Am I the only one Taking the Phillies +135 to win the World Series?

[betplom]

the phillies had a luck streak to even be in the world series.i wish you could all see how stupid you are for taking the phillies to win the world series.

tampa has made it this far and now that they made it over the boston hump,the philles are next.........THE RAYS WILL SHOW WHY THEY HAD THE BEST RECORD IN BASEBALL.PHILLIES WILL BE LUCKY TO WIN 1 OR 2 GAMES.........RAYS ALL THE WAY BABY.........FVCK THE HATERS AND DOUBTERS

I WAS liking the Rays, until I saw this.

As soon as you call the Rays a lock I'll be able to bet Philly.
If I remember correctly you live not too far from the (Tampa) stadium right?
You believe this gives you an inside edge.

(stadium = mental hospital)

[BadFinger]

i took phillies +130 at 5dimes. want to also bet one of their prop totals for game 1 take over 9 for around +180 or more earlier today. anyone think it might be a 6-4, 7-4 game?

[Tosser]

wow the forum is finally up again...guys the Rays are the better overall team, anything can happen but the Rays are FAST.

[Willie Bee]

The two offenses are very equal in my opinion. Yes, the Rays get the nod in speed, plus they've gone nutso in the postseason with (I think) 22 homers in their 11 games so far (13 of those by Upton and Longoria if my old fart memory is correct). Phils had more power in regular season, starting pitching is pretty even in my opinion. Defense I think Tampa is much, much better overall in the outfield (over almost all other teams), but I like the Phillies' infield gloves. Difference will be the bullpens and late game, 'clutch hitting.'

[Chi_archie]

I don't pretend to know how this series will go really.... but I do think the public and baseball world in general has quickly fallen in love and made the into rays media darlings... they are a great story no two ways about it. and people want to see the story come to a great conclusion with the Rays winning.

[Western]

The Phillies will probably end up winning it. Philly nation has been complaining for years now how they haven't won anything in a while, hell its the Phillies World Series to lose.

[flyingillini]

I am taking the Phillies to win the Series.
I am also taking the Phillies to win 4-2 +625

[thezbar]

Phillies win this series, I won't consider hedging until after Game 2. I am banking on them getting at least a split at Tampa, and then I could get TB series as nice hedge.

Thats the same thing I'm doing. Got the Phils +128. I have no feeling one way or another. Just looking for a small profit then move forward.

[daggerkobe]

You guys wanna know why Phils were made the dogs?

According to Kornheiser, Vegas is on the hook for a shitload thanks to all the people that bet the Rays before the season.

So they are hedging with the Phils.

[fifawcs]

Like the rest of us, sportsbooks can't predict the future. They are probably praying that the phils win. Lucky for them, i think they may be fortunate enough for such a fate.

[betplom]

You guys wanna know why Phils were made the dogs?

According to Kornheiser, Vegas is on the hook for a shitload thanks to all the people that bet the Rays before the season.

So they are hedging with the Phils.

Interesting, if this is true.

[LLXC]

Also backing Philly! GL to us.

[reno cool]

TBay is legit fav. Philly better win game1 to have much of a chance.

Besides Hammels, their starters aren't overly impressive.

And don't forget how dominant the AL has been.

[wtt0315]

phillies in 4, if moyer pitches his last game of his career half way decent but if not 5

[Justin7]

I'm on them.

[LT Profits]

TBay is legit fav. Philly better win game1 to have much of a chance.

Besides Hammels, their starters aren't overly impressive.

And don't forget how dominant the AL has been.

That last part means nothing here, the Phillies match up very well regardless of the superiority of the AL as a whole.

[blackbart]

the Hamels/Phillies package was not all that special on the road, going just 10-7. But break that down one more step, and we get a more clear picture – they were 8-0 on the road against teams with losing records, and just 2-7 in the other nine games.

[blackbart]

Considerations:
*Philadelphia was 92-70 on the year, winning the NL East.

*Philadelphia plays in the lesser of the two leagues. The NL was 103-149 against the AL this year.

*Philadelphia was 4-11 in Interleague play (1-2 vs. Toronto, 1-2 vs. Boston, 0-3 vs LAA, 1-2 at Texas, 1-2 at Oakland----note that's 2-7 at home vs. decent AL opposition...but it is a very small sample size of course)

*Philadelphia was 43-46 in the regular season against teams who were over .500, but did go 7-2 in the NL playoffs vs. winning teams. Note that if Philly were in the AL East, they would have played about 100 games against teams with winning records, as TB did.

[fifawcs]

I am just as much of an AL snob as all of you. But i still think Phils take this. They are the best NL contender in years. They have the pitching, defense, offense, bullpen.

[fifawcs]

Don't go by Philly's interleague performance. That was before their team started playing well. That was before Myers got locked in and the Phils acquired Blanton. Those numbers mean nothing.

[blackbart]

rays have a definitive advantage in the starting pitching.

[blackbart]

Don't go by Philly's interleague performance. That was before their team started playing well. That was before Myers got locked in and the Phils acquired Blanton. Those numbers mean nothing.

stats would point out the opposite

After 30 games, Philadelphia was 17-13..a 92-win pace
After 40 games, Philadelphia was 22-18, an 89-win pace
After 50 games, Philadelphia was 27-23, an 87-win pace
After 60 games, Philadelphia was 35-25, a 94-win pace

[LT Profits]

blackbart,

You are ignoring recency. Hamels has allowed two earned runs or less in 12 of his last 13 starts, with six of those starts coming on the road including at Dodgers twice and at Cubs, all playoff teams. On the flip side, Kazmir has sputtered in the second half of the year, especially at home.

And again, the strengths of the leagues as a whole does not matter when we get to this point, and the Phillies match up very well with TB, unlike last season when a white-hot Colorado team was still clearly inferior to Boston in my mind, and I posted as much before that series.

Phillies in 5 or 6 games here.

[mr. leisure]

Just bet the phillies to win the world series, +146 at LAS PALMAS .
WHO CAN PASS UP THAT NUMBER

[blackbart]

when attempting to compare the strengths of two teams, what does matter if not the past performances of those two teams?
deluded public perception or the stats that i have quoted.

[LT Profits]

when attempting to compare the strengths of two teams, what does matter if not the past performances of those two teams?
deluded public perception or the stats that i have quoted.

But you posted some things that are totally irrelevant, such as the Phils' interleague record and their road W/L record when Hamels starts.

The Phillies are playing their best ball and Hamels is pitching his best ball of the season right now, and besides, W/L record when a pitcher starts is meaningless too. Hamel's 1.09 road WHIP is much more meaningful than the fact that the team went just 10-7 in those games.

[krk1030]

I dont understand what vegas is doing. If they are on the hook with rays futures wouldnt it make sense to have the phillies the favorite.

Now all the people with rays futures can hedge at +150.

[daggerkobe]

Thats the point. They want money on the Phils to balance their sheet. Always better to payout $500,000 than $1M.

I think with the superior bats and bullpen of Phils they are too good to be such large dogs unless they were hedging like Kornheiser said.

[blackbart]

But you posted some things that are totally irrelevant, such as the Phils' interleague record and their road W/L record when Hamels starts.

The Phillies are playing their best ball and Hamels is pitching his best ball of the season right now, and besides, W/L record when a pitcher starts is meaningless too. Hamel's 1.09 road WHIP is much more meaningful than the fact that the team went just 10-7 in those games.

i think interleague record and road w/l are terrifically relevant and to say otherwise defies logic

again you are contradicting the facts as the stats i posted show the philiies are not playing their best ball right now

show some analytical data supporting your claims and it would lend some credence to the conclusions

[LT Profits]

i think interleague record and road w/l are terrifically relevant and to say otherwise defies logic

again you are contradicting the facts as the stats i posted show the philiies are not playing their best ball right now

show some analytical data supporting your claims and it would lend some credence to the conclusions

No you are dead wrong, you are quoting information that is widely available to everyone including the books, thus making it irrelevant because it is already factored into the line.

Furthermore, W/L record is probably the single worst statistic to look at when evaluating a pitcher's ability. This is a perect example as someone with a 1.09 WHIP should be a lot better than 10-7, so obviously Hamels is a lot better than that record.

You actually already pointed out that the Phillies are 7-2 in the playoffs, so they are now beating teams with winning records. When you add in their September stretch run, there is no denying that they are peaking right now.

I also already pointed out that Hammels is in peak form individually with supporting data above.

[POTVINSUX]

Im on the Phils to win the series! (+120)

Gooo PHILLIES!

[reno cool]

recency is the factor thats overrated if anything. (your LAD prediction gd example)

The fact that AL is superior tends to lift Tampa's stats in general and is therefore relevant.

[crackerjack]

the phillies had a luck streak to even be in the world series.i wish you could all see how stupid you are for taking the phillies to win the world series.

tampa has made it this far and now that they made it over the boston hump,the philles are next.........THE RAYS WILL SHOW WHY THEY HAD THE BEST RECORD IN BASEBALL.PHILLIES WILL BE LUCKY TO WIN 1 OR 2 GAMES.........RAYS ALL THE WAY BABY.........FVCK THE HATERS AND DOUBTERS

Makes me feel a little more comfortable being on the Phillies knowing bradley is on TB.

[yisman]

no, you're not the only one. I'd take the Phillies if I had that price, but since I don't, I'm passing.

[ryanXL977]

there is no reason to bet phils to win the series but not to be thtem today

\gonna be hard to win the series and lose a hammels start in the process

bet phils today. if they win you win cash instantly
if they lose you can always bet phils series at +200 or so