Lebron's legacy at stake on Thursday?

JerseyRobby · 06-06-12, 03:57 AM

LeBron's legacy isn't at stake yet because if he wins a few championships in the next few years they will forget this year. Look at Dirk when Dallas lost to Miami in 2006 when everybody said he was soft after that series and couldn't win the big one. We all know what happened last year.

PAYTON20 · 06-06-12, 05:30 AM

yes it is at stake

at some point all the excuses need to stop and Lebron needs to "just win baby"

don't care about any excuses, win or go home and take the criticism and jokes like a man

I don't know what it is, if he's scared? But where was he in the Final 3 minutes? He did nothing. On top of that Pierce drills a crucial 3 pointer right in his eye. I think the guy gets nervous down the stretch. it looks to me as if he's playing nervous, not being aggressive. Scared to get fouled and shoot FTs??

jjgold · 06-06-12, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Who else do you want Lebron to have to get him a ring? Should the Heat get Chris Paul and Dwight Howard too?

Dam, he's got Wade a top 5 player and Bosh a top 15 (arguably top 10). What other team in the history of basketball had 3 of the top 15 players in the league? Stop with the excuses. Jordan and Bryant didn't have 2 superstar sidekicks.

This is basketball. You don't need a deep bench in crunch time. Who steps up for the Heat in crunch time? Wade? not tonight. Lebron? not in the final minute. Unfortunately for the Heat when the going get's tough Lebron get's going and his teammates can't deliver. Any other superstar, like Jordan or Kobe would have taken over that game in the last 2 minutes. Who can the Heat rely on? Who knows? Pierce struggled most of the game but come crunch time he stepped up.

Wade is not even a top 15 player anymore that is where people are wrong

He is overrated

PAYTON20 · 06-06-12, 05:38 AM

Lebron and Wade combined doesn't make for the best basketball chemistry wise. They almost take away from each other's games. Miami needs to trade Wade ASAP before his stock drops any lower

PAYTON20 · 06-06-12, 05:56 AM

Stephen A Rips Lebron. Totally agree with everything said in this video:

SlickRick1382 · 06-06-12, 06:33 AM

Originally posted by rm18

Lebron played great tonight everyone wants to take shots at him, he even gets criticized for losing his hair when Jordan, Durant, and Kobe all have worse hair loss than him

Played great and then had 2 points the final 8 minutes which was on an uncontested layup.

Normally great players score 2 points in the final 8 minutes of a crucial game. you're right ...

NYSportsGuy210 · 06-06-12, 07:15 AM

Veteran teams with superstars beat up on the Heat. Its just that simple.

SBR Lou · 06-06-12, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by rm18

Warriors: Webber/Mullin/Sprewell(did not win)
Warriors: Hardaway/Mullin/Richmond(did not win)

You realize how absolutely ridiculous the Lebron James excuse machinery is when Latrell freaking Sprewell's name is mentioned in the discussion. OMG.

He decided to "take his talents to South Beach" to play with the other two "superstars". This was the super team ---- now the team isn't good enough and he needs more help?

SBR Lou · 06-06-12, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by PAYTON20

I think the guy gets nervous down the stretch. it looks to me as if he's playing nervous, not being aggressive. Scared to get fouled and shoot FTs??

Sharp post.

BlacK_HazE · 06-06-12, 08:14 AM

Considering the dude is only 27 years old and hasn't even played half of his career I would have to disagree. You never know what could happen in basketball, ( I know it wont happen) but lets just say he goes on to win the next 5 titles, what would you say then? It's ridiculous how much this dude is put under a microscope. At the end of the day, if we lose this series Lebron is the last person you could blame. He has basically been a walking triple double this entire post-season. People ignore the bench has played like crap, we played without bosh pretty much the entire series, and Wade has been horrible. You can't judge a players legacy based off there first half of there career..

chico2663 · 06-06-12, 08:37 AM

pippen sucked. without mike ; we wouldn't even have heard of him. Houston gave him a shitload of money. the only thing he did was get a dui with his asian hooker. He went to portland and didn't do shit. Although pippen and lebron have one thing in common. They couldn't do shit when the game was on the line. Think kobe had it right when he said lebron doesn't want the ball at the end of ther game!

chico2663 · 06-06-12, 08:38 AM

he got to play lebum!

Mac4Lyfe · 06-06-12, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Wade is not even a top 15 player anymore that is where people are wrong

He is overrated

Wade ended #3 in total efficiency rating (the best measurement of total performance) for the season. He was #2 most of the season behind Lebron. Yes he's getting older but he still was ahead of Durant, Kobe and Rose.

Mac4Lyfe · 06-06-12, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by BlacK_HazE

Considering the dude is only 27 years old and hasn't even played half of his career I would have to disagree. You never know what could happen in basketball, ( I know it wont happen) but lets just say he goes on to win the next 5 titles, what would you say then? It's ridiculous how much this dude is put under a microscope. At the end of the day, if we lose this series Lebron is the last person you could blame. He has basically been a walking triple double this entire post-season. People ignore the bench has played like crap, we played without bosh pretty much the entire series, and Wade has been horrible. You can't judge a players legacy based off there first half of there career..

I created a post a few years ago saying that Cleveland should have considered trading Lebum. Folks said I was out of my mind but Lebron creates a black hole for his teammates where they can't perform in crunch time. He's a PF trying to play PG and in crunch time he can't deliver. All that dribble, dribble, dribble, drain clock, dribble, then jack a jumpshot or pass to a teammate with no time on the clock sets his team up for failure. Lebron plays awesome for 3.5 quarters than turns into a magician and disappears in the end. Why do you think everyone of his teammates have shrunk around him?

I don't agree that he's just 27 and has plenty of time left. Lebron has a lot of wear and tear on his tires. He's played basketball year round for a long time now. He will be going into decline very soon. The problem with him is that his game style will not play well once he ages. He's power, force, speed and strength, the things that go as you get older. Once Lebron loses a step will he be able to fall back on a jumper like Jordan or Kobe? Can he rely on his basketball IQ? Hell no. How about his mental fortitude? Haha. An older Lebron is going to look real ugly.

InTheDrink · 06-06-12, 09:00 AM

why do people still automatically assume that he's going to win multiple titles....or even one title?

i could see people thinking that when the shitty cavs were rolling thru the league until the playoffs but not after two potential failures in south beach

newsflash: it's pretty fukkin hard to win a title....just ask barkley, malone, ewing, etc. that just shows how amazing jordan, kobe, shaq, duncan, etc. are.

jsmithj88 · 06-06-12, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

I created a post a few years ago saying that Cleveland should have considered trading Lebum. Folks said I was out of my mind but Lebron creates a black hole for his teammates where they can't perform in crunch time. He's a PF trying to play PG and in crunch time he can't deliver. All that dribble, dribble, dribble, drain clock, dribble, then jack a jumpshot or pass to a teammate with no time on the clock sets his team up for failure. Lebron plays awesome for 3.5 quarters than turns into a magician and disappears in the end. Why do you think everyone of his teammates have shrunk around him?

I don't agree that he's just 27 and has plenty of time left. Lebron has a lot of wear and tear on his tires. He's played basketball year round for a long time now. He will be going into decline very soon. The problem with him is that his game style will not play well once he ages. He's power, force, speed and strength, the things that go as you get older. Once Lebron loses a step will he be able to fall back on a jumper like Jordan or Kobe? Can he rely on his basketball IQ? Hell no. How about his mental fortitude? Haha. An older Lebron is going to look real ugly.

r u describing kobe possession or a lebron possession?
dribble dribble dribble, take a contested shot = kobe
granted, he makes them once in a while ............
i dunno y u call lebron a blackhole, he actually passes a lot of the times

i disagree, i think u are underrating his bball IQ.
he gets open looks for his teammates on offense and is prolly the best defender in the nba
to be great doing those 2 things, u have to have a high bball IQ

lebrons issues have been the same the last couple years
scoring at the end of games and hitting his FT's

polishkielbasa10 · 06-06-12, 09:26 AM

Jabron has no Heart, not a lot to say about that...and not a big list of champions who won a ring w/o it

thetrinity · 06-06-12, 09:27 AM

legacy aint on the line, coach dweebies job will be on the line thursday and saturday if it gets that far. hes gota be the first head to roll on the heatles. dan gilbert looks like hes gona be a step closer on his prophecy. celtics clearly wanted to win the game more last night, the way they were flying around in the 4th quarter 2 lose balls. only one real hustle play i recall from the heat was when wade went flying in for the board from 3 point range.

Mac4Lyfe · 06-06-12, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by jsmithj88

i disagree, i think u are underrating his bball IQ.

lebrons issues have been the same the last couple years
scoring at the end of games and hitting his FT's

Then why does all of Lebron's teammates shrink in the playoffs? This is not an anomaly. Every year, he disappears and his teammates can't step up. He's the best player in the league but then in crunch time he's the worst player in the league???

Lebron shows ultimate confidence for 3 quarters. Laughing, clowning, dancing, but then utterly goes into a shell in crunch time. Year after year when the going gets tough, Lebron can't handle it. His teammates rely on him for the entire season but in the moment of truth, he can't step up. He can't deliver the goods. He can't hit the last shot. He shudders at the thought of shooting last second free throws so much that he doesn't even want to touch the ball in the end. It's his fatal flaw. Play like an MVP player for most of the game then absolutely disappear in the end and expect teammates to step up when they were standing around watching his greatness for 3 quarters.