If you THINK 2012 Presidential Election will be a Landslide :: Think again

[Sam Odom]

before anyone jumps on this as propaganda... Consider

Sammy believes a fair line as of NOW is Obama -150 to win

Also... This map is from the New York Times

[Easy-Rider 66]

Really think Romney take this. Now that the nomination fight is over, he can start the process of getting the Independents in his corner. Obama is in a weak position.

[Sam Odom]

Really think Romney take this.

Hard to say but I understand your sentiments - IMHO , Romney wins Fla & Colo from the map above

[d2bets]

Not so sure about NC in the leaning Romney column. Seems more like a tossup. And PA and WI are leaning Obama at the very least.

[Sam Odom]

Dem convention in N.Car could be a blessing or a curse for Obama... DNC needs to remove most of the talk over fringe planks. Like when the boy scouts were booed a few years back

[thetrinity]

hard to see romney winning any of the supposed toss ups besides florida. calling pa a tossup is very generous.

[PAULYPOKER]

RACIST for criticizing Obama.

TERRORIST if your not with Bush.

ANTISEMITIC for not supporting Rothschild Zionism.

TEABAGGER for supporting the Constitution.

TRUTH-ER for asking unanswered questions.

TRAITOR for whistle-blowing on the corrupt Government.

CONSPIRACY THEORIST for presenting documented facts.

TROLL for uploading news, videos, quotes and U.S.Atrocities.

ANTI-AMERICAN for supporting Constitutionalists like Dr. Ron Paul.

[GunShard]

There are smart voters and stupid voters.
The smart voters will vote on political reasons.
The stupid voters will vote for a person's personality and ignore the politics.
Obama might win because of the stupid voters. The smart voters are split between Obama and Romney.

[19th Hole]

RACIST for criticizing Obama.

TERRORIST if your not with Bush.

ANTISEMITIC for not supporting Rothschild Zionism.

TEABAGGER for supporting the Constitution.

TRUTH-ER for asking unanswered questions.

TRAITOR for whistle-blowing on the corrupt Government.

CONSPIRACY THEORIST for presenting documented facts.

TROLL for uploading news, videos, quotes and U.S.Atrocities.

ANTI-AMERICAN for supporting Constitutionalists like Dr. Ron Paul.

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So you're a RTATTTCTTAAer and we didn't even know it?

[19th Hole]

And the wnner is......











The oligarchy that owns BOTH candidates.

[Tully Mars 63]

I don't see Obama losing PA or Ohio, Florida probably a loss but he doesn't need it.

On a side note I can't believe Sam use info from the NYT, thought you guys hated that liberal rag.

[LVHerbie]

I don't see Obama losing PA or Ohio, Florida probably a loss but he doesn't need it.

On a side note I can't believe Sam use info from the NYT, thought you guys hated that liberal rag.

Just the flavor of the week type of thing when you just search for stuff that only backs up your view point...

Personally I'm not so positive about Ohio but I would add Colorado, Nevada, and Wisconsin to the states where there is at least a strong lean to Obama and some recent polls even had Obama actually slightly leading in Missouri so not sure why they would include it as leaning towards Romney and not at least in their neutral classification...

[Tully Mars 63]

Just the flavor of the week type of thing when you just search for stuff that only backs up your view point...

Personally I'm not so positive about Ohio but I would add Colorado, Nevada, and Wisconsin to the states where there is at least a strong lean to Obama and some recent polls even had Obama actually slightly leading in Missouri so not sure why they would include it as leaning towards Romney and not at least in their neutral classification...

Ohio is rust belt and the polls have been consistently Obama, he's currently only up about 4% but Romney's comments about firing people and let the auto industry go bankrupt will not play well there.

I agree with you on all but Colorado, think it's a real chance for Romney. Wisconsin seems to be pretty solid Obama which is odd because Walkers numbers are getting better. I would have thought if Walker pulled out a win Obama would drop but the latest polls show Walker and Obama gaining at the same time. I think the latest poll shows Obama up 8 pts and gaining.

Many of these states will come down to money (doesn't always?) and the super-pacs could change things dramatically.

[The Kraken]

Obama will appeal to moderates much more than Romney. These polls are junk.

[brooks85]

But if Obama's supporters hit the trail and tout his achievements as president, Clinton said he was confident "he'll be fine and he'll be re-elected."

now that is funny

[topgame85]

Put Virginia in Romney's column. Rockin' the red.

[Smoke]

Here in Ohio we decide the winner

And believe me its not that bully Romney

Obama 2012

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[Tully Mars 63]

I found this interesting-

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[Tully Mars 63]

Obvious cut and splice jobs at 24-25 and another around 45 seconds. Wonder what he really said?

[Mr KLC]

Here in Ohio we decide the winner

And believe me its not that bully Romney

Obama 2012

Rasmussen came out today with a new Ohio poll.

Romney 46%
Obama 44%

In the same breath, I'll say its way too early to depend on polls, but if this stays close, the edge will probably go to Romney with the 5% undecided. Undecideds almost always go against the incumbent.

[Tully Mars 63]

Undecideds almost always go against the incumbent.

That's true to the tune of about 80% historically.

[Dutch]

Who ever said anything about a landslide?

I don't think I've ever seen a Prez win in a landslide. Reagan maybe but I was 5 yrs old.

[thetrinity]

i think clinton won by a landslide over dole, he had over 370 electoral votes.

[thetrinity]

could almost say obama was a landslide in 08, he more then doubled mccain. 2-1 pretty much is a landslide.

[Mr KLC]

Who ever said anything about a landslide?

I don't think I've ever seen a Prez win in a landslide. Reagan maybe but I was 5 yrs old.

Clinton won a pretty sizable one in 1996. He didn't get over 50%, but Perot took over 8% of the vote that year.

[Tully Mars 63]

Yep and before that Nixon won with 520-

[Emily_Haines]

I would once like to see all these guys posting this non sense about Romney winning actually instead post a picture with a bet slip and a very large amount on it with Romney to win.

[thetrinity]

I would once like to see all these guys posting this non sense about Romney winning actually instead post a picture with a bet slip and a very large amount on it with Romney to win.

sam said he was going to bet on obama to win in a different thread. i question the validity of these maps myself, if people see blowouts they wont show up to vote. the huffington post map i posted wednesday was much more in favor of obama.

[thetrinity]

can you bet on who wins actual states instead of who gets the nomination? i havent seen any lines for that.

[Tully Mars 63]

can you bet on who wins actual states instead of who gets the nomination? i havent seen any lines for that.

There's only a handful of states that are really in play. I doubt you'll see anyone taking money against Mitt winning Texas or Obama winning NY. Might get lines on Florida, Ohio and few others but I haven't seen nor looked for them.

[thetrinity]

There's only a handful of states that are really in play. I doubt you'll see anyone taking money against Mitt winning Texas or Obama winning NY. Might get lines on Florida, Ohio and few others but I haven't seen nor looked for them.

ya i was more interested in the tossup type states, most of these are 100% decided already.

[Tully Mars 63]

I just looked and I think intrade has these but the amount of "shares" seems really limited.. like 6 at $5.65 for Ohio.

[Sam Odom]

Unemployment rises to 8.2% in May as job growth stalls again

ObamaCo are not even trying to 'spin' this terrible news

[Tully Mars 63]

Yeah Romney jumped big this morning on intrade.