Dont Forget Bird And Magic Played With GREAT PLAYERS

Smoke · 06-23-12, 06:47 PM

So wade and bosh aren't great players??

Goat Milk · 06-23-12, 07:21 PM

Wade is one of the top 20 greatest players in history by the time he retires. Better numbers than any of Bird's teammates and any of Magic's except Kareem.

McHale? Parish? No where near Wade all time. Bosh is on their level.

Sam Odom · 06-23-12, 07:23 PM

who is posting this weekend drivel - not THE jjgold

lakerboy · 06-23-12, 07:37 PM

Lol goat bosh is not on level with parrish or mchale yet

seaborneq · 06-23-12, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Lebron would end up with 10 titles if he had their talent

Lebron is asked to do everything on his teams

Guard Best player on other team
Run the team on offense
Score
Rebound
Pass

That is what is asked of any all star caliber point guard, shooting guard, or small forward these days, not just LeBron.

frogsrangers · 06-23-12, 08:21 PM

James Worthy was good but no Wade or Bosh

jjgold · 06-23-12, 08:30 PM

No comparisons

Those teams were much deeper better starters

James makes Wade and Bosh better than what they are

Bosh would not even be able to score without james in these tough playoff games

JJJ · 06-23-12, 08:32 PM

who cares NBA is over

acl123 · 06-23-12, 08:33 PM

Jj will you have my baby?

InTheDrink · 06-23-12, 08:40 PM

magic and bird played against each other

and isaiah and dumars

and jordan and pippen

jj youre a fukkin jerkoff

not two ways about it jj is a fukkin jerkoff

jjgold · 06-23-12, 08:48 PM

Magic and Bird played with hall of famers and other great players

Bosh is a above average players thats all

James had no big man..smallest team in the NBA

Bird and magic had top flight centers and rebounders

What he did was unreal

Magic and Bird were at best average defenders..James one of best defender in the history of basketball

manny24 · 06-23-12, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Magic and Bird played with hall of famers and other great players

Bosh is a above average players thats all

James had no big man..smallest team in the NBA

Bird and magic had top flight centers and rebounders

What he did was unreal

Magic and Bird were at best average defenders..James one of best defender in the history of basketball

n o coach bird stole the fukkin ball!

Smoke · 06-23-12, 08:52 PM

Bosh and wade were always near top of league on scoring before lebron came into picture. Bosh was monster on Toronto as was wade in Miami before big three. Corbin take your meds

convick · 06-23-12, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by InTheDrink

magic and bird played against each other

and isaiah and dumars

and jordan and pippen

jj youre a fukkin jerkoff

not two ways about it jj is a fukkin jerkoff

McHale and Paris were bums.

Kareem and Worthy were bums.

Got it. Bird and Magic won by themselves.

Originally posted by Smoke

Bosh and wade were always near top of league on scoring before lebron came into picture. Bosh was monster on Toronto as was wade in Miami before big three. Corbin take your meds

Bosh never got out of the first round in Toronto and Wade didnt either after Shaq. Great players. Dudes were more like TMac and Vince Carter before James.

wikkidinsane · 06-23-12, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

So wade and bosh aren't great players??

Yeh they are great but look at who magic played with :P

Goat Milk · 06-23-12, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Magic and Bird played with hall of famers and other great players

Bosh is a above average players thats all

James had no big man..smallest team in the NBA

Bird and magic had top flight centers and rebounders

What he did was unreal

Magic and Bird were at best average defenders..James one of best defender in the history of basketball

Good points. Also Wade one of the best defenders at his position in history imo. 6'4, an undersized sg, and more bpg than any sg in nba history.

also don't forget wade averaged 29 a game in finals last year while lebron went into his shell, and shaq admitted wade was best player in 06 where he averaged 35 a game in the finals to beat dallas 4 straight times. 4th all time in PPG in the nba finals (minimum of 8 games).

Goat Milk · 06-23-12, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by convick

Bosh never got out of the first round in Toronto and Wade didnt either after Shaq. Great players. Dudes were more like TMac and Vince Carter before James.

Shaq dick rode Wade to a ring and he admitted he was not the best player on that team. Then he left and after Kobe got 5, he begged Lebron to have him. After it didn't work out in CLEV, Shaq went on to teams with other superstars like PHX and Boston.

No dignity whatsoever. Shaq is no where near Bryant all-time. Not even close. Magic Johnson doesn't even mention shaq anymore as one of the great lakers

the discussion is between him, Bryant and Kareem

bryant81 · 06-23-12, 09:52 PM

^^ Shaq went from PHX to CLE, not the other way around. Just a correction.

ttwarrior1 · 06-23-12, 09:54 PM

they were drafted, they didnt hold a press conference and try to join eachother

TRE1968 · 06-23-12, 09:56 PM

bosh as good as Mchale and parish..put down the crack pipe

lakerboy · 06-23-12, 09:57 PM

Shaq is a joke. Any player who misses that many ft's is garbage.

InTheDrink · 06-23-12, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Magic and Bird played with hall of famers and other great players

Bosh is a above average players thats all

James had no big man..smallest team in the NBA

Bird and magic had top flight centers and rebounders

What he did was unreal

Magic and Bird were at best average defenders..James one of best defender in the history of basketball

Youre a dumb fuk. Way to avoid your op. they don't have 10 titles because they played in the best era of Nba competition. Not on eplayer would win every year playing against that competition. period.

Fyi the heat's window with this team is max three years.

People don't understand that not only was Jordan the best ever but he was pretty fortunate that they were reinvented a couple times.

Fyi Horace grant and Scottie pippen were 24 when the bulls legacy took off

will2survive · 06-23-12, 10:00 PM

This is out of hand "OP". Lebron isn't in the same league as magic and Bird. Magic and Bird had to compete against eachother and the level of play was much higher.

Where Michael's concerned, he was unreal but his level of competition was lesser than Bird and Magic also

wikkidinsane · 06-23-12, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Good points. Also Wade one of the best defenders at his position in history imo. 6'4, an undersized sg, and more bpg than any sg in nba history.

also don't forget wade averaged 29 a game in finals last year while lebron went into his shell, and shaq admitted wade was best player in 06 where he averaged 35 a game in the finals to beat dallas 4 straight times. 4th all time in PPG in the nba finals (minimum of 8 games).

SHAQ gave Kobe 3 of those 5 by the way and If the Miami Heat didnt have Shaq for the 05-06 season no way we would have won that title.

onlooker · 06-23-12, 10:08 PM

Teams need a couple of supporting stars to win. A star, and a co-star. Regardless of how the end up together.

A good coach also, that part seems to get overlooked.

will2survive · 06-23-12, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by wikkidinsane

SHAQ gave Kobe 3 of those 5 by the way and If the Miami Heat didnt have Shaq for the 05-06 season no way we would have won that title.

Wikkid--- You're a Florida "homer". Please don't put Shaq's name into any of this. Kobe won without Shaq and Shaq declared him the greatest Laker. Wade won the 1st Heat Championship. I also have news for you because you're young. You see my avatar? Christian Laettner OWNED Shaq's ass at LSU. I remember it like it was yesterday.

TRE1968 · 06-23-12, 10:12 PM

this is 110 % true

Originally posted by will2survive

This is out of hand "OP". Lebron isn't in the same league as magic and Bird. Magic and Bird had to compete against eachother and the level of play was much higher.

Where Michael's concerned, he was unreal but his level of competition was lesser than Bird and Magic also

will2survive · 06-23-12, 10:13 PM

In the 80's Lakers and Celtics team-EVERYONE WAS A TOP LEVEL PLAYER--- Guy's nowadays are "pups". I have major respect for warriors like Duncan, KG, Pierce, Lebron, and Wade but the 80's Celtics and Lakers would blast these teams out of the building.

rm18 · 06-23-12, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Good points. Also Wade one of the best defenders at his position in history imo. 6'4, an undersized sg, and more bpg than any sg in nba history.

also don't forget wade averaged 29 a game in finals last year while lebron went into his shell, and shaq admitted wade was best player in 06 where he averaged 35 a game in the finals to beat dallas 4 straight times. 4th all time in PPG in the nba finals (minimum of 8 games).

Wade does have really long arms though about the same reach as Kobe

will2survive · 06-23-12, 10:16 PM

Shoot, I'd take Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars over Wade. the only guys that could hang with the old schoolers are Duncan, Nash and Kobe but Kobe would have to be more of a team player. 1980's were all about TEAM

lakerboy · 06-23-12, 10:17 PM

Salary cap and free agaency big factors. Also back in the day it was pretty much assumed you win where you are drafted no matter how " tough" it is.

onlooker · 06-23-12, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by will2survive

Shoot, I'd take Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars over Wade. the only guys that could hang with the old schoolers are Duncan, Nash and Kobe but Kobe would have to be more of a team player. 1980's were all about TEAM

So since the 80's were about TEAM, you don't think Lebron would hang? The best passing forward in the game today. Not disagreeing with your players listed, but just wondering why you left Lebron off the list.

will2survive · 06-23-12, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by onlooker

So since the 80's were about TEAM, you don't think Lebron would hang? The best passing forward in the game today. Not disagreeing with your players listed, but just wondering why you left Lebron off the list.

No, Lebron's on the list but he would need to adjust to team play. You think Magic Johnson, Kareem, Bird, McHale would be able to integrate Lebron? Very difficult but he is a major talent. James Worthy and Lebron were different players but in essence, Lebron wouldn't be much more productive than Worthy if he was on the 80 Lakers because he need's to go solo and on the Lakers of the 80's, that wouldn't be possible. It wasn't about stats; If it was, magic Johnson would have a triple double every single game. Magic was intelligent and had to make others better. Can Lebron do that? Absolutely not.

Koldazzice · 06-23-12, 10:34 PM

Who's your daddy? Battier! for duke fans they get it. Without chalmers and battier playing great we are back in OKC where they are closing it out and almost forgot about mike miller. Lebron still didn't have to hit a big shot to win anything, so unfortunately until he can channel his inner robert horry tampron is still a 3quarter guy. Also didnt wade already have a ring without him, oh ya in 06 with one of the best performances ever being down 0-2 to the mavs