Here's an interesting angle: The Hornets were playing to win and improve to the end there was no tanking going on. I think the NBA is very anti-tanking, has a team that obviously tanked ever won the lottery?
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What does tanking have to do with the league fixing the lottery?
Even the NBA execs know its was fixed
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In order to send show everyone that the league is anti-tanking the NBA may fix the lottery in favor of a team that wasn't tanking. What does tanking have to do with the league fixing the lottery?
Even the NBA execs know its was fixed
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nb...70SOQp8pA5nYcBComment -
Davis is overrated anyway.
People acting like they got shaq/duncan/lebronComment -
The league gets away with it because I think the worst team has a 25% chance to win, so far 4 of 23 worst teams have 'won'. are teams with pretty small chances usually. Not many times has the second or even 3rd worst team won if the first didnt. It has been these 4th and 5hth worst teams that get there, coincidentally teams that have had some sort of story associated with them during the year or recent past or imminent future.
Brooklyn doesnt need the pick because they will have the free agents all getting free passes there, and more than likely some back room deal to help them circumvent the luxury tax rules.
Jordon used up every bit of good will and favoritism when he got caught gambling ....'retired to go play baseball' and they let him back in the league. And for anyone who says 'he didnt bet on basketball' is a complete frigging idiot. The guy is a degenerate loser who couldnt win at anything so why wouldnt he bet something he had direct control over?
While some lotteries might be on the up and up these types here are clearly staged.
I also dont think that just because Orlando will lose howard they get the number one pick. Theyre just not a big enough deal. New Orleans was owned by the league had a lot of controversy with a lot of stuff not just the Chris Paul trade and then after a horrible lock out and tanking public confidence some clown buys this team after the league couldnt give it away. This all on the heels of that franchise moving from a dead zone city to a place that had the whole nation behind it after the hurricane.
Also if anyone doesnt think Miami was supposed to win that game last night doesnt have a clue either. I had to turn the TV off when these so called analysts actually sat there and said that Miami taking 47 free throws had no bearing on the game. ******* idiots. If Miami had made a few they probably wouldnt have had such a discrepancy but BECAUSE they missed so many refs had to keep blowing the whistle so they could get enough points. Thats when these types of things become blatantly obvious. Phantom calls and shit like that go unnoticed as long as team make the shots theyre given, but when they miss it just makes refs have to above and beyond to puch the team over the line. The no call on Rondo where he got mugged just put the spotlight on it. And no I didnt bet the game, I dont bet individual play off games because you never know who is supposed to win.Comment -
Was there something I missed in that video? What said it was rigged for sure? The fact that all the envelopes could have been NY's?Comment -
Do you follow the NBA? The Cavs had the highest attendance for several years in a row.They are top 5 in the last decade even without Lebron. Cleveland isn't a front running city like Miami.
Stern had to throw Gilbert a bone by giving him the #1 pick because he was going to raise a stink about player collusion. Hell Mark Cuban was in on it as well and you saw the Mavs win a title as well. Then you see the Chris Paul trade fiasco and NOH now gets the first pick. Its not about being a franchise city because Boston and LA don't need the top pick because they are desirable destinations for free agents. Its the teams that may contract that the league has to be careful of.Comment -
the fact they do this behind closed doors should bother everyone. if nothings shady going on, then do it on live tv and let us watch the balls come out. id rather this be fixed then actual games myself. ive never bought into the concept of we suck, we deserve the number 1 pick. it doesnt guarantee anything anyways.Comment -
OP,
Brilliant analysis. You convinced me. You and Brock Landers should be friends and make millions with your combined brilliance.Comment -
Lets have a dead pool on the lottery picksSBR Chris can put hours into the study
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Thats right there are 'free agent' cities and cities that HAVE to draft because no one in their right mind would move there as a choice. Although IMO New orleans is a city more free agents should find appealing, but for some reason they dont. But this one was all due to the new owner and the team trading away their 'franchise' player to a team it also looks like the league is trying to help out...the Clippers. Maybe Sterling has finally decided to be a 'team' player and he and Stern made some sort of bargain, probably because the Lakers are really in a mess now and Sterling was told Clippers would be pushed as the "it" team in LA for awhile ad not the Lakers.
But some cities need draft picks. Wait until Durant and those guys realize theyre in OKC and see how fast they leave, even if they do wi a championship in the next couple years. Thats actually gives them more reason to leave because they already did it in a small place.
Only superstar type guys who stayed in a small pond were Reggie Miller and Tim Duncan, and Miller came when it wasnt so chic to jump from a small team to go to a bigger one. Duncan is just a different kind of guy and having the best coach in the NBA isnt a bad thing either.
But you have teams like the Wizards, Bobcats, Pistons (despite their history), Milwaukee, T Wolves, Cavaliers, and Kings that no one is going to go to freely. Those cities or are severely depressed right how. There are also a few borderline cities that have had decent history but will eventually fall out of the free agent favorable arena, Atlanta Hawks, Utah Jazz, Phoenix Suns, Pacers, and probably Philly.
Then you have teams like Memphis, New Orleans, and Toronto which arent bad cities or even bad markets (in the grand scheme) but people dont want to go to those teams either.
So basically it comes down to Boston, LA, New York, Miami, Dallas as the golden areas of the league. New York is the most blatant none of those teams have won shit since they joined the league but they get guys going there all the time but once they show up they all forget how to play.
So there are obvious teams guys will go to as free agent and obvious teams that get a lucky draft pick but hve to watch him leave once his rookie deal is up to go to a better place. Thats why the new CBA is a joke there is still no guarantee these low level teams will be able to hold players, sure they can pay guys more money to come there but that still isnt enough.Comment -
[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]Comment -
The conspiracy theory goes along the lines of: The Knicks envelope was frozen before it was placed in the drum with the other envelopes so that when David fumbled around with the envelopes he was feeling for the frozen envelope and awarding Patrick Ewing to the Knicks.
I think everybody understands that a 25% chance of winning the first pick or a 35% chance of losing and getting the fourth pick the percentages dictate that tanking for the worst record is not in your best interest.Comment -
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It's all politics: Benson buys Hornets in light of the Saints bounty scandal. He will keep the team there and asked that Stern aid them in making it as competitive as the saints. Stern is relieved by selling team and appeasing the other owners.
Benson looks good.
Stern looks good.
New Orleans is happy.Comment -
who cares NBA can suck it.... college bball is where its atComment -
Those who are so dismissive of the possibility... I think it's worth noting several GMs and exec's predicted, before the draft, New Orleans would win it.
From hoopshype/yahoo sports:
"It's such a joke that the league made the new owners be at the lottery for the show," one high-ranking team executive told Yahoo! Sports. "The league still owns the Hornets. Ask their front office if new owners can make a trade right now. They can't. This is a joke."
The reaction of several league executives was part disgust, part resignation on Wednesday night.So many had predicted this happening, so many suspected that somehow, someway, the Hornets would walk away with Davis.
"I bet I could get my owner to tank if I knew the chance of getting the No. 1 pick was 100 percent," an NBA team president said in an email.Comment -
The lottery is rigged. They took Rose from the Heat and gave them Beasley. The Heat was the worst team and Bulls finished 16 games better than Miami. Coincidence that Rose went to his hometown city??? Oh well.....Heat got the big 3.
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there are about 5 teams that had a realistic chance to win where a conspiracy would be said. so the probably someone would think there was a conspiracy is higher than it wouldn't be.
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yep, and I can assure you that whichever team won, people would be screaming that the lottery was rigged.
Here's an article from someone who was there.[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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It's just a headscratcher..
New Orleans gets the first pick AGAIN?!!! An NBA owned(sort of) organization?!!
Could be a way of regulating a trade scenario like CP3 and preventing player collusion: being dishonest to keep everybody else honest..
The lakers trade would've almost assured the hornets a tank-free season and the lakers a championship. So the NBA sends paul to clippers which VASTLY improves the LA market and clippers organization, and the hornets tank; putting them in the #1 pick option spot again; where they pick AD. He'll play for a season and then the celtics will come calling and right when the deal is about to go through, the NBA steps in....
and sends him to the blazers.
Where he injures both of his knees and is thoroughly and completely useless
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Or Lebron going to Ohio???
Davis must have known weeks in advance he was going to be a Hornet...
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I know im gonna get attacked for this, but I think its Charlotte that actually won the lottery here.
Last time their GM had a second overall pick, he was hoping for the first pick to take the prized big man but instead settled with the also talented outside player.
When their owner came into the league, his work ethic and undying desire to win was passed up in favor of a big man.
It's been a LONG time since ive seen someone with the work ethic and the constant ability to stay at the top of his energy level for so long gifted with the athletic ability MKG has. Maybe Jordan can teach him a thing or two and Cho can coach him through a similar situation Durant faced regarding a transitional period with the city.
*This is all void if the Cavs find a way to land him. In which case id be ecstatic and the Bobcats would clearly lose in my eyes.Comment -
big surprise someone says the lottery is rigged after it happens. i mean that has to be the first time ever right?
i mean if you are going to take a huge chance and rig something as a commish, lets do the lottery,and the draft where there is maybe a 50/50 percent chance on how great players are going to be in the top 3 picks.
such a dur statement.
if they were going to stick their necks out to rig something, it would be something a-lot more applicable then the ******* lotteryComment -
So Hornets winning means its a consipiracy...
So Charlotte winning means its a conspiracy ...
So Brooklyn winning means it's a conspiracy
We've determined that we can make a case that 46.5% of the time, it's a conspiracy.
LMAO at conspiracy theorists.Comment -
link doesnt work this one does.....
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