Rigged !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pacqiao got robbed !!!!!!!!!!!!

bowers1989 · 06-10-12, 01:10 AM

boxing is dead. wasted 50 on this setup trash.

GoldRush7 · 06-10-12, 01:11 AM

Is there even a remote chance that the Nevada State athletic commission investigates this?

nyplayer33 · 06-10-12, 01:12 AM

thats why that sport is never taken seriously..so many issues for yrs

Ron29301 · 06-10-12, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by Al Masters

Gambling part starts at the 14 minute mark.

Nice video man.

Imsmarterthanu · 06-10-12, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by GoldRush7

Is there even a remote chance that the Nevada State athletic commission investigates this?

NSAC investigating this is like the LAPD investigating its own shootings. In the end it will be completely justified because it's all corrupt behind the scenes. You just need a good Public Relations man to cover up your misdoings and sprinkle coat it with "officialism".

John953 · 06-10-12, 01:17 AM

bradley picked him apart all 12 rounds what were u guys watching

John953 · 06-10-12, 01:18 AM

naw im fuckin wit yall lol i dont like manny but he won cleary and i had money on bradley so i can be too upset

Jesus Christ · 06-10-12, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu

NSAC investigating this is like the LAPD investigating its own shootings. In the end it will be completely justified because it's all corrupt behind the scenes. You just need a good Public Relations man to cover up your misdoings and sprinkle coat it with "officialism".

AraiWa · 06-10-12, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by Thor4140

Take this nonsense to im a jackass and im trying to fool people post site or im as blind idiot post site. 20 thousand people in attendance. 3 color commentary as well as their judge all had the fight one way but u saw something else along with those crooked judges who two always seem to be doing the biggest fights and always fuking it up where Vegas wins the money all the time. Stop it already u are embarrassing yourself. I guess Teddy Atlas is also a fraud who knows nothing.

My guess is you're Filipino or you lost money or like Roger Mayweather says, "You don't know shit about boxing."

I'm embarrassing myself cuz I bet correctly and yet had Pacquiao winning? Listen, I would bet that you probably don't know how to score boxing without looking up how to do so on the internet. Thinking a fighter won isn't enough pal. I've been doing this shit for 30+ years and while I think Pacquiao won the fight, I also think it was much closer than what people are claiming so giving a couple of the closer rounds to Bradley is all it takes. Also, for the record, Marquez beat Pacquiao without a doubt in the last fight and probably one of the others.

The reason the same judges generally do the big fights is because in Vegas, they provide the judges, which is a helluva lot more fair than what is the norm, which is to have the sanctioning body provide them! Also, just how many qualified boxing judges do you think there are in Las Vegas? Since most judges don't make a living from the sport alone, not many.

Teddy Atlas is no fraud but he's been known, as I definitely have, to be wrong more than once.

matt1216 · 06-10-12, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by John953

bradley picked him apart all 12 rounds what were u guys watching

Fck rights he did i had mone on Bradley +410 Bradley owned Pacman

Jesus Christ · 06-10-12, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by AraiWa

My guess is you're Filipino or you lost money or like Roger Mayweather says, "You don't know shit about boxing."

I'm embarrassing myself cuz I bet correctly and yet had Pacquiao winning? Listen, I would bet that you probably don't know how to score boxing without looking up how to do so on the internet. Thinking a fighter won isn't enough pal. I've been doing this shit for 30+ years and while I think Pacquiao won the fight, I also think it was much closer than what people are claiming so giving a couple of the closer rounds to Bradley is all it takes. Also, for the record, Marquez beat Pacquiao without a doubt in the last fight and probably one of the others.

The reason the same judges generally do the big fights is because in Vegas, they provide the judges, which is a helluva lot more fair than what is the norm, which is to have the sanctioning body provide them! Also, just how many qualified boxing judges do you think there are in Las Vegas? Since most judges don't make a living from the sport alone, not many.

Teddy Atlas is no fraud but he's been known, as I definitely have, to be wrong more than once.

Never post again....please.

MUHerd37 · 06-10-12, 01:24 AM

I hope the UFC never fights in Nevada again. I also hope the big time boxers refuse to fight in Nevada again. That would do big time damage to the economy there and force the state to do something.

AraiWa · 06-10-12, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by GoldRush7

Is there even a remote chance that the Nevada State athletic commission investigates this?

Doubtful. If anything they might bring the judges in to their office and have them watch and score the fight again to see how they came about their score. But in all likelihood, nothing is going to happen because of this. If they want to fight in Vegas they're stuck using Vegas judges, not WBO judges. Not only that, the LVSAC is the one who approves these judges so to publicly degrade their decision is unlikely.

Ron29301 · 06-10-12, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by matt1216

Fck rights he did i had mone on Bradley +410 Bradley owned Pacman

Matt we won.

Jesus Christ · 06-10-12, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by MUHerd37

I hope the UFC never fights in Nevada again. I also hope the big time boxers refuse to fight in Nevada again. That would do big time damage to the economy there and force the state to do something.

Eh if underdogs still agree to fight in Texas I'm sure people will still agree to fight in Vegas...but I agree this decision is fishy as **** since all 3 score cards were all over the place.

AraiWa · 06-10-12, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by Jesus Christ

Never post again....please.

Jesus Christ · 06-10-12, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by AraiWa

I've been doing this just as long as you...I post my plays and you can see that Manny winning that dec meant nothing to me and I'm not Filipino.....but Manny won this fight going away.

AraiWa · 06-10-12, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by Jesus Christ

Eh if underdogs still agree to fight in Texas I'm sure people will still agree to fight in Vegas...but I agree this decision is fishy as **** since all 3 score cards were all over the place.

How were all three scores all over the place when two were exactly the same?!

Originally posted by Jesus Christ

I've been doing this just as long as you...I post my plays and you can see that Manny winning that dec meant nothing to me and I'm not Filipino.....but Manny won this fight going away.

You're entitled to your opinion.

So by "THIS" do you mean gambling or working in the sport?

Jesus Christ · 06-10-12, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by AraiWa

How were all three scores all over the place when two were exactly the same?!

You're entitled to your opinion.

So by "THIS" do you mean gambling or working in the sport?

ummmmmmm...the two Bradley cards were completely different

cankid · 06-10-12, 01:38 AM

thx for the scorecards, took a chance on bradley and the draw for giggles, i won but im not laughing, we re all for the most part sports fans, can't imagine all these athletes go through to get to their peak conditioning and a result like that is a travesty of sports for the boxers, organizers and fans, UFC and Dana White has to be liking this

MexicanStallion · 06-10-12, 01:39 AM

Wow what a thread. Glad I didn't have any sense to lay anything on this for any parlays. Sorry to hear the fight was rigged to this event.

Ron29301 · 06-10-12, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by Jesus Christ

Eh if underdogs still agree to fight in Texas I'm sure people will still agree to fight in Vegas...but I agree this decision is fishy as **** since all 3 score cards were all over the place.

I was hoping for a 12 round draw so that I could capitalize. Oh well. But yeah Bradley was stumbling all over the place after some good power punches from Pac man.

stuck621 · 06-10-12, 01:43 AM

SBR needs to look into this pronto

Demonata · 06-10-12, 01:43 AM

Never betting boxing again. Was rigged. Clearly saw it. That's like the refs deciding Boston won tonight even though Miami scored more points. Boxing is rediculous and as fake as WWF nowadays. Just bet UFC for fighting.At leats they usually end in a tapout etc.

AraiWa · 06-10-12, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by Jesus Christ

ummmmmmm...the two Bradley cards were completely different

I meant the finally tally. Rounds 1, 2 and 9 are different. I had Pacquiao winning the 1st and 9th. IMO those three rounds were close, nothing more. I had Bradley winning rounds 2, 6,10, 11 and the 12th. When you get people who can't agree on the rounds, what do you expect!? Fights are judged round by round so obviously if the rounds are viewed differently, there just might be a decision that doesn't jive with your own. Nonetheless, my final score card total was the same as Jerry Roth's.

AraiWa · 06-10-12, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by Demonata

Never betting boxing again. Was rigged. Clearly saw it. That's like the refs deciding Boston won tonight even though Miami scored more points. Boxing is rediculous and as fake as WWF nowadays. Just bet UFC for fighting.At leats they usually end in a tapout etc.

Tell Pacquiao and Bradley how it's as fake as the WWF. If you said that to any of my guys they might just give you a smack like several wrestlers have done in the past.

coop · 06-10-12, 01:50 AM

So AraiWa, are you saying it wasn't rigged and that it was just sh*tty scorekeeping by the judges?

Jesus Christ · 06-10-12, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by AraiWa

I meant the finally tally. Rounds 1, 2 and 9 are different. I had Pacquiao winning the 1st and 9th. IMO those three rounds were close, nothing more. I had Bradley winning rounds 2, 6,10, 11 and the 12th. When you get people who can't agree on the rounds, what do you expect!? Fights are judged round by round so obviously if the rounds are viewed differently, there just might be a decision that doesn't jive with your own. Nonetheless, my final score card total was the same as Jerry Roth's.

I know what you're saying but the busier fighter shouldn't be rewarded if he's not effective...this is Leonard Garcia(MMA)/Paul Williams type dec...and I love Paul..he's my favorite boxer.

The Giant · 06-10-12, 01:57 AM

Boxing definitely needs a commissioner.

There is only one man that I can think of that can regulate this sport and make sure only fairness ensues.

That man is David Stern.

Demonata · 06-10-12, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by AraiWa

Tell Pacquiao and Bradley how it's as fake as the WWF. If you said that to any of my guys they might just give you a smack like several wrestlers have done in the past.

Like a player is going to admit a fight is rigged. It was rigged and everyone clearly knows it.

AraiWa · 06-10-12, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by Jesus Christ

I know what you're saying but the busier fighter shouldn't be rewarded if he's not effective...this is Leonard Garcia(MMA)/Paul Williams type dec...and I love Paul..he's my favorite boxer.

Have you ever seen Pacquiao miss so many punches? I don't give a shite about HBO's punchstat numbers-they're prone to human error. Bradley didn't win on my scorecard but I think he was busier in the last half of the fight and made Pacquiao miss. After about the 5th round, Pacquiao slowed down and wasn't hurting Bradley. Also, while some say Bradley was flopping around the ring, I think he was bobbing and weaving quite a bit and when a guy is on you and you're doing this, keeping your balance gets more and more difficult. That said, while Pacquiao was on him, he missed an awful lot of his punches.

Solid punches
Ring generalship
Defense
Effective aggression

I just don't think it is the robbery that some people do. I will however, watch the fight over and over again and see how many times my score is the same.

As far as being rigged; first learn how to judge the sport by it's rules. Second, and most importantly, the judges don't think it's rigged and that's what's most important. If you have ever been in a locker room or behind the scenes at a big fight, you would know that in the days preceding the fight, the judges generally do not talk to the fighters or their team. Also, the promoter almost always has someone taking care of them, making sure that they know where they're being put up, where their dressing room is, etc. My point is that promoters do not have much interaction with the judges. There are ways around this of course but it's not as easy or simple as people think.

Last but not least, fixes are not like is shown in the movies. That is, "you're going down in the third Rocky," or "Take care of my boxer here and I'll throw in an extra $50K for your effort.

When a sanctioning body provides the judges, the judges know good and well who the promoter's fighter is. If they want to get more appointments as a judge for their region, they tend to vote close rounds for the champion or house fighter. This is not how it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be red corner and blue corner, no nationalities, no favorites, etc.

But since the Las Vegas judges are in question, one would wonder, if they are on the take, is it because they have a runner betting for them or ?

Jesus Christ · 06-10-12, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by AraiWa

Have you ever seen Pacquiao miss so many punches? I don't give a shite about HBO's punchstat numbers-they're prone to human error. Bradley didn't win on my scorecard but I think he was busier in the last half of the fight and made Pacquiao miss. After about the 5th round, Pacquiao slowed down and wasn't hurting Bradley. Also, while some say Bradley was flopping around the ring, I think he was bobbing and weaving quite a bit and when a guy is on you and you're doing this, keeping your balance gets more and more difficult. That said, while Pacquiao was on him, he missed an awful lot of his punches.

Solid punches
Ring generalship
Defense
Effective aggression

I just don't think it is the robbery that some people do. I will however, watch the fight over and over again and see how many times my score is the same.

You're entitled to your opinion..I had it 118-110 first view, second view 117-111..I just don't see any conceivable way Bradley won 7 rounds but I've said that so many times with this sport..I said the same thing after the Abril/Rios fight.

GunShard · 06-10-12, 02:10 AM

MMA is better, lol.

Jesus Christ · 06-10-12, 02:10 AM

and I apologize for my first comment...I really thought you were trolling but you are clearly not and have knowledge of boxing...and you def have the right to think Bradley won even though I don't see it as possible.

ApricotSinner32 · 06-10-12, 02:11 AM

Rios still trying to convince people he beat abril on youtube its hilarious. ******* chump