Russian businessman folds four-of-a-kind in $1M poker tournament

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  • Vitooch
    SBR MVP
    • 09-26-11
    • 3470

    #1
    Russian businessman folds four-of-a-kind in $1M poker tournament


    Ballsy or stupid?
  • lunchbawks
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-31-10
    • 12873

    #2
    worst fold in history of poker, and its on film
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    • nosniboR11
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-02-08
      • 10042

      #3
      I dont think I agree with his play
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      • big joe 1212
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 06-01-08
        • 19380

        #4
        stupid

        gotta call there

        he probably just had the ace of spades
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        • YorkHunt
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 12-11-10
          • 7496

          #5
          When your worth as much as him, he should have just called. Hes out already anyways...If he would have called who knows, he may still be in.
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          • ttwarrior1
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 06-23-09
            • 28462

            #6
            no way the guy had a straight flush and even if he did , nothing wrong with losing with quads.
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            • a4u2fear
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-29-10
              • 8147

              #7
              Originally posted by ttwarrior1
              no way the guy had a straight flush and even if he did , nothing wrong with losing with quads.
              Yep, stupid
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              • Scorpion
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-04-05
                • 7797

                #8
                smart man, you cant make money playing card games

                just look at that black phil ivey, he is broke
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                • yahoonino
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-10-07
                  • 2651

                  #9
                  i never fold 4 of a kind,,,stupid play of the years
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                  • d2bets
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 39995

                    #10
                    Unreal.

                    So can we find out what Morgan had? I think he had A(spades) with Jack.
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                    • downsouth
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-13-11
                      • 11580

                      #11
                      Originally posted by d2bets
                      Unreal.

                      So can we find out what Morgan had? I think he had A(spades) with Jack.
                      Wouldnt you expect raise from him though with top pair and only backdoor flush draw? Guy hits pot for 50k and guy with jacks would typically raise at least want to find out where he is at.

                      But then again, would probably expect raise if he flopped open ended with spades.

                      Honestly no idea, have never been in position to make such a tough laydown and hope I never have too.
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                      • ThaWoj
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 03-09-10
                        • 6764

                        #12
                        Worst fold ever and cant believe he showed it..
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                        • wtt0315
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-18-07
                          • 8037

                          #13
                          he should be investagated for chip dumping.
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                          • rickdangerous
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 07-03-12
                            • 5

                            #14
                            I can't believe he folded when he had a four of a kind! That's like the best card move you can get
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                            • NYSportsGuy210
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-07-09
                              • 11347

                              #15
                              What was the expression on the guy who won the pot's face?
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                              • coop
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-11-11
                                • 616

                                #16
                                "Tom Dwan from the button raised 32,000, his regular raise. I'm small blind. Call. The gentlemen [Minnesota businessman John Morgan] in big blind called. After this, 7s-Js-8c on the flop. I [bet] from first position, 50,000. [There was an] instant call from the gentleman, and Tom Dwan folded. Then, the eight of spades [on the turn]. Now it's 7-8-J of spades and 8 of clubs. I bet approximately 200,000, approximately the pot. This gentleman instantly called and was very excited. [He looked] around like all cameras in the world are looking at our hand. I don't know why, but it is looking for me like this. After this, the king of spades on the river. I bet 700,000, a little more than pot. I over-bet. Five seconds thinking and he is all-in for 700,000 and 2 million. For me, it's an easy fold. But I maybe thought for two minutes. For me, in real game for example, [it's an] easy fold.
                                "I had physical tells plus technically, if he has two kings, he'd raise before the flop because he is a very straightforward player and Tom Dwan raised from button. Only one hand possible in theory, two jacks, but if he has two jacks, I think first of all, he'd raise Tom before the flop, though that is not 100 percent, plus, he would think more on the river because with kings plus straight flush plus two eights, he has [with jacks] only the fourth-best combination. … He should be thinking more about the pot. He was so excited on turn, the king did not frighten him at all. My over-bet did not frighten him, plus before this, he played very straightforward … very tight. He likes to participate in tournament. He cares not about money. … All together, I think [it's an] easy fold.
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                                • zam77
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-03-10
                                  • 3586

                                  #17
                                  I wonder if the odds of someone folding 4 of a kind are similar to someone getting 4 of a kind? 1 in 4,165.
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                                  • The Giant
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-21-12
                                    • 21480

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by coop
                                    "Tom Dwan from the button raised 32,000, his regular raise. I'm small blind. Call. The gentlemen [Minnesota businessman John Morgan] in big blind called. After this, 7s-Js-8c on the flop. I [bet] from first position, 50,000. [There was an] instant call from the gentleman, and Tom Dwan folded. Then, the eight of spades [on the turn]. Now it's 7-8-J of spades and 8 of clubs. I bet approximately 200,000, approximately the pot. This gentleman instantly called and was very excited. [He looked] around like all cameras in the world are looking at our hand. I don't know why, but it is looking for me like this. After this, the king of spades on the river. I bet 700,000, a little more than pot. I over-bet. Five seconds thinking and he is all-in for 700,000 and 2 million. For me, it's an easy fold. But I maybe thought for two minutes. For me, in real game for example, [it's an] easy fold.
                                    "I had physical tells plus technically, if he has two kings, he'd raise before the flop because he is a very straightforward player and Tom Dwan raised from button. Only one hand possible in theory, two jacks, but if he has two jacks, I think first of all, he'd raise Tom before the flop, though that is not 100 percent, plus, he would think more on the river because with kings plus straight flush plus two eights, he has [with jacks] only the fourth-best combination. … He should be thinking more about the pot. He was so excited on turn, the king did not frighten him at all. My over-bet did not frighten him, plus before this, he played very straightforward … very tight. He likes to participate in tournament. He cares not about money. … All together, I think [it's an] easy fold.
                                    After reading this, it sounds like the worst fold ever.

                                    I had imagined them re-raising each other a couple of times at least. How in the world does he fold quads when there are several hands he could have beat, including a bluff?
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                                    • A.M.S.
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 06-26-10
                                      • 837

                                      #19
                                      the guy had the straight flush .....he told the other players...... so it was a good fold .....
                                      i woulda went broke on that hand.
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                                      • NYSportsGuy210
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-07-09
                                        • 11347

                                        #20
                                        He could have had Ace high flush. But if he was holding the 9s-10s (what a pretty looking hand btw) then more power to him. The guy who folded quads is a pro.
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                                        • The Giant
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-21-12
                                          • 21480

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by A.M.S.
                                          the guy had the straight flush .....he told the other players...... so it was a good fold .....
                                          i woulda went broke on that hand.
                                          Link?
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                                          • rem sleep
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-04-10
                                            • 1238

                                            #22
                                            Is this on film? I would love to see it
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                                            • aceking
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-07-05
                                              • 4782

                                              #23
                                              its possible , even I can flop a royal .

                                              1 / 649,740

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                                              • Le_Donk
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 02-13-10
                                                • 627

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by coop
                                                "Tom Dwan from the button raised 32,000, his regular raise. I'm small blind. Call. The gentlemen [Minnesota businessman John Morgan] in big blind called. After this, 7s-Js-8c on the flop. I [bet] from first position, 50,000. [There was an] instant call from the gentleman, and Tom Dwan folded. Then, the eight of spades [on the turn]. Now it's 7-8-J of spades and 8 of clubs. I bet approximately 200,000, approximately the pot. This gentleman instantly called and was very excited. [He looked] around like all cameras in the world are looking at our hand. I don't know why, but it is looking for me like this. After this, the king of spades on the river. I bet 700,000, a little more than pot. I over-bet. Five seconds thinking and he is all-in for 700,000 and 2 million. For me, it's an easy fold. But I maybe thought for two minutes. For me, in real game for example, [it's an] easy fold.
                                                "I had physical tells plus technically, if he has two kings, he'd raise before the flop because he is a very straightforward player and Tom Dwan raised from button. Only one hand possible in theory, two jacks, but if he has two jacks, I think first of all, he'd raise Tom before the flop, though that is not 100 percent, plus, he would think more on the river because with kings plus straight flush plus two eights, he has [with jacks] only the fourth-best combination. … He should be thinking more about the pot. He was so excited on turn, the king did not frighten him at all. My over-bet did not frighten him, plus before this, he played very straightforward … very tight. He likes to participate in tournament. He cares not about money. … All together, I think [it's an] easy fold.

                                                good chance that he had a straight flush because every player would show his bluff when you get 4 of a kind to open fold
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                                                • wikkidinsane
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-30-10
                                                  • 13799

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Scorpion
                                                  smart man, you cant make money playing card games

                                                  just look at that black phil ivey, he is broke

                                                  Are you stupid or just dumb?
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                                                  • thetrinity
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-25-11
                                                    • 22431

                                                    #26
                                                    i think the guy did have the straight flush, i woulda went broke with the quads for sure, hero fold though at any rate.
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                                                    • PaperTrail07
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 08-29-08
                                                      • 20423

                                                      #27
                                                      aceking LOL get a real deck and see how many u flop
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