Poker Hand Review

**thetrinity** · 12-20-12, 11:24 AM

ya get it in if he got 88 99 so be it. utg probably doesnt have 88 or 99, if this was 6 handed, i would be more likely to think he could, like you said likely an overpair. small blind i guess shows up with 88 or 99 and thats why youre questioning this, but i would have stuck it in, still too many other hands he could have in that spot.

**boscokid** · 12-20-12, 12:23 PM

my first thought is you have been playing too long to say re-raise when you mean raise

second thought, you can't seriously be claiming you considered laying this down?

third thought, you should've just posted the results so all the penny-ante retards on SBR can claim they would have folded after calculating "the odds"

**thetrinity** · 12-20-12, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by boscokid

my first thought is you have been playing too long to say re-raise when you mean raise

second thought, you can't seriously be claiming you considered laying this down?

third thought, you should've just posted the results so all the penny-ante retards on SBR can claim they would have folded after calculating "the odds"

hes probably right about this sad but true

**RudyRuetigger** · 12-20-12, 12:55 PM

1. reshove

2. lose

3. ???

4. wonder what utg proper play shouldve been

**daneblazer** · 12-20-12, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by boscokid

my first thought is you have been playing too long to say re-raise when you mean raise

second thought, you can't seriously be claiming you considered laying this down?

third thought, you should've just posted the results so all the penny-ante retards on SBR can claim they would have folded after calculating "the odds"

1.

It was early.

2. What is a tag with a 15/9 line going to have there where he would call a raise in the SB then on the flop check/call call my raise of the tight UTG raiser's flop bet?

...reading back on it I guess I did leave out the part where he check/called the flop. oh well, it was implied

**thetrinity** · 12-20-12, 08:44 PM

sounds like you are overthinkin this one dane no one lays down a set there ever especially at 50nl

**Optional** · 12-20-12, 09:16 PM

Small blind had AhKh?

**thetrinity** · 12-20-12, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Small blind had AhKh?

amongst other possibilities.

**RudyRuetigger** · 12-20-12, 10:30 PM

sb could literally have 30 hands here

**BiTeMe UsAdOj** · 12-20-12, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by thetrinity

sounds like you are overthinkin this one dane no one lays down a set there ever especially at 50nl

this

**dumbmoney** · 12-21-12, 09:12 AM

IMO, I think you played it right. My guess is SB has a draw and UTG has an overpair. Possible one of them has a set over you, but you can't really get away from that. I think there are too many draws with that board to play it any slower. The fact that you are questioning it means you probably lost the hand, but that doesn't mean that you played it wrong.

**dumbmoney** · 12-21-12, 09:20 AM

I guess I was assuming you called there. I think you pretty much have to with a set, even if its bottom set, with no str8 or flush on the board yet.

**jbart28** · 12-21-12, 09:21 AM

Over pair and any combo draw are what you are up against. Of course, you have to calculate your equity based on being totally pwned with set over set as well. Assign the ranges and of course you are still going broke. You started the hand 22 BB deep? Is it 1/2? Is .50/1? Set mining here was fine....but guess what, when you flop your set you are supposed to go broke here.

Results oriented I guess or you wouldnt be posting-

**daneblazer** · 12-21-12, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by jbart28

Is it 1/2? Is .50/1? Set mining here was fine....but guess what, when you flop your set you are supposed to go broke here.

Results oriented I guess or you wouldnt be posting-

50NL so .25/.50...will write the outcome in a bit

**jbart28** · 12-21-12, 09:37 AM

Cool. In the meantime, the stock market is about to go broke lol

**daneblazer** · 12-21-12, 09:47 AM

Probably going to surprise some with this response, but I folded. SB had 88 and UTG had KK but I feel like a 75 year old nit man folding there.

The thing that made me concerned is with the way the SB played the hand and that he isn't a station. If he's a station the hand is easier. If he's a 15/9 14/8 type in the SB his range is probably tighter there? He's probably calling with Ax suited hands and AQ AKos KQs and also set mining. He's probably 3 betting with JJ+ PF. I'm also thinking he's aware enough to give a little credit to a UTG raiser who is playing tight. If he's paying attention, he's probably putting UTG on an overpair or at least AK. The way I saw it, the check/call out of the SB from him after I raised the UTG on the flop is polarizing and either shows significant strength or a draw. I guess the question is could he be calling PF with something like Axs, JT, 89, 67 and check/call a big raise with it on the flop? I'm just trying to think of what else he could have there where he would take that line outside of a set.

I don't think it really matters if its 50Nl. In fact, if this is 1/2 live the play is an easy reshove imo because I'd likely have less information. Am I overthinking this and being too much of a nit-bag here?
Thank you for the responses.

**daneblazer** · 12-21-12, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by jbart28

Cool. In the meantime, the stock market is about to go broke lol

End of the world day

**moses millsap** · 12-23-12, 07:26 PM

Know you made correct laydown per the results of this particular hand, but think it is a bad laydown. Only 6 combos of 88 and 99 and plenty of other hands he may call out of the SB with, even though he's 15/9. Like you said, Ax hearts, JT, QhTh along with other suited hearts. Also relevant is which two cards on the flop were hearts. 9h8s4h leaves the door open for several more possible hands in his range, i.e. Th8h, 8h7h, etc. No idea how he plays postflop and that's huge. He's calling ~20% of his stack ($13 of his remaining $60) on the flop getting a little worse than 2:1 ($13 to call for a pot that stands at $24 sans the rake), would he do that with a combo draw or would he likely 3bet your flop raise of $13? If I raise this flop as you did, I stack off against the UTG shove and reload.

**thetrinity** · 12-24-12, 12:11 AM

kinda agree with moses, actually had a similar type hand the other day at a home game i heard about secondhand.

my friend was in small blind with 57 clubs on a double straddle at 1/2 game, after a few limps he calls as do the big blind and straddle. the double straddle then makes it 15 total (pretty stupid IMO) everyone calls.

pot roughly a little over 100 dollars (what he told me) flops king diamonds 6 spades 8 spades, 3 checks opener bets 17 gets 1 call and my friend calls in the small blind.

now around 150-160 on turn, which is 9 of diamonds he checks guy bets 100 bad lady player sticks in 70 dollars (all in for what she has in front of her) he has about 140 left, this is where it gets interesting, they have some goofy rule where you can pull out money on the hand or declare yourself all in for what you have in front of you, he says he had 140 in front of him and about 300 in his pocket. the player who bet 100 has another couple hundred in front of him on the table and not sure how much in his pocket, anyways my friend goes all in for the 140 because it was early in the session and he didnt want to go broke if he got sucked out on (LOL) and guy who bet 100 has 710 somehow anyways and hes behind, kinda reminds me of this hand but at least its 3rd nuts and a set is somewhat believable from the small blind.