best poker room?

[R3Sports]

ultimate bet?
pokerstars?
fulltilt?

which is your BEST poker site?

[slacker00]

I play UB for small stakes. I like the software better than anywhere else, it seems faster & more responsive to me. I understand that the games can be tough there, though. I just play for entertainment.

[R3Sports]

ultimate bet?

[Hawaiian time]

Bodog

[Mr Nuts]

I too like ultimate bet great freerolls

[betplom]

I have played at Titan Poker, Party Poker, Bet365/Prima Poker, and PokerStars. For sheer volume and selection Pokerstars is my choice, they also have huge $$ tourneys (100K, 1Million) etc.

[experte007]

For me Partybet. I am simply used to it and am not such a great or enthusiastic player anyway.

[Al Masters]

Hey Sports103,

pokerstars fulltilt and ultimate are probably the 3 best ,but pokerstars and fulltilt are certainly 1-2, always good action regardless of time .

PS has every game imaginable ,tourneys sit&gos,cash games ,wcoop, sats to all kinds of tourneys around the world,

downfall: good players all over the site, and the occasional freeze up.

[moses millsap]

Al,

What are you using to fund both Stars and Tilt nowadays?

[Al Masters]

Al,

What are you using to fund both Stars and Tilt nowadays?

OWNED,

I use western union and do alot of player to player transfers.

when i get a large amount that i want to cash out, i ask for a cheque.

[moses millsap]

OWNED,

I use western union and do alot of player to player transfers.

when i get a large amount that i want to cash out, i ask for a cheque.

I haven't done a ** to a Stars in years, assuming they are still not covering the fees?

[Al Masters]

OWNED,

No,they don't cover the cost of the fees,
when you send 1000$,the fee is 28$, when you use a player there are no fees,and the transfer is usually done within 20minutes, perhaps im not a good buisnessman ,but the fee doesn't bother me as it amounts to a bet.

PS also has somethimg called use your bank,Ive used this method it works well,however i don't like the fact that they don't let you cash out using this method,plus the limits are small.

[moses millsap]

It was always $68 per dime for me when sending to Pinnacle and various other books back in the day, rate lowered obviously with more that was sent.

Yeah, I've done a lot of the player to player transfers, but most people don't have enough in their accounts to do a transfer for me. You wouldn't happen to live in San Francisco, would ya?

[Al Masters]

I believe the fee has to do with WHERE you send it and the amount,

Sorry Owned i do not live in frisco, other wise id help you out.

maybe ill put you in a sit&go or tourney for a piece.

are you capable of making a showing?

[moses millsap]

If I go back to stars, you'll see me at the 30-60 cash games mostly. Tournies? Had a tough one today in a live tourney, final two tables, get it all in on the turn with the straight and get two callers (6 outs combined for them), bingo on the river, go home with nada

[Al Masters]

I take it you mean 30-60 limit.

OWNED,

Now is the time to go back there annual wcoop starts in september, satelites are continuosly running.

Their touneys are off the wall great value, I've been knocking at the door, a couple of 3rd place finishes, and 6 final tables in the last 6 weeks.

Plus they are giving away all kinds of european poker tour seats.

plus the cash games have great action if thats your prefrence.

although many great players are there,the donks certainly out number them,and with a tracker or sharkscope or PP, there not hard to find

[mockingboy]

Al-

PM me if you are interested in selling chips on PS for funds at any major sportsbook. It is so annoying to fund PS but I have funds at major sportsbooks and would love to do a P2P transfer.

Thanks,

[boldin]

why anyone would play online poker is beyond me. Its a total scam. Make notes on hole cards you get online vs in a real casino. Its truly a joke.

[Al Masters]

hey mockingboy,

I may be interested in making some kind of arrangement with you,i know how i'd get the ps funds to you, how would you get the funds to me from a sportsbook.

I'm not that savy bout how SB's run ,but don't they ONLY TRANSFER FUNDS between books to accounts only with the same user name.

i.e... joe blows account at bet jam to joe blows account at lets say pinnacle.

[Al Masters]

why anyone would play online poker is beyond me. Its a total scam. Make notes on hole cards you get online vs in a real casino. Its truly a joke.

I guess you had a bad experience Boldin, usually these words its a total scam, come from losing players, I'm not suggesting that,however if it is a scam 18 billion people must be wrong.

I've been playing at poker stars for like 6 years, and although i've taken many a bad beat,and felt like tossing the puter out the nearest window,let me assure you its not fixed

you see poker is based on all your decisions,perhaps your decision making isn't correct,perhaps when your runnin bad you continue to play and go on extreme tilt thus emptying your account,maybe you just don't have the online game pegged right and are playing as though your playing live.

Your theory of card watching in live games vs online games is an old one, with an old anwser, many many more hands being dealt online, thus what you see in 6 months of online play, you will maybe see the same in about 3 years of live play.

So you see the rate of seeing uncanny hands being dealt online is much higher then live ,leaving the impression that it may be a set up, but its not,its the brain on overdrive.

Finally getting back to your original statement " WHY ANYBODY WOULD PLAY ONLINE IS BEYOND ME"

IN my case its because im up approx 150,000K, in the last 3 years.im sure you'd agree that is bonafide reason.

I will give you this,you seem to be smart enough not to play a game you can't beat, however your reasoning that it is a total scam, is absurd.

[R3Sports]

AL, would you send me money for PS, and I would send you money via paypal?

[Al Masters]

Sports103,

srry dude i don't deal with paypal

[R3Sports]

no problem.

[pat venditto]

I would suggest not to play online poker. The cards are dealt to create action so the pot size will be bigger so the rake will be more for the card room. Alot more bad beats online than live. I lost alot online but live I'm a winning player.

[SBR Lou]

I wouldn't keep a very large amount of money on Full Tilt. I say this because they've established somewhat of a reputation among high stakes players for randomly freezing accounts, their CS is trash and can take over 10+ business days to reply in some instances.

Thats just my perspective, I feel safer keeping a chunk of my roll at Pokerstars where they atleast have a support staff which replies the same business day, and the tournament selection is by far the best.

[Al Masters]

Crazy,

Your perspective on the differences in CS at Full Tilt vs Pokerstars, is dead on, no debate,except one little thing,i must have sent 500 e-mails to PS over the years,i can't ever remember waiting for a respnse for more then like an hour.

You usually get a response from them within 30 mins.

[EJandV]

You Can Deal The Hands On Your Bed All Night Their Highroller Al Masters And See The Difference In Online And The Real Thing . You Comparing To Watching Espn ? You Are Pretty Funny . Maybe You Are The Messenger For Their Company , Maybe They Picked You To Spread The Word And You Dont Know It. Or Maybe You Are Full Of It . Either Way Online Casinos Are Nothing Like In Person From Any Perspective And You Never Know If The People That Are Sitting At The Table Are Working For The Place . Like When Break Is Over And Everyone Vanishes For Some Strange Reason And Leaves You Sitting There. Or How About A Trio Of Poker Hackers Or A Network , We Can Call Them That , Playing Together , Is Too Easy Really . All In The Same Room , Yeah Ooh He Raised Funny Raise Him Back I Got A 80 % On This Hand , Man If You Cant See Who You Are Playing Or The Dealer You Never Really Know What Up . Hmm Unless Of Course You Are Part Of The Network Working The Table. But Like Most Things In Life You And Many Like You Would Say That Would Never Happen To Me. Problem Is When Money Is Involved The Greed For It , You Never Know . Sorry , Just Truth.

[SBR Lou]

EJ,
Your caps button stuck on or some shit?

[Al Masters]

Hey EJ, well i usually don't respond to posts i can't completetly understand,no crime in not being able to write in english, however SBR does offer a previewpost option.

Secondly,i got a life so i have better things to do then deal myself a million hands in my bed all night long.(i take it, youve tried this experiment)

I don't recall saying anything about espn, dont recall comparing online or live with anything espn related.

As far as being funny, yes here you make a good point, i can be funny at times.

As far as me being the messanger for their company(shhh don't tell anybody),they already got GREG RAYMER, DAN NEGREANU,MONEYMAKER,MERCIER,HASCHEM,etc, etc.

Next, your brilliant comment about them hand picking me to spread the word, and i don't even know about it. are you serious.It's at this point i realize we unfortunatly do have something in common....we both can be funny.

As far as me being full of it goes, this is much more likely then me being there messenger or me spreading the word without knowing about it.
It rests with the reader wheather to decide if i'm full of it or not,either way all is good.

Continuing to disect your nonsense, perhaps you are also having some problems reading english, my refrence to agreeing with poster CRAZY(HIS PERSPECTIVE), was all about CUSTOMER SERVICE between PS and Full Tilt.had nothing to do with differnces between online and live games as you suggest.

Next you make a valid point there are huge differences between online and live games.duh everyone knows that.

I guess you never played in a live private game where its common knowledge that if the game gets shorthanded, a house player will play. I guess you never heard of a proposition player, a proposition player is a player thats employed by the casino to play with his own money,although that was mainly pre tv poker days.

Your next comment shows you are talking out of your ass,"LIKE WHEN BREAK IS OVER AND EVERYONE VANISHES FOR SOME STRANGE REASON AND LEAVES YOU SITTING THERE". This can only happen in a tournament and if as you say this actually happens then you can steal blinds all day long,oh by the way you see when a tourney starts every hour there is a break its at this time that many leave there puter to either grab a quick bite, or take a shit, or smoke a joint or whatever, and some do come back 5 or 10 mins late but that only helps you certainly can't hurt you.

Finally you bring up a legitimate problem that can arise from online play, collusion, its a deep subject, that has been discussed on poker sites since the beginning of online play, without getting to deep i believe each player has to make his own decision, if you think the games are being colluded DON"T PLAY, I would'nt if i thought they were,its all a matter of opinion, i respect your opinon on this, however it is not easy and takes alot of effort,some have been caught i.e jjprodigy,
and if you think that 3 or 5 or 7 people can just put 5 puters in one room and all jump into the same game and collude it and get away with it, your really not in tune to todays happenings.try it see how fast your account gets frozen.

Last, your departing words totally contradict your earlier comments,youve suggested that i was a mesenger for pokerstars,and that im spreading the word on there behalf without even knowing it,then you suggest that i may be part of the network colluding the tables.

Make up your fu kin mind, as moronic as you seem to be i'm sure you'd agree i cant be both a messenger for PS and be colludding there games at the same time.

Finally your comment about me,"YOU AND MANY LIKE YOU WOULD SAY THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN TO ME"

how can you say something like that when you don't know who the f. u.c.k i am or what im about.

And by the way even your final 2 words are wrong its not the truth its your opinion. JUST TRUTH????

[EJandV]

So you think I dont know what I'm talking about huh . No prob . Addiction can be a rough road with many ups and downs you take the good with the bad I'm sure . Defending that bs(online casinos) is really sick . For you to try and make it like I dont know what I'm talking about makes you really sick buddy . I wasnt talking about tournament play , all the lil bs you were saying to try and make sense of it . I was speaking of the simple casino play , no extra stupid shit or the exceptions to every rule thing , is a sham asshole . Some people do good but it is a ripoff and hurts hundreds of thousands of peoples lives !!!! You ****ing stupid mf !!!!!!!!

[Al Masters]

What a Donk......like talking to doorknob.

EJ snap out of it,were talikng online poker rooms,
not casinos.

Just cause i don't think you know what your talking about doesn't make me "really sick" just my opinion on your post, which by the way you slandered me in, so i see your good at knocking people, but have trouble taking it.

You said in your post that when you've played after the break people vanish leaving you..thus i thought it meant a tourney,since there are no breaks in cash games,yet in your 2nd wonderfull post you state it wasn't a tourney.

It has to be one or the other, see why i say your talking nonsense.

And if your so concerned bout 100 thousand people getting hurt,what da f.u.c.k you doing on a gambling site that encourages gamling which hurts those you speak about.

Maybe you should check out ICARE.COM

When your done there try wwwcheckers.com
may be more to your liking.

[SBR Lou]

Also, for those from the "online poker deals more beats" camp, obviously! It's no secret that 3x as many hands are dealt per hour online, so of course there will be more.

Al, if you want a good laugh, there's another guy who got smacked around online and now is spreading the word it's evil. He is quite delusional with his reasoning.

http://www.oagaa.org/html/online_poker.htm

[EJandV]

So what you are saying is the online casinos through sportbooks are fair nothing dirty . They have a goal , YES , to let people make money off them in the casinos to help build their bankroll . Got it , thanks , just when I thought people were blind . Very nice .

[EJandV]

If in person this is how the convo would go Mr.Satan . I would say so you really think a skilled patient seasoned player can make money gambling in online casinos ? Satan : you have to do this and this and be this and that , and blah blah blah blah . Then I say so these people arent money hungry trying to get rich schemers ? Satan : Why no they like to help people out they really dont want to get rich , you are talking like it is created from evil or something . I say oooh yeah so the greed for money doesnt drive pople to cheat , um kill , rob , umm what a minute you hear my question Satan ? Satan : nooooooo its nothign like that these people that run these big companys outside of the usa just love americans and would always be honest just trust me , nothign fishy about any internet gaming company , is kinda like the church you know how they are always honest . This is probably over your head too . READ BETWEEN THE LINES SOMETIMES , EVER TRYED THAT ? DONT PLAY WITH ONE SENTENCE OR THOUGHT LIKE THAT IS ANY PART OF THE WHOLE OF WHAT SOMEONE IS TRYING TO CONVEY . YOU SILLY ASSHOLE YOU .

[EJandV]

Paradise poker are sham artists , thats a fact . You dont know jack , this should be your name on here >>> DONTKNOWJACK , would be apporopriate in this case . All sportsbook.com games are crooked .