sending a gift basket to BigOrange, who i just ran off the 1-2 tables

[phinfan27615]

As far as this big blue guy, never seen him at the tables or heard of him until today. I got hot when I first started playing sbr poker and thought I was good at one time then the game humbled me. I would expect something similar to happen to big blue or anyone who actually thinks they are good bc they have a good week or two at poker

[cincinnatikid513]

lots of deposits , not bringing much back

E5D6F7	8/10/2019 5:40 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-45 [COLOR=#000000 !important]8,975.00[/COLOR]
E5D6BB	8/10/2019 4:38 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-200 [COLOR=#000000 !important]9,020.00[/COLOR]
E5D42B	8/10/2019 10:18 AM	Points transfer from Poker	SBR	bigblue74	Poker Withdraw	+259 [COLOR=#000000 !important]9,220.00[/COLOR]
E5D40D	8/10/2019 10:08 AM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-50 [COLOR=#000000 !important]8,961.00[/COLOR]
E5D3EF	8/10/2019 9:57 AM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-200 [COLOR=#000000 !important]9,011.00[/COLOR]
E5D21F	8/10/2019 3:40 AM	Points transfer from Poker	SBR	bigblue74	Poker Withdraw	+0 [COLOR=#000000 !important]9,211.00[/COLOR]
E5CFE9	8/09/2019 8:35 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-200 [COLOR=#000000 !important]9,211.00[/COLOR]
E5CFE8	8/09/2019 8:34 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-50 [COLOR=#000000 !important]9,411.00[/COLOR]
E5CFE4	8/09/2019 8:31 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-200 [COLOR=#000000 !important]9,461.00[/COLOR]
E5CFDB	8/09/2019 8:22 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-200 [COLOR=#000000 !important]9,661.00[/COLOR]
E5CFD5	8/09/2019 8:19 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-200 [COLOR=#000000 !important]9,861.00[/COLOR]
E5CFC5	8/09/2019 8:01 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-147 [COLOR=#000000 !important]10,061.00[/COLOR]
E5CFBD	8/09/2019 7:55 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-35 [COLOR=#000000 !important]10,208.00[/COLOR]
E5CFB3	8/09/2019 7:44 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-20 [COLOR=#000000 !important]10,243.00[/COLOR]
E5CFA6	8/09/2019 7:33 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-200 [COLOR=#000000 !important]10,263.00[/COLOR]
E5CFA5	8/09/2019 7:31 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-199 [COLOR=#000000 !important]10,463.00[/COLOR]
E5CF97	8/09/2019 7:16 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-150 [COLOR=#000000 !important]10,662.00[/COLOR]
E5CF7F	8/09/2019 7:03 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-50 [COLOR=#000000 !important]10,812.00[/COLOR]
E5CF7E	8/09/2019 7:03 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-43 [COLOR=#000000 !important]10,862.00[/COLOR]
E5CF78	8/09/2019 7:02 PM	Forum Contribution	SBR	bigblue74	Loyalty Reward	+12 [COLOR=#000000 !important]10,905.00[/COLOR]
E5CF76	8/09/2019 7:01 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-20 [COLOR=#000000 !important]10,893.00[/COLOR]
E5CF74	8/09/2019 7:00 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-180 [COLOR=#000000 !important]10,913.00[/COLOR]
E5CF70	8/09/2019 6:59 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-200 [COLOR=#000000 !important]11,093.00[/COLOR]
E5CF0E	8/09/2019 5:54 PM	Points transfer from Poker	SBR	bigblue74	Poker Withdraw	+0 [COLOR=#000000 !important]11,293.00[/COLOR]
E5CEE8	8/09/2019 5:16 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-199 [COLOR=#000000 !important]11,293.00[/COLOR]
E5CEE3	8/09/2019 5:09 PM	Points transfer to Poker	bigblue74	SBR	Poker Deposit	-200 [COLOR=#000000 !important]11,492.0[/COLOR]

[fried cheese]

lots of deposits , not bringing much back

wow. hes down $1.7k worth of bitcoin points and still talking shit.

[bobbywaves]

LittleBoyBlue had 16.5k pts back on 7/29, now he has under 9k.

With no: store purchases, gifts, or loans, can only mean the big mouth lost 7.5k on the felt in the last 12 days.

[bigblue74]

LittleBoyBlue had 16.5k pts back on 7/29, now he has under 9k.

With no: store purchases, gifts, or loans, can only mean the big mouth lost 7.5k on the felt in the last 12 days.

hey now while ur giving me a cavity search and all don't forget the points I'm holding in the sportsbook

[Optional]

LOL It just shows how stupid and "donkish" this SBR poker bullshit when people go all in, or call all ins.

There were only 2 of us left in one of the 30 person tourneys, and a dude called my all in with 10 - 4!!

I had ace nine and flopped a nine, and I thought I won the tourney! Went down to type in "GG"

and I looked up and the last two cards were 4 and another 4 and he had donked me out.

We were almost even before that, so it crippled me and I got second. Now it looks like that extra 100 points

that I DIDN'T get because he called and donked my all in with 10 - 4 will cost me getting into the money tourney.

If you give the other guy a shot at your tourney life heads up, you have to expect to be called by a wide range of hands.

Do you only bet when have the hand made or something Joe? I don't think so.

[dlowilly]

Big Orange is only in 95th place in the current contest qualifier. That should give you an idea of how good a poker player he is. He is completely unable to play short stack poker and refuses to play any cash games if even one player is short stacked, because he knows he will lose.

His strategy is to do whatever it takes and buy in as many times as necessary to build a big stack and bully the other players smaller stacks even though they might have a full buy in. That's why he gets so pissy when you buy in small, it completely neutralizes his strategy

[ArunSh]

His strategy is to do whatever it takes and buy in as many times as necessary to build a big stack and bully the other players smaller stacks even though they might have a full buy in. That's why he gets so pissy when you buy in small, it completely neutralizes his strategy

I really don't agree with that. The concept of a "big stack" bullying smaller stacks is a tournament concept - it doesn't apply in cash games! The idea of bullying is based upon the ability of a big stack to "eliminate" the smaller stack from the tournament when they can't do the same to you. But since you can rebuy immediately if you get felted in a cash game, that concept simply doesn't work there.

I think it's more that Orange wants to play a bigger game usually than what the blinds in the typical omaha games here allow. By making large raises preflop with holdings which are often marginal at best he obviously makes the pots much bigger, thereby indirectly making the game bigger, as though the blinds were higher to start with. But it's mainly that he loves to put pressure on his opponents postflop - basically those who have a full stack know that he's likely to force them to put their whole stack at risk postflop, and no doubt many are scared to do that without a super strong hand.

But yes, if someone buys in low that definitely is very bad for his strategy as it's much easier for them to shove over the top of him preflop or to call his big postflop bet as that often puts them allin immediately anyway - his technique of trying to put pressure on their whole "full" stack is simply not effective vs them.

It's like David Sklansky said regarding NL hold'em cash games in the past how players who were quite weak could play against the world's best just by buying in short and mostly just shoving preflop. The top players loved to be wild and aggressive, but they found they could not beat someone who played in that style since the whole strategy of outplaying them postflop (often by putting pressure on them like Orange tries) simply was ineffective.

He went as far to postulate that NL hold'em cash games, in some forms, were a flawed game for this very reason, that limit hold'em was the better form of poker since a player couldn't rely on that type of strategy in a limit game - they had to be adept at playing every street, not just preflop.

The legendary Stu Ungar was known to be similar - his main gift was reading his opponents and putting pressure on them when they were weak, no matter how strong his own hand was. But if the player was short enough that they had the ability to just move allin against him preflop without having to worry about him outplaying them postflop then his advantage of reading them better than they could read him would pretty much be entirely neutralized, again similar to what Orange wants / what Sklansky alluded to.

[dlowilly]

I really don't agree with that. The concept of a "big stack" bullying smaller stacks is a tournament concept - it doesn't apply in cash games! The idea of bullying is based upon the ability of a big stack to "eliminate" the smaller stack from the tournament when they can't do the same to you. But since you can rebuy immediately if you get felted in a cash game, that concept simply doesn't work there.

I think it's more that Orange wants to play a bigger game usually than what the blinds in the typical omaha games here allow. By making large raises preflop with holdings which are often marginal at best he obviously makes the pots much bigger, thereby indirectly making the game bigger, as though the blinds were higher to start with. But it's mainly that he loves to put pressure on his opponents postflop - basically those who have a full stack know that he's likely to force them to put their whole stack at risk postflop, and no doubt many are scared to do that without a super strong hand.

But yes, if someone buys in low that definitely is very bad for his strategy as it's much easier for them to shove over the top of him preflop or to call his big postflop bet as that often puts them allin immediately anyway - his technique of trying to put pressure on their whole "full" stack is simply not effective vs them.

It's like David Sklansky said regarding NL hold'em cash games in the past how players who were quite weak could play against the world's best just by buying in short and mostly just shoving preflop. The top players loved to be wild and aggressive, but they found they could not beat someone who played in that style since the whole strategy of outplaying them postflop (often by putting pressure on them like Orange tries) simply was ineffective.

He went as far to postulate that NL hold'em cash games, in some forms, were a flawed game for this very reason, that limit hold'em was the better form of poker since a player couldn't rely on that type of strategy in a limit game - they had to be adept at playing every street, not just preflop.

The legendary Stu Ungar was known to be similar - his main gift was reading his opponents and putting pressure on them when they were weak, no matter how strong his own hand was. But if the player was short enough that they had the ability to just move allin against him preflop without having to worry about him outplaying them postflop then his advantage of reading them better than they could read him would pretty much be entirely neutralized, again similar to what Orange wants / what Sklansky alluded to.

I'm not sure why you're saying you really don't agree with me. I feel like what you said was what I said and I agree with almost all of your post. But I disagree that bullying doesn't apply in cash games. That's the whole reason a short stack neutralizes his bullying strategy. Even though they might be buying in full, orange will try to bully players with his extra large stack numerically and psychologically. You said it yourself:

But it's mainly that he loves to put pressure on his opponents postflop - basically those who have a full stack know that he's likely to force them to put their whole stack at risk postflop, and no doubt many are scared to do that without a super strong hand.

But yes, if someone buys in low that definitely is very bad for his strategy as it's much easier for them to shove over the top of him preflop or to call his big postflop bet as that often puts them allin immediately anyway - his technique of trying to put pressure on their whole "full" stack is simply not effective vs them.

Sure he will try it with a regular stack size but he will do whatever it takes and buy in however much he has to to build an extra large stack and be the table captain.

[ArunSh]

I'm not sure why you're saying you really don't agree with me. I feel like what you said was what I said and I agree with your post. But I disagree that bullying doesn't apply in cash games. That's the whole reason a short stack neutralizes his bullying strategy. Even though they might be buying in full, orange will try to bully players with his extra large stack numerically and psychologically. You said it yourself:

But it's mainly that he loves to put pressure on his opponents postflop - basically those who have a full stack know that he's likely to force them to put their whole stack at risk postflop, and no doubt many are scared to do that without a super strong hand.

But yes, if someone buys in low that definitely is very bad for his strategy as it's much easier for them to shove over the top of him preflop or to call his big postflop bet as that often puts them allin immediately anyway - his technique of trying to put pressure on their whole "full" stack is simply not effective vs them.

Well yeah we basically agree on the general idea of his strategy - putting pressure on players. I just disagreed with your statement as to why it can be effective.

Simple fact is: if he's playing vs someone with a full stack, if he only had a full buyin himself, his strategy would be just as effective as if he has 5x full stack. Where having 5x full stack would give him a real advantage is in a tournament since he would not be putting his tourney life on the line when pressuring others, putting their tourney lives at risk and as a result making them far less inclined to risk busting when they can't buy back in.

[Auto Donk]

the guy sucks at poker.... he was, in the term he likes to use, "stacked" ten straight times a day or so ago, and if he hadn't sucked out five other times with shit, he'd have had 15 straight rebuys....

total f'n donk....

[dlowilly]

Well yeah we basically agree on the general idea of his strategy - putting pressure on players. I just disagreed with your statement as to why it can be effective.

Simple fact is: if he's playing vs someone with a full stack, if he only had a full buyin himself, his strategy would be just as effective as if he has 5x full stack. Where having 5x full stack would give him a real advantage is in a tournament since he would not be putting his tourney life on the line when pressuring others, putting their tourney lives at risk and as a result making them far less inclined to risk busting when they can't buy back in.

Ok I see what ur saying and I agree

[mpaschal34]

hey now while ur giving me a cavity search and all don't forget the points I'm holding in the sportsbook

he has 5924 in the sportsbook.

[bobbywaves]

he has 5924 in the sportsbook.

Yeah, despite no sportsbook transfers in the last 6.5 years. Among other interesting things in BigBlue's account history.