for showing all of us how you can't believe a word out of a degenerate liberal's mouth..... got the royal flush pts (thanks, SBR!).... learn to read, Mike, learn to read..... all the skullpenetrating you're receiving must have damaged your brain and ability to read and comprehend information beyond a preschool level...... Love, AD
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Try decaf AD.Comment -
To be fair, chronic overuse of ellipses instead of periods isn't exactly the sign of a healthy brain...
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Take it easy on me, triple-d's; I use them generally because I'm too dim to figure out how the hell to make a paragraph break on this site. You can't be so hard on the rest of us, with your Ron Jeremy good looks and schwantz -- cut us some slack! And yes, Beavis, I said "hard on." Love, ADComment -
LMAO @ ron jeremy good looks! well doneComment -
MikeJamm has always been liberal scum and he whines and complains everytime he gets his ass handed to him at the poker tables. He's a terrible poker player but always blames his poor results on bad luck instead of his lack of poker playing ability. Typical liberal mentality. BTW Auto Donk, I can't do new paragraphs either on SBR anymore. Its a glitch they need to fix.Comment -
andywend, the piss poor non pro right wing douche bag! At least I play poker ass munch and can count. I can see why you don't, all those numbers and symbols confuse your tea party retarded mind. Now, hurry up and go sign up for Obama care, and get the special help you need. Like removing your head outta your ass, hey that's covered now!
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AD, you sure you aren't the Centaur?
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About the paragraphs.
In the upper left hand corner of the reply box there is a button that looks like this: A/A
When you hover over it will say "switch to source mode"
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damn, I guess I've grown so used to cringing when I see "AA" on this site, preparing for yet another bad beat, I avoid clicking on it.
Thanks for the info, now I can make post in paragraphs..... tho I only need one when responding to that loser, no-poker-skillz makejammpolelovin liberal, as all he needs is one paragraph, one word: autococking!!!!
hey mike, fook u, and read the rules u dumb fck............. ur a f'n liberaltard autococking braindamaged skullfcked piece of idiotic liberal sht! Now, after you clean your sht off ur guitar neck, go get your fckin shine box!!!!
And, Mike, tell me the name at the top of the leaderbd, u pathetic fck!!!Comment -
as possible as you sucking all the jizz outta those mountain oysters in your limpass avatar, bennylittlenutsbutadeepthroat...... wait, that's entirely possible..... so I guess I definitely must be this centaur fckweed you people obsess over. You got me........Comment -
The only thing anybody obsesses over is what a whiny little fuk head you are. You must have suk'ed a lot of sbr dick to get to top of a shitty software poker board donkey dick swallower. Here's a clue douche bag, nobody fuk'in cares if you turn off chat and then explain your dumb ass play in a thread. You must like hearing yourself talk as much as you like cream jizz on your face!
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It made no sense to pay $200 to renew my pro status so I didn't do it. I'm a die-hard conservative and you're a dead beat liberal, do you really believe you're better off financially than I am? Yes, you do play poker but anyone can sit down at a poker table and get their rear end handed to them every night.andywend, the piss poor non pro right wing douche bag! At least I play poker ass munch and can count. I can see why you don't, all those numbers and symbols confuse your tea party retarded mind. Now, hurry up and go sign up for Obama care, and get the special help you need. Like removing your head outta your ass, hey that's covered now!
I provide the best medical insurance possible for myself and my family. It costs over $1,500/month but I consider it a bargain and won't be going anywhere near Obamacare as that kind of piss poor coverage is meant for liberals not conservatives. Unfortunately, many conservatives are going to suffer along side democrats when they are forced into ObamaCare and its the former that I feel sorry about.
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$1500 a month?You're a bigger fuk'in dumbass that I thought. Yeah, keep criticizing the very thing that will bring healthcare costs down even for your stupid ass and insure millions of Americans who can now afford healthcare. You right wing assholes are all the same, me ,me, fuk'in me! You don't have a clue about the work'in class Americans in this country who keep it moving fuk head.
All you jerks care about is how much you can fuk over the poor and middle class. At least now parents can keep their kids on their insurance until they are 24. Insurance companies can no longer drop children or people with pre existing conditions. Maybe if you took the time to read the entire Affordable Health Care Act, you might just learn something andy. Of course tea party douche bags like you never will get it, because your head is shoved so far up your ass, you can't see any light at all, just darkness, and that is sad, really fuk'in sad.
Bottom line is, you're an ignorant racist who can't stand that a black man is in the white house, can't stand that a black man found and killed with worse fuk'in terrorist in our history, something no dumb ass republican could ever do. Can't stand that a black man stood up for everyone in this country not just the filthy rich.
All you fuk'ers have ever done is shut down the government, cost people their jobs, homes, security, and created constant grid lock. Your party is the whiny fuk'in babies who think they can stop the government process when they don't get their way. You're unable to compromise for fear you might have to share some of the wealth and benefits to all. It kills your lily white asses that a black man basically told you to shut the fuk up! And that my poor unintelligent friend is why you assholes will never control or have presidential power in this country ever again.
Oh and by the way andy, I don't hate you or anybody, I consider all you right wing zealots worthy adversaries. We have our views on life and the best way to go about living it. The only difference being, I look toward the future and what kind of world I want to leave my kids, you on the other hand could give a rat's ass about preserving the environment or saving anything for future generations. You don't care about giving anything back and charity is a dirty word to you greedy assholes. Admit it andy, you're so fuk'in tight you can't even give up a measly $200 to turn pro at a web site that has given out thousands of dollars to its members and charitable organizations. Why the fuk are you even here?Last edited by mikejamm; 12-03-13, 05:58 AM.Comment -
Andy, mike, let me save ya some time fellas: you're both wrong
If you want adversaries, go play a game where the stakes aren't the future of several hundred million people. Arguably the biggest single problem with US poltics is that it's 2 party, and that vast majority of people are so entrenched in that way of thinking they oversimplify, generalize and generally just ignore the truth about most of the issues. If you somehow believe against the evidence that the ACA will reduce healthcare costs (it pretty much can't by definition), that just means you're overly optimistic about what could be, to the point where you've lost focus on what will be. Republicans and Democrats act almost identically in this way, just on different issues...but the prevalent theme for both parties is increasing federal government regulation of every aspect of our lives.
As someone who didn't vote or either Mitt, McCain or Obama, I feel ike I can objectively say that Obama's record is pretty terrible. Not only does he completely own his own healthcare failures (completely predictable, as history has shown us most of what the government touches turns to crap) but he's also responsible for continuing the legacies of Bush (another terrible president) that he was arguably elected to stop. He's ramped up the war on terror (or more accurately, the US' crating of terrorism by terrorizing 3rd world countries and fueling the only reason they hated us that much to begin with, becase we keep killing their families) and has killed more women and children than terrorists....this might be the reasons Nobel Peace Prizes are usually given out after the peace, and for better reaons than the perosn isn't George Bush.
As I said, most so-called conservatives aren't any better...they want the government out of their business on some issues, but want the government to step in and force their higly subjective morality on others. Neither party has a very consistnt or logical platform, and we can see where their desire for increased government control has brought us: to the edge of ruin, with debt so crippling even a dreaded "government shutdown" (which shutdown less than 20% of the government) still left us spending far more than we take in for revenue. I personally want the government to mind it's own business and stop minding mine when I do things that don't harm anyone else. If I smoke weed, that's my business, not Republicans' (who screw it up when the War on Drugs ends up just raising prices, incentivizing gang violence and taking productive members out of society). If I want to support the needy or give to charity, that should be my choice, not Democrats' (who screw it up when the federal assistanc programs are rife with abuse, as could be predicted by any program which is applied so broadly and incentivizes people not to take care of themselves because somoene else wil pay for the consequences). There are several third parties whose platforms are a lot more consistent and logical, and a good place to start from for forming a political philosphy that makes sense and respects the rights enshrined by the Constituion. If we continue down this path, we really have nobody to blame but ourselves when we end up right where anyone could have predicted: broke, constantly bickering and scorned by the rest of the world.
On a lighter note, paying $200 to go pro doesn't make sense for a lot of people. Andy doesn't play poker here, and likely doesn't cursh the sportsbook enough to make it worth his while...why would he go pro, instead of donating $200 to a charity of his choice (and being completely sure that the money's going where he wants it to)? I don't donate through SBR for the samereason: whe I give, I don't do it haphazardly...I do what I can to make sure it's going to the causes want to support. Not accusing SBR of anything, but I prefer certainty.
Now let's get back on topic...I'll start us off: Is mikejamm really thecentaur's ghost? Discuss
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Nice statement Trip and yes I am the Centaur's ghost, living in Canada, claiming to be American while using a vpn to post from New Zealand! Those crazy kiwi's brew a nice pale ale up here!
In all serious though, you raise some excellent points, some I respectfully disagree with, but most are absolutely true and right on target. Has our president made mistakes, yes indeed, but all of them have bro. We too often forget these guys are human just like you and me and being the leader of the free world is gotta be one of the most stressful jobs known to man. I for sure as hell would not want to do it and you're never going to be able to please everybody.
That being said the man has had some great successes and has reached across the isle far beyond what Bush or any republican controlled house would ever do. I agree, Republicans and Democrats act almost identically on several issues pertaining to their parties own self benefit and that of their constituents. Which is why we have the government shit sling fest, get nothing done, in office now. I, just like you, don't blame the right or the left, it's both of their dumb asses. And when you have small fractions of radical ignorant minded individuals, like the tea party, it only makes the problem worse. It's to the point now where a small group of politicians can block the whole process of compromising and at least trying to find some middle ground where we can all meet and come to some agreement.
I see this as second term destruction, no matter who is in office, it's a known fact, since that president is in his final term, the other side will go outta their fuk'in way to block, turn against, and filibuster every issue, just to make the man and his party look bad. You've got to remember what President Obama has accomplished though Trip, He said he would bring the troops home and he's done that. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are ending and as he stated, it is up to Afghan soldiers and citizens to learn to defend themselves. We would have been out of there sooner, if not for republicans insisting we keep a continued presence in that country. And left up to them, we'd still be in a war over there and losing the lives of Americans. President Obama didn't start this mess, but he was the one who had to come in and clean it up. Give him some credit for having the balls to say no more fuk'in wasteful wars!
Also, President Obama authorized the use of more drones, so we could target just those fuk'ers who are the actual terrorists and not kill innocent civilians. When you can use intelligence and a pin point strike on a terrorist safe house or a car he's riding in, that makes way more sense than carpet bombing a whole city or town like Bush and Cheney did.
40 million plus Americans don't have healthcare in this country Trip, and another 20 million are under insured and their healthcare is a bullshit scam, ie.. get a serious illness and they drop your ass and cancel your policy. I know people wanna bitch and moan about the hassle and the roll out problems, but if you look long term you will see it will make a difference and healthcare costs will drop considerably once everybody is in the pool. That's the way it works man, the larger the group of people you have in there, young, old, rich, middle class, poor, the better it's gonna be. It creates a larger group of individuals who now won't get stuck with bearing the make up cost of those who don't have health insurance. Somebody has got to pay when a uninsured person ends up in the emergency room and those costs are past along in higher premiums for those who do have coverage.
Plus, think about be able the get preventative care. Most people wait until they are so sick or racked with a life threatening disease before they finally get to a doctor. By then its usually too late and the sky rocketed costs of treating a person at that stage is astronomical. Wouldn't you want your wife, girlfriend or mom to find breast cancer in it's early stage because she could get a mammogram without the hassle of a damn insurance company saying "no we wont' cover that". Or what about your kids (if you have any like me), insurance companies have been fuk'ing over families with children for years. God forbid your child is born with a birth defect or needs a surgery to save his life, you talk about going to war, that's exactly what you had to do under the old system! Not anymore. This AHCA will save lives and will help us all to live healthier.
I understand people don't like change. And the media and the right make sure the point out all the problems and exaggerate the lies. But you've got the give the man credit Trip for tackling a long serious problem in our country that should've been solved long ago. I don't like intrusive government any more than anyone else does, but sometimes it does work. Are we gonna just stand around while large corporations, insurance companies and banks control everything. Look what happened when Bush and Cheney gave control of the housing regulations and lending practices to these greedy bastards. They destroyed our economy and we're still reeling from it.
There aren't many great leaders who come along and make such a difference that everyone is able to say, the man had a vision, and sought to make the world a better place. The last one I only know from history, was John F. Kennedy. And even then, the evil of man kind silenced him. I know a lot people aren't ever gonna agree with what our president is trying to accomplish, namely because he's black and they can't even get passed that. The fact still remains, he was voted in by the the majority twice, into a job from day one to your last people are going to hate on you and criticize everything you do. He's still a human being just like the rest of us and his good intentions and accomplishments are worthy of respect.Last edited by mikejamm; 12-05-13, 05:53 AM.Comment -
Awesome thread.
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Mikejamm - great post. (At least what little I read of it). I did what most politicians (including Obama) did when they "read" the ACA. Stopped, in the 2nd paragraph when I was bored and still saw how much left there was to read.
Did you by chance list the accomplishment of making the US look like idiots by tapping other allies phones? And then there is the great NSA accomplishment too.Comment -
Nobody, I mean nobody read the ACA!Comment -
Wow, now i know why are the poker tables allways empty round here. You are all too busy insulting one another...Comment -
That....or we are at work and unable to play.Comment -
Nobody here has a job!Comment -
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Jayvegas is killing it in this thread.
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Really though the thing was 1700+ pages, even Barry didn't read it. Anyone who was required to vote on it couldn't possibly read that much in that amount of time. And besides JJ Gold, who works here name a poster with a legit occupation besides sucking farts outta seats on the city bus?
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Obama had nothing to do with that bullshit. And when he found out about it he immediately launched an investigation to find out what the fuk was going on. Why don't you do some research into Bush's Patriot Act and you'll fuk'in find out who was spying on you all along. I personally don't give a fuk, and no one should if you've got nothing to hide, because if it keeps some terrorist asshole over here from carrying out a mass killing or receiving money from some radical terrorist group overseas, more power to it.
The new world we live in pal, better get use to, cause it's only gonna get even more fuk'in intrusive. The things we don't even know huh? You're on camera every fuk'in day the minute you step outside your front door. And pretty soon, that city street you're walk'in on, will have listening devices to go along with all that video. I welcome it, better to catch some assholes who blow up innocent people watching a Boston Marathon before it happens, rather than after. After all, video cameras is what nailed those coward two punks! I'll take the safety of my family over your bullshit worries about privacy any day.Comment -
Auto Donk is NOT thecentaur
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And you've become aware of this after being here for less than 24 hours?Comment -
Hrm, looks like I was mistaken...you didn't give me a nickname, you can't be centy
Thanks for the thoughtful reply mikey, sorry it took so long to get back to ya!
Everyone make mistakes, but a fundamental disrespect for the constitution isn't a mistake, it's a willful ignorance of our founding principles and a symptom of the diseased way of thinking that claims better living through incessant regulations. Is he worse than other presidents in that regard? Not really, but that still doesn't make him right...and the claim that at least he's not Bush doesn't hold much water when he's only added to the civil liberty-destroying practices of Bush. All of this should be a moot point though, because so much of what the President does or doesn't do is actually Congress' job in the first place. Instead, they've given the President so much of their power (for political reasons I'm guessing, to get what they want and still get to blame someone else for the downsides) that the office of President is far more powerful than it should be constitutionally, and we continue incrementally creeping to a dictatorship.
I'm not aware of any great successes he had. Killing bin Laden maybe? I don't assign a lot of value to that aside from propaganda value for campaigns. He's accomplished some very small things (bringing troops home from Iraq much slower than promised was at least a step in the right direction), but he's overshadowed them with things like the contuining of the Patriot Act, the liberty-smashing provisions of the NDAA, and countless other things he hasn't vetoed and has outright supported. There's no "middle ground" in Congress, it's just grandstanding for their poltical game...when it comes down to fundamental actions they take, I'd venture to say they're well over 90% identical in action. "obstructions" are just temporary things to score points with low-information voters (a term which is hilarious only because it's often used by people who don't realize they're part of the group too!).
Forget the political games, which both sides play are terrible at their jobs because of it. Afghanistan and Iraq are still a mess, as could be expected...but troops didn't come home when he promised, and he basically just continued the Bush timetables where he didn't extend them. We've replaced soldiers with private groups and aid money, but we're still making the same fundamental mistake of thinking we have the ability (or any right) to try to tell other countries how to live. Again, war should be Congress' duty, but since they haven't wanted it in decades the President gets the blame (as they no doubt prefer). As for no more wars...this is the same guy who was chomping at the bit to get into Syria, who went to Libya, and who conducts violations of other countries soverignty every day through not-so-covert ops. We might not be at war with Pakistan on paper, but it's hard to fathom the logic of endlessly drone-striking Pakistan and not calling it war. It will be interesting to see how history books handle the irony of getting a Nobel Peace Prize for not being your predecessor, then ramping up all of his war-mongering efforts.[/quote]
Therein lies the problem: these drone strikes aren't in any way as accurate as you describe. Independent studies have shown that only about 2% of the people killed are actually terrorists, with the rest "collateral damage"....more women and children are killed than actual terrorists. Amazingly, we try to fudge these numbers by implementing policies claiming that any male victim of age who dies in a blast is automatically assumed to be a terrorist, inflating the numbers of terrorists we say were killed. Pretty astounding for a country that claims to believe in due process, respect for the rule of law or even general decency...but all that stuff goes out the window when you do things like specifically target first responders and funerals with drone strikes. This isn't anything new; we've been doing similarly stupid shit for decades now, creating our own enemies and giving them every reason to hate us as well as the motivation (if China killed your kids in a drone strike, do you think maybe you'd want to cause them harm??). But just because it isn't new doesn't mean the people currently doing it aren't wrong.
There are problems with health care for sure, many stemming from false assumptions. There is no such thing as a "right" to someone elses services, whether that's an auto mechanic's services, a garbage man's or a doctor's. Forcing someone else to provide services to you against their will is the exact opposite of freedom. Do I think we could construct a system that provided basic coverage to people who can't afford it and that we should? Absolutely, but that is my personal opinion, and as such, I should be free to give money to causes to support what I think is right. But I have no right to force my neighbor to give to causes he might not support. This is a fundamental problem of government and one that's contributing greatly to us spending ourselves into oblivion as well as consuming so much time and effort: most people think we should help the needy, but we continue to try to force a tax-funded, one-size-fits-all solution instead of letting people keep their money and donate freely to the solution of their choice. If we do that, the organizations that most closely reflect our values will thrive and everyone can have their say in how the million little details should be handled. If people don't give enough money to cover as much as you or I might like...we might judge non-givers as heartless people, but that still wouldn't give us a right to spend their money against their will. When we try, we get things like the ACA, which doesn't decrease costs in the short or long run. Despite people's rose-colored glasses, it's fundamentally unable to decrease prices; insurers aren't going to be forced to lose money, and providing more services for "free" isn't helping (not free, just subsidized by taxpayers, often the very ones the law is supposedly helping). There's already a huge backlash with people getting their hours cut so businesses don't have to pay their healthcare, and young people aren't signing up as projected (why would they, when they can just pay a fine and get insurance with a pre-existing condition if anything bad happens to them?). People call the companies heartless, but it only makes sense; companies exist to make money (for their shareholders no less, often the middle class who gets so fervent about big bad corporations). if it was in the companies' interest to give their employees healthcare, they would have already done so without government intervention...it's not, so they'll avoid it by hiring more people for fewer hours. The effects on employment from the ACA are entirely predictable, and goes to show the futility of people who don't understand economics meddling in them. Which calls into question the lack of quality in increasingly federally-controlled education, just another instance of government ineptitude with far-reaching repurcussions.
This isn't a "change is bad" thing....most people like change when it's good. The media is a business; it exists for ratings...instead of blaming them, we should be blaming people who can't exercise enough skepticism and blindly believe what they want to (most voters it seems). Large corporations control what they do because people voluntarily buy their stuff...if you want to stop them, stop buying their stuff! That kind of feedback is how a market is supposed to work. Instead, we try to legislate around economic truths, and instead we end up creating a system where companies are incentivized to buy congressmen to legislate in their favor. Take that power away from the government and there will be no influence left to buy; businesses will then have to survive based on their customer's approval instead of hidden subsidies from their taxes. Intrusive government doesn't work, simply because the government can't make optimal choices (can't keep everyone happy) as well as individuals making choices can. Every time you give the government more power and try to create a one-size-fits-all solution, it only introduces inefficiencies and tramples on freedom.
I have nothing against Obama personally (as so many right-wingers seem to)...he's probably just as well-intentioned as Bush, Clinton, Regan or any other recent President. However, the job he's doing it horrible; being the shiniest of two turds still means you're a turd!
Apologies for anyone else reading all that who was hoping for more poker drama. I'll do what I can...
"AutoDonk you *** piece of **** go *** a **** and keep ****** the dealer when he gives you **** card after *** card to bail your *** ***** out in this rigged ****** of a poker room!"Comment
Damn trip I love the ellipses. 
you just beat me up.
