Full tilt poker is back

[RawBillyIce]

but only play tables for USA players


now why would they do this? huh? what is there strategy?


they must be trying to creep back into the us market ..why else would they even open the site for fun? nobody does anything for free

are they going to try to do like Zynga and sell credit packages like on facebook


what a joke!

[eberetta1]

If they are like Pokerstars home games, US players play free and then a forum sends them amazon gift cards for winning tournaments.

[Jeffie]

is there a way to check my poker balance? when i downloaded the play version it doesnt show how much i had.

[kmc28]

pokerstars now owns full tilt poker. you can play for play money on pokerstars as well.

is there a way to check my poker balance? when i downloaded the play version it doesnt show how much i had.

I was able to get a player account history from them. I just had to send a request for it.

[RawBillyIce]

I had a free roll ticket left in my act

...amazon card better then nothing

[RawBillyIce]

Your balance was ganked by Feds. What a nice little heist for them

U can petition the DOJ. GL

[kmc28]

Your balance was ganked by Feds. What a nice little heist for them

U can petition the DOJ. GL

lol i know where my balance is. DOJ supposedly is hiring claims administrators to start evaluating claims & processing payments of the FTP balances in January 2013 ( source ). We'll see if that actually happens though.

[RawBillyIce]

I would def not wait to start the process. Being the former mortgage loan officer, I would be doing some screaming and yelling over the phone along the way..lol

It's your money and it's been stolen... you don't care about excuses (when,where, how or why) u just want your money back (underfuckingstadabley)

I would raise t toal cane and also demand interst. you blank me...you blank yourself!!! that's the way its got to be (funny a drug dealer told me that like 15yrs ago and I never forgot it) use it all them time ... check this out kmc they have a chx wing joint down the street from my house ..I get wings damn near once a week ,etc. they have a few days ago they messed up our order for the 3 times since they opened(ill save u the details)... this time we ordered 25 wings (5 sets of 5) ..I get home and not only is there no celrey in the box...but they shorted me 5 wings ...but the way it has to be ..( u blank me u blank yourself) if u dont care...guess what...I do !!!

long story short... they are replacing the order 0f 25 wings. I will prob pick up this Sunday around gametime

just an illustration here but you have to demand accountability. alwyays remember...."We teach people how to treat us!"

a little ventration there..lol


peace!

[kmc28]

what i really don't understand is why they didn't just let pokerstars repay the players from full tilt poker now that they own the site. pokerstars paid out my balance within like a week or two after black friday. they just direct deposited it back into my bank account that i used to deposit onto the site to begin with.

[TheWinner55]

bodog recently called me, gave me $260 to play around with saying they are reactive and everything is fine and dandy. Screwed around with the free cash they gave me in the casino, played slots. Got it up to $1,000 and cashed out (even though there was rollover [20x]) and it worked just fine. $1,000 richer for doing nothing.

[RawBillyIce]

Nice! They gave me free $50. I torched though

And not bodog but bovada

[PaperTrail07]

Bog a big .45 cents in bovada....last they will get outta me

[RawBillyIce]

Lol. Put the 0.45 on a 99/1 horse to win!

[jetsjets1028]

oh wow back already?

[TheWinner55]

Lol, yeah I couldn't believe it when I noticed they missed the rollover. It was like happy birthday to me! hahahaha

[RawBillyIce]

yea...they don't normally miss things like that. Maybe u cleared it or something

[TheWinner55]

There's no way I cleared $260 with 20x rollover lol. I played $5 slots for about.....20 minutes, that's it lol.
I honestly think they missed it. xD

[RawBillyIce]

cool

[buyacka1]

they opened it because of pokerstars catering to european players not for benefit of americans and because pokerstars wanted the rush program tilt has along with descent software full tilt has.

[RawBillyIce]

I read some messed up stuff that seemed accurate and definitly co exist with my feelings.

About online poker being semi-rigged built into the software. Basically in a nutshell being the winning players subtly get their difficulty level increased and losing players get it decreased ... thus it evens out. If the company takes a $100 deposit from Joe Blow and Joe wins 1st in a $50 tourney at $7500 .. then Joe cash's out asap they have to write that check. On the flip if Joe wins 300 on the cash table and turns around a day later and magically gets his pocket aces cracked and shuffles that 200 to jay blow and jay does the same thing etc etc

the little joe and jay blows end up reloading and PS or FT con't's to suck in that steady stream of revenue.

The truth is I have always known this at my core just wanted so desperatley not to believe it!

I bet many others have had these feelings too. i.e. how many times have we been deep in tourneys and watch the small stack get sucked out on via turn and river. and not just this but what do any of us really know about the software (besides the fact that all is spun from a Random Number Generator) the programs are as simple as this If A = B and B <= G then Z Only God knows what the phuck B and G stand for

I shall leave with this: Phuck me once;
shame on you
Phuck me twice;
shame on me!

Have a great day

[TheWinner55]

Yeah, I think just about everyone has that feeling. It's so unbelievably common to see people (good players) deep in a tourny, get a good hand, make a push and get called by a big stack just trying to knock people out win with a 2-7. But nonetheless, it is what it is and we will continue to play if our hearts desire so play on everyone!

[RawBillyIce]

@TheWinner55 u know I agree with u 100% and that is what sucks so bad

we do con 't to play and just the sheer thought of the fact that we are just setting ourselves up for a bb down the road...simply because of what I call the computer chip rig

I too have seen it too many times and the thing is (if u watch close) is that our minds have become acclamated to it in a way that you will perk up right before it happens because your mind has picked up on the behavior. I've seen it so blatenley obvious that 4+ people will be in the hand ..deep like u said in a tourney and the mathematical/optimum outcome is the way the chip reads it and you simply watch that turn and river come ...again in a way that is so obvious it is like someone slaps your mom right in front of you and denies it. even your mom denies it and says it didn't happen..lol don't mean to talk crazy and go off into left field but I could vent about it for days. I mean the simple fact is ...for the situated player.. we don't want to hustle off to a live game in the city. we would much rather sit at our computer, at out leisure and play and quit playing immediatley by clicking off. I mean ...online poker is the shit!!!

last thing (which is my theory and even though I con't to play ..I'm sticking to it.) i.e. hypothetically illustrating here... if a player with a $50 balance plays in a few tourneys ...and wins 1st or second place in say a $11 tourney...(cashes $1400-1800) lets say. Then he says ..."Hot damn!" and jumps on the $2/$4 or even the $5/$10 for that matter and wins to fatties (pots) in a row ... he now has $2900 BankRoll(lets say) He then (very wisely) puts in a request for $2500 cash out. After all ...this will pay his mortgage, car payment and take his wife out to a very nice restaurant ,etc and still have $400 in his account. What a sweet hit ..ya know?

Reality of this scenario is that (we will use FullTilt as an example here...since they are so phucking loved...lol NOT!!) .. the site cuts a check (drawn off BkofAma, or the like) and the check is good of course...and we pay mtg, car payment and go get a steak... but FT's Net Worth just went down $2500. Even if it is to know real loss to them(since they supposivley only make money off the rake) but it is still $2500 less money then they had( u know when FT got popped and labled ponzi scheme cuz they had 10% of what they should have had) it is totally strategic. They knew via Actuaries, etc. what the ratio(math) of their players putting in cash out requests would be (...prob down to the freaking penny...math stats don't lie!)

so here is their deviant solution... say our player wins $1400-$1800 cashing 1st or second in that tourney...then they go up to the nose bleeds (that they can now afford thx to 1st or second place win in the tourney) and our player quickly gets dealt pocket kings (or rockets just to make sure they get your money) your pushing 100% of the time...and low in behold ... another player(who we find out after the hand had pocket KK or JJ or QQ or whatever KK is a good ex here) catches that 3rd king...str8 or flush by the river and instead of u hitting that 1st fatty(pot) it goes the other way(keep in mind there is no manual buttons being hit here by employees) it is simply built into the program or later added one, a difficulty level is how I like to envision it, so very simply if your ROI for the week, day or last 5mins for that matter is sky high the computer program (which is programmed like if a or b > then 50 then a and/or b -1 ) I think u follow me here. Now our hero player (who mind u just won 1400-1800 in that tourney) just lost a $475 pot...quickly jumps off the 2/4 or 5/10 and says PPFHUCKKK!!! does he cash out? now this is where the math comes in again (number theory,etc) basically RISK MNG'T using standard deviation and the bell curve ..what is it 65/95/99.7 I think again HERO or lets say the last 100 hero's who had the same (mathematically at least) situation/scenario the math suggests 88-92% do not cash out. and maybe 70-80% (after blowing off steam and smoking a ciggarette,etc) do exactly what the site hopes they will do and jump right the phuck back into the action. so hard to be satisfied with $1100 when we just had $1575 human nature (there went the car payment and maybe the steak dinner)

I'm done venting but this is my theory that as long as the site can keep shuffleing the money around via the unseen, invisible difficulty level ...then their site can achieve optimum performance and it's all good.

That is until the DOJ serves them one of their bad beats so what do u think?