so bookmaker's fees for withdrawing money is OUTRAGEOUS!

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  • ipickwinners
    SBR MVP
    • 01-06-08
    • 3136

    #1
    so bookmaker's fees for withdrawing money is OUTRAGEOUS!
    cost $600 to take out $20k???

    i think i need to find a new book after i get my money out of here?

    or is this the normal fee throughout the industry?
  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #2
    Book to book is cheaper.

    "Normal" for the industry? Cashing out 20k from most books is like finding volunteers for exploratory dental surgery. Huge pain in the ass. They have steep fees. You get your money as clockwork as smaller books paying $600 payouts.
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    • ipickwinners
      SBR MVP
      • 01-06-08
      • 3136

      #3
      do u have any suggestions as to the best way to take out 20k without having to pay $600?
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      • Justin7
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-31-06
        • 8577

        #4
        Send 10k to another book. It will cost you only 200.

        If you're a smaller player, you should look closely at 5dimes if you are still welcome there.
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        • ipickwinners
          SBR MVP
          • 01-06-08
          • 3136

          #5
          i have a feeling its going to take me 3 months to get all my money
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          • stuntin909
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 08-05-10
            • 933

            #6
            look at it this way. better to pay those 600 now then to lose more by keeping that money in the account lol
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            • hels
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 04-12-09
              • 8767

              #7
              betdaq/betfair
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              • Bdolan33
                SBR MVP
                • 05-02-12
                • 1255

                #8
                What about the monthly free withdrawl?
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                • Powderguy
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-18-09
                  • 6939

                  #9
                  Free withdrawl, they have those like the guy above me said, don't they?
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                  • ipickwinners
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-06-08
                    • 3136

                    #10
                    the once a month free payout does not apply to the the wire for amounts above 5k

                    this sucks
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Average European and Aussie books might charge $5 for a $20,000 transfer..international then maybe like $50
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                      • potsie
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 03-06-07
                        • 370

                        #12
                        I transfer 10,001 to another book. Remember that your bank will file with the IRS when you get a wire in excess of 10K. Another option may be taking small chunks out via DC. Congrats on the win!
                        "You don't have a gambling problem...you have a LOSING problem!"
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                        • HedgeHog
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-11-07
                          • 10128

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Justin7
                          Send 10k to another book. It will cost you only 200.

                          If you're a smaller player, you should look closely at 5dimes if you are still welcome there.
                          "Only" $200. Most Books that do B2B, charge nothing. Regardless, and more importantly, this new book will likely require a 1-2x rollover on the 10k. Depending on the player, this could take some time and cost hundreds more in juice lost on "forced" action. Not sure this is the best route for most IMO.
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                          • Justin7
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-31-06
                            • 8577

                            #14
                            Originally posted by potsie
                            Remember that your bank will file with the IRS when you get a wire in excess of 10K. Another option may be taking small chunks out via DC. Congrats on the win!
                            I don't think bankwires trigger a CTR. Only cash transactions.
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                            • Big_Slim
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 06-04-12
                              • 409

                              #15
                              IMO....$600 for 20k is a small price to pay for a large amount!....I would also NOT recommend you having 20k wired to your bank because they WILL notify the IRS for anything over 10k coming into your account....so at the end of the year you're gonna owe taxes on the 20k in addition to the $600 that Bookmaker charged you.

                              Do your homework and see which book has the lowest fees with the fastest payouts and transfer small chunks (3-5k) to that book then cash out at that book.
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                              • Big_Slim
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 06-04-12
                                • 409

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Justin7
                                I don't think bankwires trigger a CTR. Only cash transactions.
                                I'm not 100% sure about this but its better to be safe than sorry!....In this environment you gotta believe everybody is watching especially when it comes to getting cash in that amount!
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                                • relaaxx
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-15-06
                                  • 3281

                                  #17
                                  and that's what makes bookmaker suck - 600 is outragous - all the payout options are too high - transfer money for 200 but then you will have to roll the amount transferred over at new book. and it's 200 for small amounts to be transferred also - bad lines--high fees=why play there, because they pay, so what, other books pay without making a fortune in fees. again, they suck.
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                                  • Sam Odom
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 10-30-05
                                    • 58063

                                    #18
                                    A+ Book
                                    Must have OUT
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                                    • Mr. Teaser
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-16-09
                                      • 1668

                                      #19
                                      double post
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                                      • Mr. Teaser
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-16-09
                                        • 1668

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Justin7
                                        I don't think bankwires trigger a CTR. Only cash transactions.
                                        I don't think they do.
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                                        • Smoke
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-09-09
                                          • 48111

                                          #21
                                          $600 fee for 20K is pretty fair
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                                          • Sam Odom
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-30-05
                                            • 58063

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Smoke

                                            $600 fee for 20K is pretty fair
                                            if most were asked to pay 15.00 for a 500.00 w/d they would say 'fine'
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                                            • chilidog
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 04-05-09
                                              • 10305

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by potsie
                                              I transfer 10,001 to another book. Remember that your bank will file with the IRS when you get a wire in excess of 10K.
                                              Originally posted by Justin7

                                              I don't think bankwires trigger a CTR. Only cash transactions.
                                              All bank wires are logged. Every last one of them. Cash transactions of $3,000 and up are reported.
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                                              • HedgeHog
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-11-07
                                                • 10128

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                if most were asked to pay 15.00 for a 500.00 w/d they would say 'fine'
                                                If it costs the same to wire $500 and $20,000, do you think it's ok for the Book to gouge 40x the fee on the larger amount? Most of us don't.
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                                                • Sam Odom
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-30-05
                                                  • 58063

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by HedgeHog

                                                  Most of us don't.

                                                  I understand... I also understand the need to use Bookmaker as an offshore out

                                                  Otherwise , move to Vegas
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                                                  • byronbb
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-13-08
                                                    • 3067

                                                    #26
                                                    I applaud anyone who can beat bookmakers lines AND the 3% vig on withdraws.
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                                                    • Sam Odom
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                      • 58063

                                                      #27
                                                      many times a week the best baseball dog is at BM (Americans)
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                                                      • LordVodka
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-17-09
                                                        • 5206

                                                        #28
                                                        Just pay it and accept it as part of doing business. I don't like bookmaker because of their juice but $600 to take out $20k sounds fine.
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                                                        • erickvivar
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 05-21-10
                                                          • 293

                                                          #29
                                                          Are you serious? only $600 for 20k? geesh, 1k for 20k will still be fine. Take it and stop complaining.
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                                                          • ipickwinners
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-06-08
                                                            • 3136

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by erickvivar
                                                            Are you serious? only $600 for 20k? geesh, 1k for 20k will still be fine. Take it and stop complaining.
                                                            u know i wasnt just handed 20k....i earned that money starting with 1k....it took a lot of work to build it up to where i had it. i want every last dime of it to go into my pocket, not the books
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                                                            • ipickwinners
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-06-08
                                                              • 3136

                                                              #31
                                                              by the way, i only took out 15k because i wanted some money to play the finals.

                                                              am i really going to have to pay taxes on that? my bank will notify the IRS? i need someone to answer this question who knows what they r talking about....JJgold??

                                                              JJ PM me pal please
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                                                              • YorkHunt
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 12-11-10
                                                                • 7496

                                                                #32
                                                                If you made 20k 600 is change. Unless your in Canada or overseas I would just do a wire for maybe 4k. ** the next week for 2500 and the following another wire for 4k. youll have your money in a month but safe from IRS hounding you
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                                                                • YorkHunt
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 12-11-10
                                                                  • 7496

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Dude if you get more than 9900 from overseas wires especially if your at a smaller bank, of course they notify the IRS.
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                                                                  • ipickwinners
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-06-08
                                                                    • 3136

                                                                    #34
                                                                    so whats the IRS gonna do at the end of the year? audit me?
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                                                                    • ipickwinners
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-06-08
                                                                      • 3136

                                                                      #35
                                                                      am i gonna get in trouble with the IRS?
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