Starting to think there is something to this rigged argument

Auto Donk · 09-21-16, 11:14 PM

some new poker id fukstik hit a two-outer on the way to winning the seven pm trny..... he calls my move (i had ak) with ace rag..... actually i think he came over the top, I call with ak (he has a5).....

we flop k5 blank.... he rivers one of the two remaining fives to take cripple me and remove me from the chip lead five handed..... f'n rigged shithole, knew the prick was programmed to win it at that point, which he did..........

sucks ass is what it does.....

SharpAngles · 09-22-16, 11:53 AM

With such a huge sample size how could anyone argue it's not rigged???

JoeyBagels · 09-23-16, 08:07 PM

***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
Hand ID 6078628
$0 + $6 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 21:04:30 23/09/2016 ET
Table 'Table 68822', 10 seats max, Real money
Seat 4 is the button. Small Blind $10, Big Blind $20
Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
Seat 1 (playing) : shane, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (playing) : deadphish, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 3 (playing) : JoeyBagels, amount $1490, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (playing) : mpaschal34, amount $1440, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (playing) : Crypt1, amount $1480, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 6 (playing) : Krashman, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 7 (playing) : bigdaddyjames, amount $1560, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 8 (playing) : AustinRussell, amount $1530, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Crypt1: Small Blind ($10)
Krashman: Big Blind ($20)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to JoeyBagels: [Ks, Kd]
bigdaddyjames: Fold
AustinRussell: Fold
shane: Fold
deadphish: Fold
JoeyBagels: Raise [btn] ($60)
mpaschal34: Call ($60)
Crypt1: Fold
Krashman: Fold
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [Kh, Td, Qh]
JoeyBagels: Bet [btn] ($135)
mpaschal34: Call ($135)
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [7d]
JoeyBagels: Bet [btn] ($425)
mpaschal34: Raise ($1245)
JoeyBagels: Call [btn] ($820)
JoeyBagels: Show Cards ($0)
mpaschal34: Show Cards ($0)
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [Ts]
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
JoeyBagels: Show Cards ($0)
mpaschal34: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
Main pot $2910, Rake $0
Summary JoeyBagels: bet $1440, won $0, net $-1440, HoleCards [Ks, Kd]
Summary mpaschal34: bet $1440, won $2910, net $1470, HoleCards [Tc, Th], HiHand [four of a kind, tens] [Ts, Th, Td, Tc, Kh], won $2910 from main pot

Auto Donk · 09-24-16, 02:47 AM

i love sbr poker.... i'm finally able to trust that if I know i'm behind 20-80 when i get it in, I'm definitely good.....

there's a saying about "playin the player," well, at SBR, it's all about "playin' the software".......

mikemca · 09-24-16, 02:20 PM

I have been saying it for years. Finally got tired of playing patient only to lose late in the game at better than 75%. Hardly play anymore but when I do I go with the fck it strategy.

I'm not a tin foil hat guy but I have played millions of hands online through stars,tilt, bodog, UB, even royal vegas poker, etc... and never seen as much BS as I do on here. I still find it hard to believe it's rigged but I can't explain how dominant hands lose over and over

JoeyBagels · 09-27-16, 09:00 PM

***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
Hand ID 6085468
$0 + $6 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 21:58:30 27/09/2016 ET
Table 'Table 68910', 10 seats max, Real money
Seat 2 is the button. Small Blind $150, Big Blind $300
Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
Seat 1 (playing) : JoeyBagels, amount $1160, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (playing) : GaryDN, amount $5060, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 3 (playing) : daneblazer, amount $2085, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (playing) : hhsilver, amount $2192, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (playing) : astro61200, amount $3932, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 7 (playing) : jose21_us, amount $1190, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 8 (playing) : gunslinger572, amount $4170, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 9 (playing) : klemopixx, amount $3724, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 10 (playing) : blackbart, amount $3897, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
daneblazer: Small Blind ($150)
hhsilver: Big Blind ($300)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to JoeyBagels: [Jc, Js]
astro61200: Fold
jose21_us: Fold
gunslinger572: Fold
klemopixx: Raise ($3699)
blackbart: Fold
JoeyBagels: Call [btn] ($1135)
GaryDN: Fold
daneblazer: Fold
hhsilver: Fold
JoeyBagels: Show Cards ($0)
klemopixx: Show Cards ($0)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [4h, 9c, 5s]
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [3s]
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [2s]
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
klemopixx: Show Cards ($0)
JoeyBagels: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
Main pot $2945, Rake $0
Side pot #1 $2564, Rake $0
Summary JoeyBagels: bet $1135, won $0, net $-1135
Summary klemopixx: bet $3699, won $5509, net $1810, HoleCards [Kh, Ah], HiHand [a straight, ace to five] [5s, 4h, 3s, 2s, Ah], won $2945 from main pot, won $2564 from side pot #1

daneblazer · 09-27-16, 09:06 PM

Well there you have it folks. It's rigged

Auto Donk · 09-28-16, 09:12 AM

!t's a program. Definitely not a program that does what one thinks a fair poker program should do, which is dealy truly random cards as best as possible.

To the contrary, it's a program desigbned with a few purposes. The first, obviously, is to enable the game to be played correctly.... duh! SBR's generally does that at a minimal level, but has a few glaring flaws where it doesn't even meet this bar. Like its failure to even out tables in accordance with the rules of every poker tourny played anywhere, live. Equalizing tables in accordance with trny rules should be so easy, but SBR's program never gets it right, and usually gets it wrong in the worst way, by pulling a player who just paid the blinds on his table and setting them right in front of the blinds, where he immediately has to pay them again. Kills you late, usually, if you're hit with it. An example: two tables left, 13 players left, and the table with 6 busts one out, leaving 5 at that table and seven at the other. SBR's program will do shit like take the guy on the button who just payed the blinds at the table with 7 players left, and sit him right in front of the big blind at the table he is moved to equalize the players at 6 per table..... this happened to yours truly three separate times yesterday -- with Bosco yelling out for me to "ENJOY MY BIG BLIND"... maddening.... but i digress....

you have to focus on the other purpose of the poker program to be successful at sbr, and no how to exploit that purpose to win.... it's all about equalizer programming, and a program designed to keep enough people happy (IE, winning enough hands to consider themselves successful) to play at a site, to continuing making deposits when despite their obvious accomplished status, they take the inevitable bad beat and have to re-deposit), and allowing a substantial rake to be collected from the deposits of the the "win some, lose some" players.... Sbr's program was obviousy designed for a "for-profit poker sight," that would rake cash games, and is not meant for the way sbr poker is set up -- but it still plays that way: the goal being to let everyone win enough so that they keep playing the site, and don't go else where.... So, in playin poker here, you have to understand that it's about timing, winning some, losing some,etc.... fold equity has a lot to do with it, and winning early almost always costs you later in the trny.....

start slow, finish fast.... or, if you happen to win a few big hands early and do jump out on top, you best ride it out and play few hands until the final table, as you will inevitably give it back by either missing your hand or taking bad beats during the middle of the trny if you play too many hands (ask yourself how many times have you jumped out to the lead, with a quick 6-8k in chips, and then taken horrible beats mid-trny to give it all back and finish out of the money)....

there's a pattern for winning, and for running hot in general.... your time will come, but you have to know how to watch for it, and exploit it....

last tip for trny success, you have to lose some on your way to winning it all -- pick your losing hands wisely, so you can recover from them..... lose small pots, win bigger ones.....

follow these tips you might find yourself on top of an SBR Promo Leaderboard....

Slanina · 09-28-16, 01:10 PM

Yesterday 34 calls my AK all in preflop. He had 900 chips on 15/30 and called. I had 1300 roughly. He wins. I laugh.

daneblazer · 09-28-16, 01:13 PM

The ole 34 gets em again

fried cheese · 09-28-16, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by JoeyBagels

***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
Hand ID 6085468
$0 + $6 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 21:58:30 27/09/2016 ET
Table 'Table 68910', 10 seats max, Real money
Seat 2 is the button. Small Blind $150, Big Blind $300
Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
Seat 1 (playing) : JoeyBagels, amount $1160, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (playing) : GaryDN, amount $5060, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 3 (playing) : daneblazer, amount $2085, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (playing) : hhsilver, amount $2192, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (playing) : astro61200, amount $3932, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 7 (playing) : jose21_us, amount $1190, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 8 (playing) : gunslinger572, amount $4170, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 9 (playing) : klemopixx, amount $3724, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 10 (playing) : blackbart, amount $3897, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
daneblazer: Small Blind ($150)
hhsilver: Big Blind ($300)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to JoeyBagels: [Jc, Js]
astro61200: Fold
jose21_us: Fold
gunslinger572: Fold
klemopixx: Raise ($3699)
blackbart: Fold
JoeyBagels: Call [btn] ($1135)
GaryDN: Fold
daneblazer: Fold
hhsilver: Fold
JoeyBagels: Show Cards ($0)
klemopixx: Show Cards ($0)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [4h, 9c, 5s]
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [3s]
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [2s]
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
klemopixx: Show Cards ($0)
JoeyBagels: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
Main pot $2945, Rake $0
Side pot #1 $2564, Rake $0
Summary JoeyBagels: bet $1135, won $0, net $-1135
Summary klemopixx: bet $3699, won $5509, net $1810, HoleCards [Kh, Ah], HiHand [a straight, ace to five] [5s, 4h, 3s, 2s, Ah], won $2945 from main pot, won $2564 from side pot #1

lol losing a flip is proof of rig? your aj vs a3 was flawed also since the money went in preflop not on the flop where you calculated the chance to win.

franklee168 · 09-28-16, 05:42 PM

It's always rigged when someone loses, never on a win.

jmunzz1116 · 10-12-16, 07:16 PM

Online poker is rigged even when I win...problem I have is the US sites are so soft I can't stay away. Hard to turn down free money.

Triple_D_Bet · 10-12-16, 07:27 PM

Good example of how incorrectly using software can lead you to the wrong conclusion

brainfreeze · 10-14-16, 11:06 PM

Whatever it is ...my opinion is just an opinion...i don't think sbr itself has anything to do with it, they've invested in some software...i hate the software and the software doesn't feel great about me

and there's that ...

stackz125 · 10-15-16, 11:00 AM

garvardntl · 10-17-16, 12:54 PM

He was only a 1:3 underdog? Not sure why flop cards matter, if all the betting ended before the flop. You weren't a 99% favorite (just like the Colts weren't a 95% favorite on SNF).

garvardntl · 10-17-16, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by brainfreeze

Whatever it is ...my opinion is just an opinion...i don't think sbr itself has anything to do with it, they've invested in some software...i hate the software and the software doesn't feel great about me

and there's that ...

Good post. From limited experience I'd say online poker and real life poker are two entirely different games and mastering one doesn't guarantee success in the other.

Auto Donk · 10-17-16, 05:49 PM

very true, and you can pick up horrible habits playing online, and become "gun shy" due to the constant stream of badbeats you're gauranteed to experience on line, paticularly at blowvada and sbr, such that you play too timid in some instances.....

for ex, flopping bottom two live is a good time to trap; on sbr, it's a good time to get your ass reamed out if you try to trap, as 75 percent of the time the dumbass in the hand with you has flopped something, either an up/down draw, flush draw, maybe top pair, and if you get cute with bottom two, you're about to see 1. him hit a gutshot, 2. turn or river a flush, or 3. pair the bd such that his top pair on flop just counterfitted your ass..... in live poker, these three things rarely happen, on sbr, they happen just about every time some poor fukstick flops bottom two and gets cute with it....

also, sbr/online can make you too aggressive in other situations live... prime example being on sbr's rigged shithole, you get kk, even aa, you're very apt to over raise or not slow play b/c u know if you let more than onee player in with you, you're about to take an anal raping that would make bill clinton proud..... whereas live, you're not nearly as worried about the suckout that will inevitably hit u on sbr/blowvada......