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  • The Giant
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-21-12
    • 21480

    #1
    Sickening...
    I was playing some 2/4 on Bookmaker earlier.

    Bought in for $400, and had my stack up to about $500.

    I'm in the small blind with jacks, and there is a raise in front of me. I reraise and make it $40 to go. The big blind comes over the top of me and makes it $84. The initial raiser folds, and after some deliberation (I think you can make an argument for re-raising, calling, or folding) I decide to make the call.

    On a sidenote, this is a player I know nothing about.

    Anyway, the flop comes 10-6-5. Rainbow board.

    I checked it to him and he bet $75. I'm in a pretty tough spot here, but decide to go for it. I re-raised him to $300, leaving only about $100 behind. Clearly I'm committed.

    He moves all in. I call.

    He flips over A4 suited.

    He got runner runner and made a flush and beat me.

    How does this happen? What is he doing? I just sat there dumbfounded.
  • tatddy
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-02-10
    • 10779

    #2
    At least it was cash and not Sbr points. Easy to reload.
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    • The Giant
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-21-12
      • 21480

      #3
      Originally posted by tatddy
      At least it was cash and not Sbr points. Easy to reload.
      Reported.
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      • Seaweed
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 01-19-12
        • 26316

        #4
        This is why nobody should play poker. Even when you play it right, you lose. It is a game that will kill you in the long run. Stay away and stick to sports. Stupid people usually lose in sports.
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        • The Giant
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-21-12
          • 21480

          #5
          Originally posted by Seaweed
          This is why nobody should play poker. Even when you play it right, you lose. It is a game that will kill you in the long run. Stay away and stick to sports. Stupid people usually lose in sports.
          Sage advice from one of the world's greatest sports handicappers.

          Thank you, Seaweed. I knew you would put me on the right path.
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          • tatddy
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-02-10
            • 10779

            #6
            Originally posted by The Giant
            Reported.
            How can an Sbr bot report an honest small timer?

            Had a dream. Blind vs blind. I picked up KQ in small blind. Was folded to me. I limped. Bully in big blind raised 4X bb. I called. Flop was KK9. And I was drawing dead to 4 outs.

            Scary.
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            • The Giant
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-21-12
              • 21480

              #7
              Originally posted by tatddy
              How can an Sbr bot report an honest small timer?

              Had a dream. Blind vs blind. I picked up KQ in small blind. Was folded to me. I limped. Bully in big blind raised 4X bb. I called. Flop was KK9. And I was drawing dead to 4 outs.

              Scary.
              Our hand was a cooler. Not at one point was I ever behind.

              The carnage that was levied upon me today was one of the most insane poker decisions in the history of the green glorious felt.

              A little compassion would be nice.
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              • tatddy
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-02-10
                • 10779

                #8
                Sorry pal. Wanna make out?
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                • ballahollic2
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-30-10
                  • 986

                  #9
                  I know this isn't a poker discussion thread but I personally like raising or folding more there pre. Don't love the flop play either, but somehow the way u played it got all the money in which it wouldn't have with other routes so I guess thats all u can ask for.
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                  • The Giant
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-21-12
                    • 21480

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tatddy
                    Sorry pal. Wanna make out?
                    I'm clearly one of the most masculine men here, and thus will decline the make out session. A little hand action would be nice though.

                    Originally posted by ballahollic2
                    I know this isn't a poker discussion thread but I personally like raising or folding more there pre. Don't love the flop play either, but somehow the way u played it got all the money in which it wouldn't have with other routes so I guess thats all u can ask for.
                    It was meant to be a discussion thread until tatddy decided to derail it with his bemoaning over losing points.

                    Anyway, I probably did play it poorly from the start.....but like you said, it turned out as I would have wanted, just got horrible results.
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                    • yahoonino
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-10-07
                      • 2651

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Seaweed
                      This is why nobody should play poker. Even when you play it right, you lose. It is a game that will kill you in the long run. Stay away and stick to sports. Stupid people usually lose in sports.
                      that true,,,if you not lucky ,, you can trow your skill out the window,,
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                      • mikejamm
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-24-09
                        • 11045

                        #12
                        Rigggggged!!!!
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                        • 4uk4life
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-09-10
                          • 3302

                          #13
                          Sounds like an SBR player
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                          • daneblazer
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 09-14-08
                            • 27861

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ballahollic2
                            I know this isn't a poker discussion thread but I personally like raising or folding more there pre. Don't love the flop play either, but somehow the way u played it got all the money in which it wouldn't have with other routes so I guess thats all u can ask for.
                            Yeah the 4bet was awful and the 5 bet wouldn't be much better. That's the kind of stuff you do with a few thousands of hands of history not against an unknown with just a few. You're basically going to be folding out everything you can possibly beat then play for stacks.
                            ...but yeah...A4...wow
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                            • tatddy
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-02-10
                              • 10779

                              #15
                              Real question is why didn't you reload and felt this clown?
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                              • TheCentaur
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 06-28-11
                                • 8108

                                #16
                                I don't play cash games online anymore because of this type of stuff. I don't understand the people who are criticizing your play here, you had way the best of it with your money in and another head scratching play by some player gets rewarded. No sane person does that with A4 and no one that stupid has 400 to play with in a cash game, it doesn't add up, so I would just avoid the online cash games
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                                • Jayvegas420
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 03-09-11
                                  • 28213

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by tatddy
                                  Real question is why didn't you reload and felt this clown?
                                  Because he wouldda been tapped in a half an hour?
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                                  • The Giant
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-21-12
                                    • 21480

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by tatddy
                                    Real question is why didn't you reload and felt this clown?
                                    I did reload, but he didn't stick around long.

                                    Originally posted by TheCentaur
                                    I don't play cash games online anymore because of this type of stuff. I don't understand the people who are criticizing your play here, you had way the best of it with your money in and another head scratching play by some player gets rewarded. No sane person does that with A4 and no one that stupid has 400 to play with in a cash game, it doesn't add up, so I would just avoid the online cash games
                                    I actually like playing on their site. I've played on plenty, Full Tilt, Poker Stars, Merge network, and the games on Bookmaker and all their adjoining skins are pretty soft in comparison. The problem is they just don't get much traffic.
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                                    • imadegen
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-30-11
                                      • 1261

                                      #19
                                      5 bet shove pre.
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                                      • TheCentaur
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-28-11
                                        • 8108

                                        #20
                                        Giant goes out with JJ

                                        Giant maybe just fold it for awhile
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                                        • OMGRandyJackson
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-07-10
                                          • 1680

                                          #21
                                          What did you think he had pre flop? With JJ there I think your only real options are shove or fold with your chip stack. JJ is too weak to just call a 2nd re-raise. I also think (especially since you no nothing of this player), that you should have made a move on the flop, instead of checking.
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                                          • daneblazer
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 09-14-08
                                            • 27861

                                            #22
                                            Shoving there is terrible. This hand is an outlier example so you can't look at it, see he has A4, and be results oriented and think its the norm. Versus an unknown about 75-80% of the time you're looking at QQ-AA there, 15-20% of the time you're looking at AK AQ JJ TT, and 5% you're against some other hand. A shove usually scares nearly everything away that you beat. You get some hand history against the guy and then you can justify shoving. Right now Fold > everything else.
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                                            • The Giant
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-21-12
                                              • 21480

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by TheCentaur
                                              Giant goes out with JJ

                                              Giant maybe just fold it for awhile
                                              All I do is get it in good, Centaur. You know this.

                                              Originally posted by OMGRandyJackson
                                              What did you think he had pre flop? With JJ there I think your only real options are shove or fold with your chip stack. JJ is too weak to just call a 2nd re-raise. I also think (especially since you no nothing of this player), that you should have made a move on the flop, instead of checking.
                                              We both had over 125 big blinds, I didn't want to shove it pre-flop. In hindsight, I wish I would have.

                                              Post-flop it wouldn't have mattered, he wasn't folding.
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                                              • BeerDog99
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-22-10
                                                • 4894

                                                #24
                                                If the guy called the re-raise on the flop there, I would hazard a guess he would have called a shove pre-flop and definitely would have called on the turn also. IMHO, he saw an Ace and thought he was golden any way you look at it.
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                                                • Louisvillekid1
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-17-07
                                                  • 52143

                                                  #25
                                                  Tough beat, but most of the time you're opponent is going to so who 10/10, qq, kk, or aa in that situation especially after calling you're raise o the flop.

                                                  BOL going forward...
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