is this 100% 4th of july freeplay impossible to meet?

[Inkwell77]

So I don't know much about rollovers and such, but betphoenix is offering a 100% fp with a 12x rollover.

So if I have this right:
Deposit $400
Receive $400 fp
Let's say I win $400 off the freeplay.
So now $800*12=9600
So I have to wager $9600 before I am eligible to cashout, right?

Seems brutal, could take a long time it would seem

[GamblerSpirit]

Yes...Best of luck if you choose to pursue it..

[LVHerbie]

Are you making +EV bets? If so almost any bonus is also going to be +EV to accept...

[jeffdane]

standard

[theblueprint]

Unless u bet all damn day that's gonna take you quite a long time

[jankay]

thats a lot................ cause bet365 has the same bonus and theirs is 3 or 4times roll over if im not wrong

[yisman]

not impossible, but I wouldn't do it. 100% sounds great, but 12x rollover is crazy. Unless you have other funds already there, it would take quite a while to complete 12x.

[Duff85]

Scalp it out?

[Iwinyourmoney]

I was able to rollover I was able to rollover 7800$ in 2 days like 2 months ago. Just fire fire fire

[Smoke]

I would be more worried about cashing out at betphoenix than whether or not you can meet that rollover

[taxer]

Betphoenix is a troubled group , they have not been able to keep a high ranking manager for over a year one of my agents at another post up shop down there has stated that one of the owners is basically hiding out and that payroll is always an issue.

SOO many better books out there without the black cloud that BP has Heritage , 5dimes and if you want the big bonus 1vice.ag is offering 150% freeplay 12 x rollover.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Thats 96 $100 wagers. Most here bet 5+ times a days. Should only take 3-4 weeks for most.

[QuangX]

not impossible, but I wouldn't do it. 100% sounds great, but 12x rollover is crazy. Unless you have other funds already there, it would take quite a while to complete 12x.

Did a $200 with $200 on freeplay on Monday this week, I have only $1000 rollover left. Just saying, takes a week or two, if your up.

[dolson]

That roll is not hard to meet, every bet counts towards it, Pheonix has never stiffed me in nine years, Im all over that $400 for $400, its nice to start July with $400 in free play

[yisman]

every bet should count, that's how it's worked at the books I've bet at

[Legions36]

I jumped on this but with the sister site skybook, no worries for me at all. Don't forget u might also get a free $25 2 team parlay bet for the all-star game but thats at skybook i didn't check betphoenix u guys might want to look into it.

[dolson]

every bet should count, that's how it's worked at the books I've bet at

Then don't ever try BetUs , they don't count prop bets or any halftime bets towards the roll, they only count 1/2 your baseball action also.

[yisman]

betus is a terrible book

I jumped on this but with the sister site skybook, no worries for me at all. Don't forget u might also get a free $25 2 team parlay bet for the all-star game but thats at skybook i didn't check betphoenix u guys might want to look into it.

same deal at betphoenix

[ChalkyDog]

Holy christ, a 12x rollover?

Man, what a handicap that places on you. Good luck if you go for it.

[Legions36]

betus is a terrible book




same deal at betphoenix

Hey can i get 1 of your trophies? Im sure u wont miss it...jeeze i don't even have 1 and u have 3 rows...

[yisman]

poker and playing in the sbr sportsbook, basically

[GamblerSpirit]

Is betphoenix the same as BetIslands? Is it a reliable source for US players?

[yisman]

not related to BI

[lines freak]

The problem with free plays as I see it....

So I don't know much about rollovers and such, but betphoenix is offering a 100% fp with a 12x rollover.

So if I have this right:
Deposit $400
Receive $400 fp
Let's say I win $400 off the freeplay.
So now $800*12=9600
So I have to wager $9600 before I am eligible to cashout, right?

Seems brutal, could take a long time it would seem

Is they are not really free. For one thing, you have to deposit to get it, so its not free, it's a complimentary play.

Secondly, you have to win the free play just to have it. So, if you lose it, you get nothing, yet you still have to rollover your own money, and the free play money.

And then in this case a 12 time rollover, is not impossible, but not worth it. If you can rollover your own money say 9 times, you can cash it out and not have to meet three more rollovers.

It's a lot of ends to meet to get a free play that may or may not win. If you lose the free play it really screws your whole deposit.

cash bonuses are the best(hard to find), and really I think a rollover should just be the free play amount, not your own money plus the free play, I mean it's only a 50/50 chance you will win the free play at all, it's all designed to make your mouth water, but the meal never comes.

[mtneer1212]

Is they are not really free. For one thing, you have to deposit to get it, so its not free, it's a complimentary play.

Secondly, you have to win the free play just to have it. So, if you lose it, you get nothing, yet you still have to rollover your own money, and the free play money.

And then in this case a 12 time rollover, is not impossible, but not worth it. If you can rollover your own money say 9 times, you can cash it out and not have to meet three more rollovers.

It's a lot of ends to meet to get a free play that may or may not win. If you lose the free play it really screws your whole deposit.

cash bonuses are the best(hard to find), and really I think a rollover should just be the free play amount, not your own money plus the free play, I mean it's only a 50/50 chance you will win the free play at all, it's all designed to make your mouth water, but the meal never comes.

Agree with everything here except your second point..... in most cases with BetPhoenix and BetIslands, you only have to rollover the winnings from your freeplay, not the freeplay amount. So if you lose it, you just have to rollover your deposit.

[yisman]

some books don't look at the winnings at all. They just do deposit+freeplay x however many times. So 400 and a 400 freeplay, even if you don't get anything from the freeplay, would be 9600 in rollover.

[lines freak]

Agree with everything here except your second point..... in most cases with BetPhoenix and BetIslands, you only have to rollover the winnings from your freeplay, not the freeplay amount. So if you lose it, you just have to rollover your deposit.

Well many free plays are straight wagers only, so if its 100 dollar free play you might win 92, on a straight wager. then you rollover 92 plus your deposit however many times.

Im not sure how some other books work, but I do know many want you to rollover the free play amount even if it loses.

And another thing is, the free play itself doesnt count as part of the rollover. so a 5 time rollover, is after winning the first game. So you really need to rollover it over 6 times the first time is THE important one as there is nothing to work with if you lose it.

I like bonuses and rebates, but im not crazy about free plays where i have to rollover my own money. Books kick our ass enough as it is.

[dolson]

100% freeplay works well for me , its the reason I am up a lot this year.

[lines freak]

100% freeplay works well for me , its the reason I am up a lot this year.

No, winning the bets is the reason you might be up. The free play had nothing to do with you being up, it was just a free play which better win or it puts you in a hole right from the start.

[brendon]

no, because he knows how to work the freeplay. big part he's up and myself is based on freeplay bonus or any bonus. you don't know what you're talking about

[LVHerbie]

No, winning the bets is the reason you might be up. The free play had nothing to do with you being up, it was just a free play which better win or it puts you in a hole right from the start.

This is so nonsensical I wouldn't know where to start responding even if I felt like wasting the time to do so...

[Legions36]

No, winning the bets is the reason you might be up. The free play had nothing to do with you being up, it was just a free play which better win or it puts you in a hole right from the start.

Seems u don't have much experience from what your saying, u should probably be asking questions versus making these statements to guys that have things under there belt.

[lines freak]

no, because he knows how to work the freeplay. big part he's up and myself is based on freeplay bonus or any bonus. you don't know what you're talking about

No, "knowing how to work the bonus" is nothing more than winning youjr bets.

You take all the free plays you like, Ill win my bets, you lose them. being you know how to work the free play
you should be ahead.

Free play means nothing if you lose it.

[lines freak]

This is so nonsensical I wouldn't know where to start responding even if I felt like wasting the time to do so...

Oh books give free plays because anybody in the know, will know how to beat them and knock them out of business.

If they dont know, all they need do is ask you how to beat the book with free plays?

What was your name again, and which book have you consistently beaten with free plays, without winning bets consistently?

[lines freak]

Would u rather go 7-3 ats, with no free play, or go 3-7 ats with a free play?