How is SBR any better than The RX?

[Monte]

He was away last week.

Ok, you also make a difference Shari. Not just saying cos you are a girl.

[mathdotcom]

Why do you always get so douchey and degrading with your comments, especially when the last time I checked your name wasn't Ray hence my post not being directed at you? I didn't ask for your opinion but thanks? anyway.

It comes from the arrogance of your original post that suggests posters are all hothead lunatics that on the drop of a hat want books downgraded to F, but that SBR is incredibly wise. I don't mind this coming from Walker since he actually knows what's going on, but it's kind of ridiculous coming from someone that doesn't have a clue about the industry but pretends to because she's employed to scan the board for naughty language.

I apologize for interrupting your private discussion with ray. I had no idea it was so rude to interrupt such conversations taking place in the middle of a public forum.

[shari91]

It comes from the arrogance of your original post that suggests posters are all hothead lunatics that on the drop of a hat want books downgraded to F, but that SBR is incredibly wise. I don't mind this coming from Walker since he actually knows what's going on, but it's kind of ridiculous coming from someone that doesn't have a clue about the industry but pretends to because she's employed to scan the board for naughty language.

I apologize for interrupting your private discussion with ray. I had no idea it was so rude to interrupt such conversations taking place in the middle of a public forum.

I was going to question the quality of education you received as it seems your reading comprehension is a bit lacking but since you're in Ontario it would be quite hypocritical for me to do so. However if you're having trouble deciphering this sentence let me know and I'll do my best to break it down for you: "Just curious how you would handle it as you're my friend and I respect your opinion... no hidden meaning behind my post."

Maybe if I add a few of these it will help?

[mathdotcom]

That part of your post is irrelevant. I was addressing your holier than thou attitude displayed in your 5D remarks.

As for the part about hidden meaning, you're right, I have no idea what that even means. Hidden meaning behind what part of your post?

Typical female obfuscation

[CoachJB]

TheRX has been a joke since AT LEAST 2008, before that they were solid.

RX is nothing compared to SBR

Please give reasons why.

[shari91]

That part of your post is irrelevant. I was addressing your holier than thou attitude displayed in your 5D remarks.

As for the part about hidden meaning, you're right, I have no idea what that even means. Hidden meaning behind what part of your post?

Typical female obfuscation

Should I say you're being a typical male who is being deliberately obtuse and pompous? Nah, that'd be sexist. You don't have any idea what I was talking about yet you felt the need to nastily address my comment explicitly directed to someone else anyway. Ray understood what I meant by that post and he answered it genuinely as he always does when I ask him for his opinion. Again - there's a reason I specifically asked him the question and didn't just post it without quoting anyone. GL with your bets today and I hope you get your cash soon. It's not a great feeling just watching anyone sweat payouts regardless of what book it is so I can only imagine how much it sucks being one of those experiencing it firsthand.

[CoachJB]

was rx the site that was sponser by ezystreet and sbr bashed because they didnt pay cory and they were angry at because they were just protecting their sponser? Sounds like they are getting a taste of their own medicine now,
This was how wsex fell and if i remember correctly sbr backed them a while too.

My thoughts exactly. They took the "holier than thow" approach in this situation and made the rx look really, really bad. ******* hypocrites, you think they would work with the guys at the rx instead of bad mouthing them. Unprofessional in every sense of the word.

[mathdotcom]

Should I say you're being a typical male who is being deliberately obtuse and pompous? Nah, that'd be sexist. You don't have any idea what I was talking about yet you felt the need to nastily address my comment explicitly directed to someone else anyway. Ray understood what I meant by that post and he answered it genuinely as he always does when I ask him for his opinion. Again - there's a reason I specifically asked him the question and didn't just post it without quoting anyone. GL with your bets today and I hope you get your cash soon. It's not a great feeling just watching anyone sweat payouts regardless of what book it is so I can only imagine how much it sucks being one of those experiencing it firsthand.

I'm not sweating it. My anger is directed towards SBR not BOL.

It's a public forum and you complain that I comment on it?? What's even funnier is you're a representative of a website that rates sportsbooks and you make comments about the rating of a sportsbook on a website that rates sportsbooks .... but don't expect anyone to reply. If your last sentence was "raydog, what'd you have for dinner?", I am still going to comment on the 5D preface.

[acl123]

Mathy give me a dollar pal.

[milwaukee mike]

so now we have an "official sbr bash thread" and an "official bash sbr thread"

[acl123]

Thanks Mathy

[milwaukee mike]

and as for my personal (and perhaps unwanted) input, sbr has been very helpful in getting me cash more than a couple times, even before i was a member of the forum.
even years later with betroyal, sbr/chester got me $3800 that dated back 3-4 years without any documentation or evidence on my part

sbr was the only one rating betonsports a d- while everyone else had them top tier before they no paid.
so let's be a bit reasonable here, sbr has always and will always be a better resource than eog/rx/etc. are they perfect, no, but in the absence of perfection we look for the next best thing.

[shari91]

I'm not sweating it. My anger is directed towards SBR not BOL.

It's a public forum and you complain that I comment on it?? What's even funnier is you're a representative of a website that rates sportsbooks and you make comments about the rating of a sportsbook on a website that rates sportsbooks .... but don't expect anyone to reply. If your last sentence was "raydog, what'd you have for dinner?", I am still going to comment on the 5D preface.

I have no problem with you replying to my question to Ray. It's the fact that you were unnecessarily disparaging when you weren't even aware of the context in which I asked it. I was being genuine with my question and he knew that. The 5Dimes reference was because he was one of the most vocal in telling people to calm down when they were asking for 5Dimes to be downgraded and I wanted his input as to how he'd handle this situation minus the poker issues. He knew what I was referring to and he explained where he saw the difference in the two scenarios. That's all I was looking for as I trust his opinion. Nothing more than that.

[mathdotcom]

OK Shari
You have the last word

[poloyol]

Pinnacle and Bookmaker are on a numbers scale 90 and above

Betonline is like 62 or so

Its obvious they have issues and not correcting them

I will make more vids exposing them unless guys paid

Bookmaker and Cris should not be categorized on the 90 and above scale ( A+)

[jjgold]

I have just downgraded betonline to a D

Player has not been paid

[Br0nxer]

I have just downgraded betonline to a D

Player has not been paid

Coach is my money safe at 5dimes??

[SBR_John]

I'd say way better. A thread like this wouldn't survive 6 minutes there. We allow our guys to create a cause and then let them play it out. It's good clean fun and good for business.

Plus we have better mods.

[jjgold]

Shari stay out of this as it is out of your league

SBR much better than any forum

Hopefully sbr working around the clock to get the guys paid

[ronald]

Once again Matty proves himself as the best thread starter in forum history. A multitude of replies!

If there were any viable forums that could compete with SBR, Matty would be the top free agent. Yes, even ahead of jjgold.

Shari, I still can't believe you think a 3-3 narrow airplane cabin configuration is First Class. Your credibility is damaged as a result of such a silly assertion.

[shari91]

Shari stay out of this as it is out of your league

SBR much better than any forum

Hopefully sbr working around the clock to get the guys paid

I'm not in it... that's the whole point I tried to explain to you about the difference between a Mod and an Admin! I have people asking me off the forum what I think about BOL all wknd and I keep saying I'm watching this as it unfolds just like any other poster. That's why I asked Ray his opinion. He's not always SBR's biggest supporter at times but he's always honest with me and I know he's watching it all. Sometimes what he says is pro SBR and sometimes it's not. Nothing wrong with that.

[minet123]

Before you send money to a third world country
for a service that falls into the "grey" area of legality
ask yourself this question
why years after the fall of the "mean old despot",that was hand picked by the US state Dept many years before,
are they still using the USD as the official currency
this a country Known from the mid 1970's on as a money laundering haven
and yet they still keep the USD as the official currency
let review the other offshore US facing sports book havens
Costa Rica has the Colon
Curacao has the guilder(euro)
even our Mohawk friends In the great white north have a currency, evidently the new $100 smell like maple syrup
and yet a small little country with a hole in the middle of it and pretty much uninhabitable south of that hole
still keeps the USD as it's folding money
and you want to send your USD there
good luck

[billysink]

Before you send money to a third world country
for a service that falls into the "grey" area of legality
ask yourself this question
why years after the fall of the "mean old despot",that was hand picked by the US state Dept many years before,
are they still using the USD as the official currency
this a country Known from the mid 1970's on as a money laundering haven
and yet they still keep the USD as the official currency
let review the other offshore US facing sports book havens
Costa Rica has the Colon
Curacao has the guilder(euro)
even our Mohawk friends In the great white north have a currency, evidently the new $100 smell like maple syrup
and yet a small little country with a hole in the middle of it and pretty much uninhabitable south of that hole
still keeps the USD as it's folding money
and you want to send your USD there
good luck

Tough to walk through an airport on the way back into the USA with a suitcase loaded with 583,000 dollars worth of colons.

[billysink]

So who is heading to Panama to fix this shit.

[raydog]

so now we have an "official sbr bash thread" and an "official bash sbr thread"

...

[acl123]

Walker is good peoples

[durito]

I don't mind this coming from Walker since he actually knows what's going on, ll

you must be joking

[billysink]

Maybe these shit rated books should have figured out that trying to backdoor the U.S. market was not such a good idea. If you can't pay the whales unless it is with a suitcase full of fukkin cash, then how are you gonna pay the recs and small timers.

U.S. whales buried these mutherfukkers swinging for the fences. They are still fukkin swinging. All on the balance sheet. Feds onto the money movers now no one is getting paid on time. Sooner or later everyone is on the freeze or slow play.


Any one of those shit shacks could be buried at any time. This was eventually going to be a problem for any book still taking US players. Can't get the big balances off the books. Hanging their own asses trying to move cash.

Big fukkin mess.

[Bill Dozer]

has sbr issued an official response to this yet

not seeing it anywhere

We've posted in threads about the book.

BetOnline has an issue with a wire processor. Average total time now is about a month wait for 8 owed accounts. 6 are wires. Two, via other method, in Asia are waiting over a month. It's the same as it always has been... If it's one batch of players due to a processing problem, we work on letting players know the updates and expect the book to fix and move on. If it is a new trend for a high rated book taking x days to send funds then we adjust the rating.

Bodog, who is back down to 2 weeks from 4 or more, is one of the biggest and longest standing sponsors and was recently downgraded 2 spots. They hope to be at one week's time soon. But, they also started higher than BetOnline.

BetOnline has had their share of issues this summer, but as I tell new guys who ask, they have corrected each and have never cheated or not paid a player in 6 years. They also rescued Sportsbetting.com. There is a lot to keep an eye on right now. Hopefully things stay smooth for their existing BetOnline players.

[mathdotcom]

you must be joking

I meant that relative to what shari knows

[milwaukee mike]

BetOnline has an issue with a wire processor. Average total time now is about a month wait for 8 owed accounts. 6 are wires. Two, via other method, in Asia are waiting over a month. It's the same as it always has been... If it's one batch of players due to a processing problem, we work on letting players know the updates and expect the book to fix and move on. If it is a new trend for a high rated book taking x days to send funds then we adjust the rating.

Bodog, who is back down to 2 weeks from 4 or more, is one of the biggest and longest standing sponsors and was recently downgraded 2 spots. They hope to be at one week's time soon. But, they also started higher than BetOnline.

BetOnline has had their share of issues this summer, but as I tell new guys who ask, they have corrected each and have never cheated or not paid a player in 6 years.

bill i respect the heck out of your opinion and so does almost everyone here. a couple things about your post:
1st bold print - if average is "about a month" that means some of those have been waiting a couple months. unacceptable but let's face facts, this is still very much in the slow-pay/processor issue rather than no-pay category.
2nd bold print - isn't this true of every top-tier book, right until they start not paying? in times like this if i ran a book i would say "i'll send you the max mon.eygr.am or we.ster.uni.on every day at my expense until this gets settled"

[ronald]

Gritter if I sound like I am giving Mathy shit here. I made a valid point and I am sure even Mathy knows what point I was making. Mathy or anyone else should be paid, absolutely. Sux that he is grinding on a slow pay.

You make a very valid point here and it is the same one I have been pushing here. Make sure your outs are solid. Do your homework. Or eat the risk if you take it.

Mathy of all people knew, or should have known what was common knowledge here. After the ringleaders of BOL and a few other "family" books took a ride, it was best to avoid them. That shit is still for the most part not finished. Buyer beware.

Maybe a fresh voice will wake you up.

Mathy is not complaining that BOL is slowpaying him. He understands and accepts that risk when weighing whether or not to play at BOL or any other book for that matter.

Mathy has a problem with the way SBR is handling BOL given that SBR claims to look out for the player. That is his point. Mathy is simply stating that SBR is more quick to play the "watchdog" role when complaints involve a book that is not a primary advertiser (or better yet, a book that advertises at RX and not here).

Wake up.

[shari91]

I meant that relative to what shari knows

And yet I'm the only Mod who posted in here.

Maybe try laying off of the misdirected insults? I don't proclaim to be an expert on anything from parenting to sportsbooks. I asked Ray a question. Get your knickers out of the knot they perennially seem to be in.

[mathdotcom]

And yet I'm the only Mod who posted in here.

Maybe try laying off of the misdirected insults? I don't proclaim to be an expert on anything from parenting to sportsbooks. I asked Ray a question. Get your knickers out of the knot they perennially seem to be in.

That was a private comment to durito, please don't interrupt

[shari91]

Maybe a fresh voice will wake you up.

Mathy is not complaining that BOL is slowpaying him. He understands and accepts that risk when weighing whether or not to play at BOL or any other book for that matter.

Mathy has a problem with the way SBR is handling BOL given that SBR claims to look out for the player. That is his point. Mathy is simply stating that SBR is more quick to play the "watchdog" role when complaints involve a book that is not a primary advertiser (or better yet, a book that advertises at RX and not here).

Wake up.

As to this: Is there an example where someone got hosed at BOL like Cory did from EzStreet? Just to make it clear: I AM NOT BEING SARCASTIC OR FACETIOUS. I'd really like to know for my own benefit.