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  • jeffdane
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-20-09
    • 5165

    #36
    Originally posted by brahmabull117
    I'm on dodgers again today, they've made me a ton of money this season so I'm not ready to back off them just yet



    I am not gonna play the Dodgers tomorrow though cause I think Greinke will probably win
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    • brahmabull117
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-08-10
      • 8622

      #37
      Originally posted by greenhippo
      Best pitcher in the majors playing for the best team in the NL at home to a 10-15 road team is now considered a coin flip?

      they should have won the last 2 games in the series too, the dodgers offense has been just awful in this series
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      • No coincidences
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-18-10
        • 76300

        #38
        Of all the times to not take the Dodgers, brahma says he's backing Milwaukee with Greinke on the bump.

        Might want to check out his home/road splits chief.
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        • brahmabull117
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-08-10
          • 8622

          #39
          Originally posted by No coincidences
          Of all the times to not take the Dodgers, brahma says he's backing Milwaukee with Greinke on the bump.

          Might want to check out his home/road splits chief.

          they have won 3 out of his 5 starts on the road though. I know he got crushed in 2 out of his 5 road starts but I can't back the Dodgers recently putrid lineup against a good pitcher
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          • ShogunRua
            SBR MVP
            • 12-23-09
            • 4668

            #40
            funny thread. surprised so many people didn't get the joke, but it made up for it by brah coming in here and backing the Dodgers.
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            • jeffdane
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-20-09
              • 5165

              #41
              Originally posted by andywend
              http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...-tomorrow.html, Post#5 when JeffDane talks about the bookies handing away free money when he advises betting on the Dodgers @ -105 on Monday night and not surprisingly they lose 3-2.

              He comes right back with the Dodgers @ -160 saying it should be LAD -400.JeffDane = Automatic Fade who can even take down the mighty Clayton Kershaw.
              this is my favorite
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              • remeedella
                SBR MVP
                • 04-17-12
                • 4089

                #42
                i dontgetit
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                • ShogunRua
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-23-09
                  • 4668

                  #43
                  Dodgers are indeed 'free money'.
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                  • oChRoNiCo
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-18-09
                    • 2984

                    #44
                    Originally posted by boeing power
                    My guess is that
                    he's joking

                    Nice value on Gallardo here.
                    Nice value on a guy who has a career record of 0-3 with an ERA of 6.54 cool story bro!
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                    • remeedella
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-17-12
                      • 4089

                      #45
                      Originally posted by ShogunRua
                      Dodgers are indeed 'free money'.
                      i feel like your in on this scam
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                      • Gndias
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-23-11
                        • 1607

                        #46
                        sh!t you guys are jinxing the damn series...
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                        • rumnblack
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 05-21-12
                          • 876

                          #47
                          BOL
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                          • Gndias
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-23-11
                            • 1607

                            #48
                            believe me,i need it...or i will be cleaning toilets soon...
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                            • BuddyBear
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 7233

                              #49
                              I follow the Brewers very closely. I listen to all their games on the radio and tonight won't be any different. So I believe I am better qualified than most people to speak about this game.

                              Putting aside the OP's original comments, I give a very small edge to LAD in the betting line. There are a couple of things going for them. 1) Kershaw, along with Cole Hammels IMO, is the best pitcher in baseball. His stuff is down a bit from last year but it is still at at a very elite level. Gallardo, who use to be among the pitching elites, is no longer a reliable starter. His BB/9 is out of this world (4.34). Almost 2 more BB this year than last year and nearly 1 BB more than his career. Plus, if you look at the advanced metrics, you see that he is down in virtually every meaningful category whether it be his first-pitch strikes, getting batters to swing and miss, etc... Now, you might ask, is Gallardo doing anything different this year compared with last year? And the answer is not really. He is still throwing his 3 main pitches (fastball, slider, and changeup) at the same rate he was last year. Just his stuff has not been good and he has been pitching with runners on base all the time. Now the upside for Gallardo is that he is starting to put together some pretty good starts in a row and he is not facing STL and he should regress back to his career numbers. But personally, I don't trust his stuff right now. 2) MILW is fielding an overall very poor lineup these days with a minor league catcher just called up (Martin Maldonado) and Nyger Morgan (who has amazingly 0 RBIs), Rickie Weeks (batting in the .150's), Cody Ransom (replacement level player), Carlos Gomez (a very weak offensive player), etc... In fact, I trust Gallardo with a bat more than 4 of those players I just mentioned. And while LAD is not fielding murder's row, they still have Loney, Kemp and Either a slightly better combination than Hart, Braun, and Ramirez.

                              Given the edge in pitching and hitting, I made LAD around -160 before it came out. Most of the sharp money is probably backing Gallardo, but I have not seen enough consistency in Gallardo's starts to back him over Kershaw on the road. I don't blame people if they like MILW tonight, but I just don't see it. Kershaw handles righties almost as well as he does lefties and that should neutralize Hart, Braun and Ramirez. Whereas Gallardo has weaker numbers against lefty hitters (i.e. Loney, Either, Abreu, Herrara, etc..).

                              I recommend a play on LAD on anything < -160 tonight.
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                              • Bluedragon
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-30-10
                                • 3484

                                #50
                                Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                I follow the Brewers very closely. I listen to all their games on the radio and tonight won't be any different. So I believe I am better qualified than most people to speak about this game.

                                Putting aside the OP's original comments, I give a very small edge to LAD in the betting line. There are a couple of things going for them. 1) Kershaw, along with Cole Hammels IMO, is the best pitcher in baseball. His stuff is down a bit from last year but it is still at at a very elite level. Gallardo, who use to be among the pitching elites, is no longer a reliable starter. His BB/9 is out of this world (4.34). Almost 2 more BB this year than last year and nearly 1 BB more than his career. Plus, if you look at the advanced metrics, you see that he is down in virtually every meaningful category whether it be his first-pitch strikes, getting batters to swing and miss, etc... Now, you might ask, is Gallardo doing anything different this year compared with last year? And the answer is not really. He is still throwing his 3 main pitches (fastball, slider, and changeup) at the same rate he was last year. Just his stuff has not been good and he has been pitching with runners on base all the time. Now the upside for Gallardo is that he is starting to put together some pretty good starts in a row and he is not facing STL and he should regress back to his career numbers. But personally, I don't trust his stuff right now. 2) MILW is fielding an overall very poor lineup these days with a minor league catcher just called up (Martin Maldonado) and Nyger Morgan (who has amazingly 0 RBIs), Rickie Weeks (batting in the .150's), Cody Ransom (replacement level player), Carlos Gomez (a very weak offensive player), etc... In fact, I trust Gallardo with a bat more than 4 of those players I just mentioned. And while LAD is not fielding murder's row, they still have Loney, Kemp and Either a slightly better combination than Hart, Braun, and Ramirez.

                                Given the edge in pitching and hitting, I made LAD around -160 before it came out. Most of the sharp money is probably backing Gallardo, but I have not seen enough consistency in Gallardo's starts to back him over Kershaw on the road. I don't blame people if they like MILW tonight, but I just don't see it. Kershaw handles righties almost as well as he does lefties and that should neutralize Hart, Braun and Ramirez. Whereas Gallardo has weaker numbers against lefty hitters (i.e. Loney, Either, Abreu, Herrara, etc..).

                                I recommend a play on LAD on anything < -160 tonight.
                                straight droppin' knowledge yo. great writeup
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                                • jeffdane
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-20-09
                                  • 5165

                                  #51
                                  you got all that from listening to the games on the radio?

                                  i got all that but i just looked at 2 webpages.

                                  good luck if you bet, dodgers offense is just as bad, like you said.

                                  gallardo is in a groove right now. sure his bb's are up but his hits are down.
                                  last 4 starts: 25.1 IP, 6 ER, 2.15 era, 14 h, 14 bb, 1.11 whip
                                  15 ip 3 er last 2 starts vs LAD

                                  kershaw is also good, we dont need to debate that.

                                  -160 is too high, especially considering 85% on LAD.
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                                  • ChicagoCover
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 07-11-10
                                    • 661

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by andywend
                                    http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...-tomorrow.html, Post#5 when JeffDane talks about the bookies handing away free money when he advises betting on the Dodgers @ -105 on Monday night and not surprisingly they lose 3-2.

                                    He comes right back with the Dodgers @ -160 saying it should be LAD -400.JeffDane = Automatic Fade who can even take down the mighty Clayton Kershaw.
                                    Lol, agree
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                                    • ChicagoCover
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 07-11-10
                                      • 661

                                      #53
                                      I follow the Brewers very closely. I listen to all their games on the radio and tonight won't be any different. So I believe I am better qualified than most people to speak about this game.

                                      Putting aside the OP's original comments, I give a very small edge to LAD in the betting line. There are a couple of things going for them. 1) Kershaw, along with Cole Hammels IMO, is the best pitcher in baseball. His stuff is down a bit from last year but it is still at at a very elite level. Gallardo, who use to be among the pitching elites, is no longer a reliable starter. His BB/9 is out of this world (4.34). Almost 2 more BB this year than last year and nearly 1 BB more than his career. Plus, if you look at the advanced metrics, you see that he is down in virtually every meaningful category whether it be his first-pitch strikes, getting batters to swing and miss, etc... Now, you might ask, is Gallardo doing anything different this year compared with last year? And the answer is not really. He is still throwing his 3 main pitches (fastball, slider, and changeup) at the same rate he was last year. Just his stuff has not been good and he has been pitching with runners on base all the time. Now the upside for Gallardo is that he is starting to put together some pretty good starts in a row and he is not facing STL and he should regress back to his career numbers. But personally, I don't trust his stuff right now. 2) MILW is fielding an overall very poor lineup these days with a minor league catcher just called up (Martin Maldonado) and Nyger Morgan (who has amazingly 0 RBIs), Rickie Weeks (batting in the .150's), Cody Ransom (replacement level player), Carlos Gomez (a very weak offensive player), etc... In fact, I trust Gallardo with a bat more than 4 of those players I just mentioned. And while LAD is not fielding murder's row, they still have Loney, Kemp and Either a slightly better combination than Hart, Braun, and Ramirez.


                                      Given the edge in pitching and hitting, I made LAD around -160 before it came out. Most of the sharp money is probably backing Gallardo, but I have not seen enough consistency in Gallardo's starts to back him over Kershaw on the road. I don't blame people if they like MILW tonight, but I just don't see it. Kershaw handles righties almost as well as he does lefties and that should neutralize Hart, Braun and Ramirez. Whereas Gallardo has weaker numbers against lefty hitters (i.e. Loney, Either, Abreu, Herrara, etc..).


                                      I recommend a play on LAD on anything < -160 tonight.


                                      Awesome write up. I'll be giving you some coin
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                                      • BuddyBear
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 7233

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by jeffdane
                                        you got all that from listening to the games on the radio?

                                        i got all that but i just looked at 2 webpages.

                                        good luck if you bet, dodgers offense is just as bad, like you said.

                                        gallardo is in a groove right now. sure his bb's are up but his hits are down.
                                        last 4 starts: 25.1 IP, 6 ER, 2.15 era, 14 h, 14 bb, 1.11 whip
                                        15 ip 3 er last 2 starts vs LAD

                                        kershaw is also good, we dont need to debate that.

                                        -160 is too high, especially considering 85% on LAD.
                                        There was a game last year where the Brewers had won the first 3 games against the Dodgers and they were looking to sweep them at home in late August I remember. The Brewers were like 40-8 at home at the time, and like 7 games ahead in the division. Kershaw opened up as a small favorite in that game and I remember distinctly saying to myself, there is no way the Brewers are even going to touch Kershaw in this game....even as good as they were last year. Well, obviously, he shut them out over 8 innings. This time, better team (LAD) against a much weaker MILW team. I see Kershaw going 7 innings, 1 run, 8K, 2BB.
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                                        • Frank-King
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 05-25-12
                                          • 536

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by jeffdane
                                          you got all that from listening to the games on the radio?

                                          i got all that but i just looked at 2 webpages.

                                          good luck if you bet, dodgers offense is just as bad, like you said.

                                          gallardo is in a groove right now. sure his bb's are up but his hits are down.
                                          last 4 starts: 25.1 IP, 6 ER, 2.15 era, 14 h, 14 bb, 1.11 whip
                                          15 ip 3 er last 2 starts vs LAD

                                          kershaw is also good, we dont need to debate that.

                                          -160 is too high, especially considering 85% on LAD.
                                          The Dodgers offense has been very sub par but now they have Kemp in the lineup
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                                          • zoo youk
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-23-11
                                            • 10701

                                            #56
                                            sure looks like a coin flip to me....
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                                            • zoo youk
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-23-11
                                              • 10701

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by zoo youk
                                              they rank 3rd in NL in over all offense with 52 HRs and 198 RBI. but good luck laying your-160 on a coin flip.

                                              if you know anything about baseball you know Gallardo has the tools if his mind is in the game to be an elite pitcher. he shows plenty of flashes of it.
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                                              • BuddyBear
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 7233

                                                #58
                                                Well what can i say, Kershaw was awful tonight and I couldn't imagine the Brewers dominating him like they did tonight especially with Braun going 0-3 tnght. But that's the way baseball works.

                                                Anyway, for what it is worth, the Brewers in their history have never swept a series against the Dodgers (3 or 4 games). So you know what that means: Take Brewers tomorrow for the series sweep.
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                                                • paco
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 05-07-09
                                                  • 62873

                                                  #59
                                                  Lol...
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                                                  • boeing power
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-23-10
                                                    • 9698

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by oChRoNiCo
                                                    Nice value on a guy who has a career record of 0-3 with an ERA of 6.54 cool story bro!
                                                    This guy is quite possibly the dumbest prick on SBR.

                                                    I guess there was Great value on Gallardo at +150 moron
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                                                    • Dancemanmarc2
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 05-17-12
                                                      • 224

                                                      #61
                                                      Perhaps it was a thread just to accumulate points naughty naughty sir
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                                                      • ZetaPsi808
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-18-08
                                                        • 12119

                                                        #62
                                                        i wish i had seen this thread earlier.

                                                        i would have alerted you guys that 80% of the moneyline bets on this game were on dodgers moneyline and the line dropped 4 cents from opener to closer

                                                        brewers moneyline was a no brainer

                                                        nailed it for a fuking unit at +150

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                                                        • oChRoNiCo
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-18-09
                                                          • 2984

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by boeing power
                                                          This guy is quite possibly the dumbest prick on
                                                          SBR.

                                                          I guess there was Great value on Gallardo at +150 moron
                                                          You stupid **** I never said LAD was the right play I commented that you claiming great value was not correct which is still the case! The line was off you picked the correct side but there was NOT value in Milwaukee last night the line should have been closer to Milwaukee +175 Moron
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                                                          • brahmabull117
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-08-10
                                                            • 8622

                                                            #64
                                                            that's baseball for ya. The best pitcher with the best offense can lose 10-0 and nobody blinks
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                                                            • DudleyDawson
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-10-12
                                                              • 5658

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                                                              i wish i had seen this thread earlier.

                                                              i would have alerted you guys that 80% of the moneyline bets on this game were on dodgers moneyline and the line dropped 4 cents from opener to closer

                                                              brewers moneyline was a no brainer

                                                              nailed it for a fuking unit at +150

                                                              This is how I make most all my bets. I don't waste one second trying to "handicap"
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                                                              • brahmabull117
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 11-08-10
                                                                • 8622

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by DudleyDawson
                                                                This is how I make most all my bets. I don't waste one second trying to "handicap"

                                                                there are tons and tons of people who do that reverse money line bullcrap on this site and most of them don't do well at all. No coincidences, the ultimate reverse line movement king is down like 15 units for the season


                                                                The people who do well like Hawley and Acoochy just rely on "handicapping"
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                                                                • ebbearsfb1
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-07-08
                                                                  • 18815

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Dd line service or free site?
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                                                                  • ShogunRua
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-23-09
                                                                    • 4668

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                                    there are tons and tons of people who do that reverse money line bullcrap on this site and most of them don't do well at all. No coincidences, the ultimate reverse line movement king is down like 15 units for the season


                                                                    The people who do well like Hawley and Acoochy just rely on "handicapping"
                                                                    Hey Brah, why did you delete your entire spreadsheet after going on a losing streak and then put your Detroit pick in today like it was the first pick you've made? Thanks in advance.
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                                                                    • boeing power
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 03-23-10
                                                                      • 9698

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by oChRoNiCo
                                                                      You stupid **** I never said LAD was the right play I commented that you claiming great value was not correct which is still the case! The line was off you picked the correct side but there was NOT value in Milwaukee last night the line should have been closer to Milwaukee +175 Moron
                                                                      Go back to trolling the boys at SBR penny poker loser.

                                                                      Keep picking those -160 faves and you will go broke soon.

                                                                      After witnessing your failed MLB betting thread, you probably are.

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                                                                      • DudleyDawson
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 02-10-12
                                                                        • 5658

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                                        there are tons and tons of people who do that reverse money line bullcrap on this site and most of them don't do well at all. No coincidences, the ultimate reverse line movement king is down like 15 units for the season


                                                                        The people who do well like Hawley and Acoochy just rely on "handicapping"
                                                                        You have an opinion on everything. You must know everything!
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