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  • stevenash
    Moderator
    • 01-17-11
    • 65708

    #1
    Four matinee games this afternoon: Let's discuss them
    Kansas City (Chen) at Cleveland (Gomez)
    12:05 pm
    Cleveland (Gomez) -124

    I like Chen's stuff, I do, but I don't like his ERA (4.81)
    Pretty good, not great WH/IP ratio 1.28
    3-5 overall record
    Indians hit him 49 for 165, 7 homers off Chen as well.

    KC is a better road team (15-11) then Cleveland (15-13) at home

    Gomez is a good enough starter, 3.94 ERA and a tidy 1.17 WH/IP ratio.
    Slight edge to Gomez over Chen in the starting pitching department.
    Key for KC is for Gordon to get on hitting lead off, if he does, Butler and the middle could do some damage.
    If the Indian make shift line up can get Gomez some run support, he should earn the W

    Lean (don't trust the Tribe line up, and KC has the potential to light up a score board) but not playing, Cleveland.


    Oakland (Ross) at Minnesota (Liriano)
    1:10 pm
    Minnesota (Liriano) -117

    I'm running as far away as possible from this slop fest.
    Twins a 17 cent favorite? Wow, total disrespect to this Oakland squad.
    Oakland's line up is just as bad or worse than San Diego's line up, which is as bad a line up I've seen in years.

    You like gas cans? This game is for you.

    Liriano has a 8.47 ERA, has a WH/IP ratio of 2.07 !
    That's 2 base runners per inning, every inning he's on the mound.

    Tyson Ross has a 5.79 ERA with a 1.83 WH/IP ratio.
    I know starters with better ERA's than these two guys WH/IP's
    Both these pitchers should have their player union cards yanked with numbers like those.

    I wouldn't bet this game with a gun to my head.
    If you must bet this game, either seek help, or try the under 8.5
    Because when you see a game with two gas cans on the mound with pathetic hitters, the result is usually, not always goes under the posted total.

    Chicago White Sox (Quintana) at Tampa Bay (Cobb)
    1:10 pm
    Tampa Bay (Cobb) -136

    Both these starters I like, they are raw, but they are underrated.

    On May 7, Quintana had to come on to clean up Humber's mess as Humber was giving up 8 earned in 2 + innings, finished what Humber couldn't going 5+ strong, giving up 1 hit, 0 runs. White Sox almost pulled that game out.
    Quintana was so impressive he earned a start 5 days ago.
    Beat Cleveland, chucking six complete innings on 4 hits, allowing 2 earned.

    Quintana has earned his second start today

    Cobb I like too, this will be his third start of the year, all in the past 2 weeks, he's on a regular 5 day schedule now, won his first two starts, impressively I may add.
    Beat the Red Sox giving up 1 run, Braves giving up two runs, is durable, pitches 100 pitches a game.

    Strong lean to White Sox though, I really like Quintana, he's pitching for a big paycheck, has quality stuff, and won't finish what he starts, he'll probably go six, seven innings max, but I love Addison Reed as the White Sox new closer.

    Lean White Sox at + money here.

    San Diego Padres (Bass) at Chicago Cubs (Dempster)
    2:10 pm
    Chicago Cubs (Dempster) -124

    I like Bass, I like Dempster a little more.
    -124 on Dempster is enticing.
    Cubs bats are waking up, game is at Wrigley, and the Padres are a weak hitting team.

    Baas has decent numbers 3.55 ERA good 1.23 WH/IP ratio.
    Problem is, Padres can't score for him.

    Dempster is the best winless pitcher on the planet.
    That changes today
    0-3 sparkling 2.14 ERA, eye popping WH/IP ratio of 1.06

    Cubs bats are waking up, Cubs are at home, Cubs have the better line up (how often you hear that) and Cubs have the better starter.

    There's your play

    Cubs -124
  • ngates815
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-01-09
    • 13845

    #2
    No Call
    No Call
    Sox
    Cubs.


    Chicago.
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    • stevenash
      Moderator
      • 01-17-11
      • 65708

      #3
      ^
      Chicago/Chicago small parlay Gates?
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      • ngates815
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-01-09
        • 13845

        #4
        Originally posted by stevenash
        ^
        Chicago/Chicago small parlay Gates?

        Yesssssir
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        • Carseller4
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-22-09
          • 19627

          #5
          Wind blowing straight in today in Chicago.

          Dempster should be a fantasy stud today.
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          • milwaukee mike
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 08-22-07
            • 26914

            #6
            you guys realize landers is on the white sox and cubs right?

            that is way more important than any lean you might have
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            • Ez Money 77
              SBR MVP
              • 11-23-11
              • 2585

              #7
              I'm all over Cubs. Also bet tribe and Wsox.
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              • stevenash
                Moderator
                • 01-17-11
                • 65708

                #8
                Like I said:

                Tribe
                Under Twins
                White Sox
                Cubs

                If you had to bet all four, and I don't have to lol
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                • ngates815
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-01-09
                  • 13845

                  #9
                  Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                  you guys realize landers is on the white sox and cubs right?

                  that is way more important than any lean you might have


                  What you don't realize is that when I say the Chicago baseball teams will win, THEY DO! 87% on betting Chicago baseball this year.
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                  • ridims
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-15-10
                    • 3863

                    #10
                    Cubs bats are waking up? They faced a sp in Suppan who shouldn't even be starting for a AA team. Faced Stults who is better and is a lefty but still far from solid. They barely beat them yesterday and if it wasn't for Baker making some great snags at 1st on line drives with runners in scoring position then they would have lost. Cubs got lucky. If you watched the game you would have admit they dodged a loss.

                    Remember, the cubs also lost 12 in a row before this series. Yes. 12. And you still think they have a shot in a sweep/win today? You got to be kidding.

                    Quentin hit the ball hard yesterday. Look for some big numbers from him today and the padres to win one here.

                    At + money padres aren't exactly a great ball club but can hang with teams just as bad. Why everyone is thrilled to take Chicago today is to funny.

                    Good luck
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                    • ridims
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-15-10
                      • 3863

                      #11
                      Originally posted by stevenash

                      San Diego Padres (Bass) at Chicago Cubs (Dempster)
                      2:10 pm
                      Chicago Cubs (Dempster) -124

                      I like Bass, I like Dempster a little more.
                      -124 on Dempster is enticing.
                      Cubs bats are waking up, game is at Wrigley, and the Padres are a weak hitting team.

                      Baas has decent numbers 3.55 ERA good 1.23 WH/IP ratio.
                      Problem is, Padres can't score for him.

                      Dempster is the best winless pitcher on the planet.
                      That changes today
                      0-3 sparkling 2.14 ERA, eye popping WH/IP ratio of 1.06

                      Cubs bats are waking up, Cubs are at home, Cubs have the better line up (how often you hear that) and Cubs have the better starter.

                      There's your play

                      Cubs -124

                      The reason why Dempster is 0-3 is because Cubs can't score for him.

                      No big advantage either way.
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                      • bballs84
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-11-09
                        • 5461

                        #12
                        As 9-5 Out of 14 games against lefties with the over hitting.. Against righties couldn't be more opposite
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                        • BIGDAY
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 02-17-10
                          • 48245

                          #13
                          Nasher, Liriano might give up over 8 by himself.
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                          • milwaukee mike
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 08-22-07
                            • 26914

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ngates815
                            What you don't realize is that when I say the Chicago baseball teams will win, THEY DO! 87% on betting Chicago baseball this year.
                            gates you're good but nobody can offset the landers curse

                            he is more than 87% losers
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                            • ngates815
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-01-09
                              • 13845

                              #15
                              Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                              gates you're good but nobody can offset the landers curse

                              he is more than 87% losers

                              I just hedged with a 2 team parlay...Padres/Tampa.

                              I didn't realize Landers was that bad.
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                              • stevenash
                                Moderator
                                • 01-17-11
                                • 65708

                                #16
                                Originally posted by ridims
                                The reason why Dempster is 0-3 is because Cubs can't score for him.

                                No big advantage either way.
                                Padres can't score worse than the Cubs can't score.
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                                • djefferis
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-16-08
                                  • 1205

                                  #17
                                  Chen has looked like shit past 2 years, except when he pitches in cleveland. Guy owns the tribe hitters.

                                  On the opposite side, jenmar is looking good and has solid stuff. I'd take the under here for a double unit.

                                  Also taking all the home teams in the 4 afternoon games. Good chance of a 3-4 performance at least. Dog I like best are the chisox, if you must take a road team.
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65708

                                    #18
                                    ^
                                    I'm on the under of the Cleveland game.

                                    Those who like SD, I can respect that, however
                                    Dempster should sleep walk past this line up with the wind blowing sharply in.

                                    Venable CF
                                    Cabrera SS
                                    Alonso 1B
                                    Quentin LF
                                    Headley 3B
                                    Denorfia RF
                                    Hundley C
                                    Amarista 2B
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 65708

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by djefferis
                                      Also taking all the home teams in the 4 afternoon games. Good chance of a 3-4 performance at least. Dog I like best are the chisox, if you must take a road team.
                                      White Sox, after breaking the early games down again is the best play at + money
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                                      • jetsjets1028
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-10-10
                                        • 1234

                                        #20
                                        i say all the home teams only away team with a chance is the a's
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                                        • a4u2fear
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-29-10
                                          • 8147

                                          #21
                                          Nice write up Steve, playing cubs
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                                          • konck
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-17-06
                                            • 12554

                                            #22
                                            !st thing today if you need to get out Brock said the Cubs win Padres are a terrible team
                                            With that snab I bet the Dirty Pads hard you should also
                                            2nd Steve I think your way off on the Minny/Oak game i see money there The total is 8.5 the over is even
                                            Pound that over I think 8.5 could be a first 5 inning total in this game plus I love the public on the under here!
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                                            • konck
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-17-06
                                              • 12554

                                              #23
                                              An Brock had the White Sox be careful there
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                                              • cutchemist42
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 04-08-12
                                                • 737

                                                #24
                                                I'm on the A's ML at 2.08.
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                                                • ridims
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-15-10
                                                  • 3863

                                                  #25
                                                  Cubs are at home, ok so a 11-15 home record is respectable? advantage?? right.

                                                  Cubs with the better lineup? Not a big advantage here. And with Quentin back in the lineup now it gives a huge + for the padres.

                                                  Not a huge advantage with starting pitchers either. Dempster is better yes but Bass is no slouch.

                                                  Your reasoning for taking the cubs is funny as hell. Pay the juice. Pay it for a team that is almost identical in overall stats as the other.

                                                  Also - padres have a good hitting record against dempster. I'd side with that as a plus since many of the cubs haven't seen bass yet.

                                                  Good luck with Chicago pulling off a miracle win. You will need it.
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                                                  • ridims
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-15-10
                                                    • 3863

                                                    #26
                                                    and yes, idiot brock landers who has no clue about baseball is on the cubs. stake thru the hearts of cub backers. consider it a loss already.
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                                                    • CHR1S
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 05-20-12
                                                      • 106

                                                      #27
                                                      Not sure about the CHC. Cubs are 1-8 or something in Demps last 9 starts this year. Plus many of the Padres have his number and now they have Quentin from the soxs.

                                                      &not that it has relevance, but Dempster's start against the Padres last year he gave away a season high 9ER and they lost 9-2. But it was his last start of the season and the team might have checked out well before that time.

                                                      With all that being said I bet some of you are really tempted to cash on the sweep and Cubs turning things around but I would personally stay away from this one. Plenty of other quality games today.
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                                                      • stevenash
                                                        Moderator
                                                        • 01-17-11
                                                        • 65708

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ridims
                                                        Cubs are at home, ok so a 11-15 home record is respectable? advantage??
                                                        Padres ​5 - 18 on the road is respectable?
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                                                        • ridims
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-15-10
                                                          • 3863

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                                          Padres ​5 - 18 on the road is respectable?
                                                          3 more wins at home against the road teams record justifies an advantage? that home record where you should be waxing teams is awful.

                                                          come on man. you are making the cubs out to be like the dodgers at home. You are siding with a team that just lost 12 in a row. Expecting them to sweep a team that is just as bad as them.

                                                          i thought you had years of experience in mlb betting. This is a rookie play buddy. G'luck.
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                                                          • CHR1S
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 05-20-12
                                                            • 106

                                                            #30
                                                            The one value I do like in that game is SD/CHC Over 3.5 First 5 Innings. Dempsters gonna give at Least 2 and the 'hot' Cubs should manage to get 2 as well.
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                                                            • ridims
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-15-10
                                                              • 3863

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by CHR1S
                                                              The one value I do like in that game is SD/CHC Over 3.5 First 5 Innings. Dempsters gonna give at Least 2 and the 'hot' Cubs should manage to get 2 as well.
                                                              HOT CUBS??

                                                              Ok i'm done reading this nonsense. You guys must work for SBR. I can't believe what I read on here sometimes.
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                                                              • stevenash
                                                                Moderator
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 65708

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ridims
                                                                3 more wins at home against the road teams record justifies an advantage? that home record where you should be waxing teams is awful.

                                                                come on man. you are making the cubs out to be like the dodgers at home. You are siding with a team that just lost 12 in a row. Expecting them to sweep a team that is just as bad as them.

                                                                i thought you had years of experience in mlb betting. This is a rookie play buddy. G'luck.
                                                                I get it you are fading me on the Cubs, I can respect that.
                                                                Calling out my handicapping experience, is what I can't respect.
                                                                Guess what, I'm over it.

                                                                If Cubs with Dempster against a SD team that is 29 out of 30 in slugging, runs scored, 27th in OBA and 28th in batting average is square, that call me Squary McSquare.

                                                                How is SD beating Dempster with the wind blowing straight in? 8 singles?

                                                                If Cubs lose 2-1 no fault of Demster I can live with that.

                                                                If Demster gets shelled, you can find me right here taking all sorts of shit you can dish out
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                                                                • dudekid
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-08-09
                                                                  • 3200

                                                                  #33
                                                                  ridims chill out man, stevenash does a good job he is a solid capper and he's not putting a gun to your head telling you to play the cubs...he offers his insight and you can take it or leave it at that

                                                                  stevie im bummed to say that im against you with a couple picks, im on the royals and the rays...i saw you are on the under, im hoping for 4-3 royals so we both cash, cheers buddy
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    So hard to win early

                                                                    I lose and then have to dig out at night
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                                                                    • stevenash
                                                                      Moderator
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65708

                                                                      #35
                                                                      ^
                                                                      Go light in the day games JJ

                                                                      I got .5* under 8.5 Cleveland
                                                                      I got .5* under 8.5 Twins
                                                                      I got 1* White Sox
                                                                      I got 1* Cubs

                                                                      If I get swept, I barely feel it
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