Total bs rigged way to end the tournament SBR

[TheCentaur]

3 handed the shortstack pushes other guy reraises all in so I call with 88 knowing either I am good or at least have second place because the chip leader must have a great hand. Here's how it played out...

Hand ID 3026646
$0 + $0 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 23:36:30 23/03/2013 ET
Table 'Table 42871', 10 seats max, Real money Seat 7 is the button. Small Blind $4000, Big Blind $8000 Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
Seat 6 (playing) : thecentaur, amount $77588, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 7 (playing) : tkim8404, amount $14020, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 10 (playing) : ramones951, amount $158392, amount bet $0, penalty (None) ramones951: Small Blind ($4000)
thecentaur: Big Blind ($8000)
**Calculating how to fuk thecentaur**
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to thecentaur: [8h, 8d]
tkim8404: Raise ($13620)
ramones951: Raise ($157992)
thecentaur: Call [btn] ($69188)
thecentaur: Show Cards ($0)
tkim8404: Show Cards ($0)
ramones951: Show Cards ($0)
**Calculating typical dramatic bs flop**
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [As, 7c, Tc]
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [Qd]
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [6h]
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
ramones951: Show Cards ($0)
thecentaur: Show Cards ($0)
tkim8404: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
**Laughing at thecentaur**
Main pot $42060, Rake $0
Side pot #1 $127136, Rake $0
Side pot #2 $80804, Rake $0
Summary thecentaur: bet $77188, won $0, net $-77188
Summary tkim8404: bet $13620, won $42060, net $28440, HoleCards [Ts, Ad], HiHand [two pairs, aces and tens] [As, Ad, Ts, Tc, Qd], won $42060 from main pot
Summary ramones951: bet $161992, won $207940, net $45948, HoleCards [Ac, Kc], HiHand [a pair of aces] [As, Ac, Kc, Qd, Tc], won $127136 from side pot #1, won $80804 from side pot #2


Gets old trying to fight this software

Please think before you criticize this play

[pavyracer]

You won some hands when you were behind. It happens all the time. Maybe we should fix the software so that only the best hand pre-flop wins every hand. But wouldn't this make a boring game?

[TheCentaur]

Pavy this was not the usual "worse hand wins" or "A on the river beats pocket kings"

This was with 3 people left in the tourney, I knew the shortstack would be double dominated, I would end up huge chip leader or out in 2nd because that's what I put those two on (AK and Ax), and SBR punishes smart play again.

Sometimes it feels like you are playing against the software instead of players

[BIGDAY]

Unreal

[pavyracer]

I agree with you. The way I try to defend against it (which I shouldn't have to do) is fold good hands. But it is what it is. SBR is very silent about how the software works.

[Hankwins]

If i was playing poker software against the house, I'd say this shyt is rigged on every site i ever played but when you add other players to the mix it's just random and alot of luck involved . never shocked or feel bad about runner runner,etc.

[bruins35]

i lost with jj in small blind vs kk in big blind on 10106 board, about 0 percent chance that was a random deal

[VegasInsider]

What the fukk are you complaining about??? These guys both had over cards and you got beat. It's not like you had AA and got smashed by some guy holding 2/7 off

[TheCentaur]

What the fukk are you complaining about??? These guys both had over cards and you got beat. It's not like you had AA and got smashed by some guy holding 2/7 off

vegas it has everything to do with the situation and very little to do with the cards

I had to get beat by the AK who in turn had to get beat by the A10 for me to have a bad result

Would take too long to explain fully

[keyboarding]

So you believe the software made sure you didn't win the hand because:

1. It doesn't like you and has code written into it to make sure you get fukked.
2. It loves tkim8404 and ramones951 because they don't complain about it.
3. It wants the game to continue so it can continue not to make money off you since it's a free tournament.

Get a fukking grip, you clown.

God bless.

[TheCentaur]

So you believe the software made sure you didn't win the hand because:

1. It doesn't like you and has code written into it to make sure you get fukked.
2. It loves tkim8404 and ramones951 because they don't complain about it.
3. It wants the game to continue so it can continue not to make money off you since it's a free tournament.

Get a fukking grip, you clown.

God bless.

You don't have a good sense for humorous sarcasm.

Of course I know it isn't rigged against me, but I think you are failing to realize just how bad of a beat that was in the situation.

Also, JJ is gone. That's the way it is. Your avatar is just sad at this point

[Seaweed]

I was there, it was rigged. I went out in 78th

[keyboarding]

Of course I know it isn't rigged against me, but I think you are failing to realize just how bad of a beat that was in the situation.

It wasn't bad enough to start a thread about it.

I can't believe in 2013 people still actually complain about bad beats in poker. Now that's pathetic.

[ArunSh]

Is it possible that SBR could start a poll - having posters vote on whether anyone who starts one of these ridiculous threads whining about a bad beat gets banned for a certain amount of time or some such punishment? I have a feeling that I, and many others, would definitely vote yes on this - it really gets irritating to have to wade through this junk when trying to view quality threads every day. Personally I think the forums would be much better off if these types of threads were eliminated completely. After all, in a real poker forum, like 2+2, anyone who did this would get their deserved punishment quickly so why not here also?

[konck]

Be happy for the gifts they give you.....your not that good

[jackpot269]

You won some hands when you were behind. It happens all the time. Maybe we should fix the software so that only the best hand pre-flop wins every hand. But wouldn't this make a boring game?

Pavy Ive read your poker opionions before and I look at these things about the same way you do each time !! what i tell players on this subject is "oh your only playing with 2 cards" or "did you forget about those other 5 that can be used" granted going into the last card knowing you should win and the other guy hits the only card left in the deck that can beat you is hard to take sometimes but i get beat that way all the time!! most times with a lot better than 8 8

[MoneyLineDawg]

Anything can happen on one hand....yeah it sucks, but I guess be happy you got to 3rd place

[TheCentaur]

lot of mean drunks in here tonight

was just a very interesting situation that was magnified because of that point in the tourney and the stack sizes

[Seaweed]

centaur are you mad at me? i was only kidding

[TheCentaur]

centaur are you mad at me? i was only kidding

no

I just don't understand the hatred from some of the posters in here

The thread isn't about AA getting beat by AK or something it's about the strategy in that situation and how it backfired on me

I guess it's true though, people either don't want to hear about it or are happy it happened

[Mitchell88]

Is it possible that SBR could start a poll - having posters vote on whether anyone who starts one of these ridiculous threads whining about a bad beat gets banned for a certain amount of time or some such punishment? I have a feeling that I, and many others, would definitely vote yes on this - it really gets irritating to have to wade through this junk when trying to view quality threads every day. Personally I think the forums would be much better off if these types of threads were eliminated completely. After all, in a real poker forum, like 2+2, anyone who did this would get their deserved punishment quickly so why not here also?

then we would have to poll all of the stupid threads and there would be about 90% less threads, sbr doesnt want that

[mikejamm]

So you believe the software made sure you didn't win the hand because:

1. It doesn't like you and has code written into it to make sure you get fukked.
2. It loves tkim8404 and ramones951 because they don't complain about it.
3. It wants the game to continue so it can continue not to make money off you since it's a free tournament.

Get a fukking grip, you clown.

God bless.

Really! Guy places 3rd and he's still gotta have a bitch fit about it! Out of a 100 players, you got top 3! I'd say the software worked pretty well for your whiny ass! Thank sbr for the free tourney and stfu!

[Mitchell88]

Really! Guy places 3rd and he's still gotta have a bitch fit about it! Out of a 100 players, you got top 3! I'd say the software worked pretty well for your whiny ass! Thank sbr for the free tourney and stfu!

Pot meet Kettle

[daneblazer]

This was with 3 people left in the tourney, I knew the shortstack would be double dominated, I would end up huge chip leader or out in 2nd because that's what I put those two on (AK and Ax), and SBR punishes smart play again.

I get your sarcasm in the thread, but your logic is flawed because of the elimination factor. You have to give them a bigger range than "Ax" too. Once you do that, you're an underdog in the hand. If you were able to shove or raise, it's a different story, but usually you stand a good chance of moving up in the prize structure by folding and risking nothing instead of flipping and risking everything. What you risk in a flip isn't worth what you win. If you had this read in a vacuum, had the chip lead, or in a cash game then I suppose we could argue its the correct play, but given the dynamic a fold is probably the correct move.

[Emily_Haines]

I don't see what the point of crying over a hand is in a FREE poker tournament.

Good God man get a hold of yourself.

[TheCentaur]

I get your sarcasm in the thread, but your logic is flawed because of the elimination factor. You have to give them a bigger range than "Ax" too. Once you do that, you're an underdog in the hand. If you were able to shove or raise, it's a different story, but usually you stand a good chance of moving up in the prize structure by folding and risking nothing instead of flipping and risking everything. What you risk in a flip isn't worth what you win. If you had this read in a vacuum, had the chip lead, or in a cash game then I suppose we could argue its the correct play, but given the dynamic a fold is probably the correct move.

I understand dane, and I don't dispute the call was questionable.

Once the hole cards were shown it was a dream scenario, but then the case flop hits. I called knowing I had a good chance not winning the pot. The main reason I called was the same reason players limp against a shortstack all in on the bubble, increase the chance of him losing. I was already over a 2 to 1 chips dog to the leader but yes maybe it wasn't a good call.

The longshot isn't that I didn't win the hand, it's that A10 won the hand but AK still beat me to knock me out. If you try to think of boards where this happens there aren't too many.

[hanco21]

I don't see what the point of crying over a hand is in a FREE poker tournament.

Good God man get a hold of yourself.

[Robber]

Emily and mikejamm scolding the op

What a thread

[Mitchell88]

3 handed the shortstack pushes other guy reraises all in so I call with 88 knowing either I am good or at least have second place because the chip leader must have a great hand. Here's how it played out...

Hand ID 3026646
$0 + $0 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 23:36:30 23/03/2013 ET
Table 'Table 42871', 10 seats max, Real money Seat 7 is the button. Small Blind $4000, Big Blind $8000 Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
Seat 6 (playing) : thecentaur, amount $77588, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 7 (playing) : tkim8404, amount $14020, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 10 (playing) : ramones951, amount $158392, amount bet $0, penalty (None) ramones951: Small Blind ($4000)
thecentaur: Big Blind ($8000)
**Calculating how to fuk thecentaur**
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to thecentaur: [8h, 8d]
tkim8404: Raise ($13620)
ramones951: Raise ($157992)
thecentaur: Call [btn] ($69188)
thecentaur: Show Cards ($0)
tkim8404: Show Cards ($0)
ramones951: Show Cards ($0)
**Calculating typical dramatic bs flop**
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [As, 7c, Tc]
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [Qd]
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [6h]
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
ramones951: Show Cards ($0)
thecentaur: Show Cards ($0)
tkim8404: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
**Laughing at thecentaur**
Main pot $42060, Rake $0
Side pot #1 $127136, Rake $0
Side pot #2 $80804, Rake $0
Summary thecentaur: bet $77188, won $0, net $-77188
Summary tkim8404: bet $13620, won $42060, net $28440, HoleCards [Ts, Ad], HiHand [two pairs, aces and tens] [As, Ad, Ts, Tc, Qd], won $42060 from main pot
Summary ramones951: bet $161992, won $207940, net $45948, HoleCards [Ac, Kc], HiHand [a pair of aces] [As, Ac, Kc, Qd, Tc], won $127136 from side pot #1, won $80804 from side pot #2


Gets old trying to fight this software

Please think before you criticize this play

if u ever bitch again with what you just caught seriously you are the biggest whiner ever, you just got pocket pairs and caught everything so STFU

[hockey216]

howdy folks

[dynamite140]

I don't see what the point of crying over a hand is in a FREE poker tournament.

Good God man get a hold of yourself.

sbr points means a lot to centaur. Hes 19 and needs those points. Otherwise he whines

[Itsamazing777]

Mabye you should ask yourself why you went all in against two people pre flop with pocket 8s......

[Triple_D_Bet]

sbr points means a lot to centaur. Hes 19 and needs those points. Otherwise he whines

Points aren't meaningless, just not as menaingful as they used to be. Aside from their not-inconsequential monetary value, they're a way of keeping score for most people. Just because you don't care about your "score" doesn't make it ridiculous for others to do so

[leetreaper]

3 handed the shortstack pushes other guy reraises all in so I call with 88 knowing either I am good or at least have second place because the chip leader must have a great hand. Here's how it played out...

Hand ID 3026646
$0 + $0 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 23:36:30 23/03/2013 ET
Table 'Table 42871', 10 seats max, Real money Seat 7 is the button. Small Blind $4000, Big Blind $8000 Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
Seat 6 (playing) : thecentaur, amount $77588, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 7 (playing) : tkim8404, amount $14020, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 10 (playing) : ramones951, amount $158392, amount bet $0, penalty (None) ramones951: Small Blind ($4000)
thecentaur: Big Blind ($8000)
**Calculating how to fuk thecentaur**
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to thecentaur: [8h, 8d]
tkim8404: Raise ($13620)
ramones951: Raise ($157992)
thecentaur: Call [btn] ($69188)
thecentaur: Show Cards ($0)
tkim8404: Show Cards ($0)
ramones951: Show Cards ($0)
**Calculating typical dramatic bs flop**
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [As, 7c, Tc]
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [Qd]
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [6h]
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
ramones951: Show Cards ($0)
thecentaur: Show Cards ($0)
tkim8404: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
**Laughing at thecentaur**
Main pot $42060, Rake $0
Side pot #1 $127136, Rake $0
Side pot #2 $80804, Rake $0
Summary thecentaur: bet $77188, won $0, net $-77188
Summary tkim8404: bet $13620, won $42060, net $28440, HoleCards [Ts, Ad], HiHand [two pairs, aces and tens] [As, Ad, Ts, Tc, Qd], won $42060 from main pot
Summary ramones951: bet $161992, won $207940, net $45948, HoleCards [Ac, Kc], HiHand [a pair of aces] [As, Ac, Kc, Qd, Tc], won $127136 from side pot #1, won $80804 from side pot #2


Gets old trying to fight this software

Please think before you criticize this play

God i hate retards...

[thetrinity]

this is definitely not a fold with less then 10 big blinds left.

the button could literally have the whole deck almost.

the big stack could have a pretty wide range as well to isolate against a very short all in 3 handed, not nearly what his range would be on an open shove but still a fairly wide range.

centaur has a medium pair which is a monster at this point, if he had an equal stack to the small blind you could argue a fold but not this shallow.

whining about this is ridiculous though, everyone did what they were supposed to, and a whole 600 poker points were on the line.