Are those Bookmaker percentages really the number of bets on each side?

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  • k13
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-16-10
    • 18104

    #1
    Are those Bookmaker percentages really the number of bets on each side?
    I don't check out their site too often just noticed it recently.

    They seem sort of believable.....
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    what site??

    Sports Insights they are exaggerated terribly
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    • ChalkyDog
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-02-11
      • 9598

      #3
      Is this what you're talking about? I haven't actually used them much - always forget. Would also like to know how realistic those are.

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      • LT Profits
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-27-06
        • 90963

        #4
        Originally posted by jjgold
        what site??

        Sports Insights they are exaggerated terribly
        No they are not, Sports Insights is very accurate and you can even get a breakdown by book. I wouldn't trust most free sites though with the notable exception of SBR, which is accurate but uses 5 Dimes only.
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        • Smoke
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-09-09
          • 48111

          #5
          Those numbers aren't accurate

          Neither are the pay services either
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          • k13
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-16-10
            • 18104

            #6
            Originally posted by ChalkyDog
            Is this what you're talking about? I haven't actually used them much - always forget. Would also like to know how realistic those are.

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            Yeah that's what I'm talking about.
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            • unluckysob
              SBR MVP
              • 05-21-08
              • 1527

              #7
              I am more interested in amount of $$$ on each side
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              • LT Profits
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-27-06
                • 90963

                #8
                Originally posted by unluckysob
                I am more interested in amount of $$$ on each side
                No, knowing % of bets is more important. The lines moves with the money like 99% of the time, so knowing $$$ bet won't reveal anything because it will coincide with the line move. But knowing percent of bets makes it easier to spot sharp money moves (RLM).
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                • Frogger
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 04-17-10
                  • 382

                  #9
                  The line does NOT move with the money. A square bets 50k and CRIS may not move the line. A sharp or someone they respect bets $2000 on same game and they move 1/2 point.
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Frogger
                    The line does NOT move with the money. A square bets 50k and CRIS may not move the line. A sharp or someone they respect bets $2000 on same game and they move 1/2 point.
                    I get the whole "Faces, not Dollars" scenario, but in the long run, money talks because squares betting big money won't have that money for long and the sharps have more staying power.
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                    • Monte
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-21-10
                      • 2056

                      #11
                      Cris/Bookmaker is totally over rated in terms of "sharp lines"...i see weak ass lines there all the time, and am 99% sure they move on money where pinny would just set the line back to where it was.
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                      • SlickFazzer
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-22-08
                        • 20209

                        #12
                        Use an average from all the sites that offer ticket count percentages.
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                        • k13
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-16-10
                          • 18104

                          #13
                          The most action on Bears and Bills over total wins.

                          Sounds about right to me.
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            Originally posted by k13
                            The most action on Bears and Bills over total wins.

                            Sounds about right to me.
                            I like both of those two as well as Falcons under 9.5
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                            • CoachJB
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 05-08-12
                              • 358

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Frogger
                              The line does NOT move with the money. A square bets 50k and CRIS may not move the line. A sharp or someone they respect bets $2000 on same game and they move 1/2 point.

                              Not many squares playing 50k a game....
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                              • CoachJB
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 05-08-12
                                • 358

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Monte
                                Cris/Bookmaker is totally over rated in terms of "sharp lines"...i see weak ass lines there all the time, and am 99% sure they move on money where pinny would just set the line back to where it was.
                                I agree. "cris" and "sharp lines" should not be mentioned in the same sentence. Years ago they absolutely were sharp, those times have passed.
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                                • username474
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 01-09-09
                                  • 480

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by CoachJB
                                  Not many squares playing 50k a game....
                                  I think you are highly underestimating how much money is bet by recreational bettors/whales and how many of them there are in the U.S. . I know a small town New England bookie that takes up to 500k bets for NFL.
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                                  • k13
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-16-10
                                    • 18104

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                                    I like both of those two as well as Falcons under 9.5
                                    Sharpen up LT.....
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                                    • LT Profits
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-27-06
                                      • 90963

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by k13
                                      Sharpen up LT.....
                                      Oh, I think I am pretty sharp. I am also feeling Jets Under 9.
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                                      • yisman
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-01-08
                                        • 75682

                                        #20
                                        I was looking at their olympic betting last night and some weird numbers there. According to them, they only got bets on the favorites and two longshots in one of the track and field ones I was looking at. Everything else was blank.
                                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                        [/quote]

                                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                        • Inkwell77
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-03-11
                                          • 3227

                                          #21
                                          Squares are not betting Bills over 7.5 wins......
                                          Well actually maybe the pseudo-sharps are (myself included, I bet over 7 wins -130) because very very few sharps bet over on any win total ever
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                                          • Monte
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-21-10
                                            • 2056

                                            #22
                                            There is always a high % on the biggest shit odds available...like Redsox today -210 and -200, either there are a lot of dumbfukks betting at BM or these numbers are made up.
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