The good thing was the guy with JJ pre was so short stacked it only put a small dent in our stacks and didn't take us out.
                                                                Nice job today buddy, another day another first place!
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                                                                • jayfly
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-18-09
                                                                  • 1234

                                                                  #33
                                                                  just played another 40 hands, 30 were connected and 10 were not. so after 70 hands we have a 54-16 ratio. over 77 %.
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                                                                  • ballahollic2
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 11-30-10
                                                                    • 986

                                                                    #34
                                                                    how does anyone think making it 800 is proper? Like for that matter everyone lol all in is by far ur only play. 25% increase to ur stack for picking up the pot. I will say his play of min raising is by far the worst play u can do minus like folding
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                                                                    • stikymess
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-19-10
                                                                      • 3288

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by jayfly
                                                                      just played another 40 hands, 30 were connected and 10 were not. so after 70 hands we have a 54-16 ratio. over 77 %.
                                                                      I just assume it's like that to induce action. Lesson learned, I will just keep my mouth shut and play, many take it way too serious.
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