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  • TheCentaur
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-28-11
    • 8108

    #1
    Since poker sites admit to segregation now, why is it so hard to believe...
    that they have been rigging the software for action pots (= higher rake)?
  • UntilTheNDofTimE
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-29-08
    • 9285

    #2
    Is online poker rake not fixed? I never really played that much online to really notice. If rake is fixed like land based casinos then making action pots would be useless.
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    • TheCentaur
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-28-11
      • 8108

      #3
      no, at least it wasn't when I was playing. It was a percentage of pot up to a max amount.
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      • UntilTheNDofTimE
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 05-29-08
        • 9285

        #4
        Yea up to a max amount. Likely in any game bigger than 1/2 the max amount wud be reached in a relatively small pot. Max was prab $5? You dont need to give everyone set up hands to get a $50 pot.
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        • icancount2one
          SBR MVP
          • 01-05-10
          • 1507

          #5
          What are you saying about "segregation" ?
          Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82894

            #6
            The software will deal boats and flushes and straights and trips on the same round to various players. This is done on purpose to increase the chips being placed and called by players. It's simple math. The rake is higher on a $100 pot than a $500 pot.
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            • UntilTheNDofTimE
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 05-29-08
              • 9285

              #7
              No Limit and Pot Limit Games
              With 2 players, the rake is 5 cents per every $1 in the pot, with a maximum rake of 50 cents.


              With 3 players, the rake is 5 cents per every $1 in the pot with a maximum rake of $1.


              With 4 or 5 players, the rake is 5 cents per every $1 in the pot, with a maximum rake of $2.


              With 6 to 10 players, the rake is 5 cents per every $1 in the pot, with a maximum rake of $3.
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              • TheCentaur
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                • 06-28-11
                • 8108

                #8
                Originally posted by pavyracer
                The software will deal boats and flushes and straights and trips on the same round to various players. This is done on purpose to increase the chips being placed and called by players. It's simple math. The rake is higher on a $100 pot than a $500 pot.
                Untiltheendoftime is saying if there is a max $5 rake this is met in $100 pot or a $500 pot which is true. The majority of the tables are low and mid limits though which with the nitty players they usually contain would struggle to reach the max rake threshold IMO
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                • UntilTheNDofTimE
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                  • 05-29-08
                  • 9285

                  #9
                  Rake is $3 regardless
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                  • UntilTheNDofTimE
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                    • 05-29-08
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                    #10
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                    • UntilTheNDofTimE
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                      • 05-29-08
                      • 9285

                      #11
                      Maybe its just cause i grew up a live player but i cant stand playing a game with less than a 500 buy in. I mostly like to play 5/10 with 1,000 min buy in. I dont no how some ppl play 1 cent 2 cent micros. And the ppl that play these micro limits as grinders are very very good. They make like $15 a hour grinding low limits.
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                      • rm18
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-20-05
                        • 22292

                        #12
                        online is a lot harder you cant play that high plus raises are smaller so not going to get max rake below 5/10 blinds consistently
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                        • daneblazer
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 09-14-08
                          • 27862

                          #13
                          The whole segregation thing is to keep money in their poker economy. If you have people of the same skill level playing against each other they are just going to trade around money and accumulate rake while rarely cashing out. "Fish's" risk of ruin is much higher than a reg's. If the site keeps the fish away from the reg who cashes out the site will probably get that fish's money eventually.
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                          • icancount2one
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-05-10
                            • 1507

                            #14
                            Right, I see that LockPoker and other sites that are up now are doing this, but did FTP and Stars admit to ever doing this?
                            Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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                            • daneblazer
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 09-14-08
                              • 27862

                              #15
                              I think it'd be pretty obvious if Tilt or Stars decided to go that route. Not only would it be obvious at the tables, but the back fire on poker sites would be tremendous.
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