I'll Have Another exactly what horse racing needed!

[opie1988]

What an awesome story. Horse sells for 35k wins the first 2 legs of the Triple Crown. Nobody gave him a shot in the Derby. Had to come from behind to beat the heavy favorite million-dollar horse Bodemeister in the Preakness.


For at least the next few weeks, horse racing is going to be big news again!!

Well done, I'll Have Another.
I'm a huge fan!

[ttwarrior1]

the horses still arent' as good this year. hell we couldn't even bet on this race in sbr book for exacta and trifecta.

We should start fantasy horse racing

[nomar122977]

i agree the sport needs a horse like this. one of the best 3 year olds in a very long time. i love a horse that doesnt get the respect and continues to win. WTG IHA !!!!!

[mikemca]

the horses still arent' as good this year. hell we couldn't even bet on this race in sbr book for exacta and trifecta.

We should start fantasy horse racing

I don't give a shyt about the points you can keep them its the point.In fact here is 20 more points for you since you're obviously a bum.I was one of the 3 people that paid.I won the fuggin league and I can't even get my points back from you when people questioned you holding the points from the beginning.


TTWARRIOR1 RUNS FANTASY LEAGUES AND KEEPS THE POINTS WHEN HE DOESN'T WIN

[CWD]

i agree the sport needs a horse like this. one of the best 3 year olds in a very long time. i love a horse that doesnt get the respect and continues to win. WTG IHA !!!!!

this is exactly what horse racing didn't need a bunch of people calling i have another "one of the best in a very long time" wow IMO this is turning into one shit crop of 3YO at the moment did you catch the rest of the field fukking 9 lengths back to creative cause that was embarassing

[jjgold]

Other than Hockey and golf might be the deadest sport in the usa

[Easy-Rider 66]

this is exactly what horse racing didn't need a bunch of people calling i have another "one of the best in a very long time" wow IMO this is turning into one shit crop of 3YO at the moment did you catch the rest of the field fukking 9 lengths back to creative cause that was embarassing

If IHA wins the Belmont, then he is a great horse imo. Does seem like a weak crop, but winning the triple crown would put in special company. I will most likely try to beat IHA in the Belmont, as he will probably go off at short odds.

[billysink]

Horse Racing has been dead for years. Cheats, horse doping, animal cruelty are not even the forefront of the nails in that coffin. These big races and all the glitz and glitter surrounding them are in now way representative of the industry and its self destructive nature.

[nomar122977]

dont be a sore loser guy!!!!!!

[nomar122977]

10 horse in the 13 th !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[CWD]

If IHA wins the Belmont, then he is a great horse imo. Does seem like a weak crop, but winning the triple crown would put in special company. I will most likely try to beat IHA in the Belmont, as he will probably go off at short odds.

i agree you have to give him his props if he wins he will go down as a great, as of right now though i'm not impressed with this crop one bit

and yeah everyone buying $2 win tickets for souvenirs could drive it down now is the time to look for tiring horses IMO going to be some hype on union rags whether or not it is deserved his supporters should start up in a couple weeks

[LT Profits]

Meh, IHA is nothing special. I would go against him in the Belmont just on principle alone because he doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as other triple crown winners. If he does pull it off, he would easily be the worst triple crown winner ever, not to mention the one that went off at the longest odds to win the Kentucky Derby and then win the next two legs.

[Easy-Rider 66]

Yeah, I prefer new shooters in the Belmont or least horses that did not run in the Preakness. War Emblem, Funny Cide, Smarty Jones, and Big Brown all came up short in the Belmont. I will take my chances that IHA does the same.

[Dark Horse]

Meh, IHA is nothing special. I would go against him in the Belmont just on principle alone because he doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as other triple crown winners. If he does pull it off, he would easily be the worst triple crown winner ever, not to mention the one that went off at the longest odds to win the Kentucky Derby and then win the next two legs.

Stick to what you know.

[LT Profits]

Stick to what you know.

Can you think of a worse Triple Crown winner if he does pull it off? This is a very weak 3YO crop this year. Funny Cide, Smarty Jones, and Big Brown were all mediocre horses (relative to past triple crown winners) that came up short in the Belmont and I think IHA is even a notch below those three.

[gafl]

Two of the biggest drug trainers run 1-2 in the Preakness. Not what racing needs.

[mikemca]

Big Brown and Smarty Jones weren't mediocre.At their peaks they were the two fastest Kentucky Derby/Preakness winners.In terms of longevity sure they aren't in the conversation with some others but just using the classics there aren't any horses that would have beat Big Brown in the Derby or Smarty in the Preakness the last 20 years and arguably not many in history.

If IHA wins the triple crown its hard to gauge him to past winners because all there is to go by is opinions.

[mikemca]

One of the biggest drug trainers has a chance at a triple crown. Not what racing needs.

Fixed it.Baffert and Pletcher win a lot but they get the best horses that are available.Then run on separate coasts against trainers that basically had the 10th and 11th pick in every draft after Baffert and Pletcher had the first 9 picks.

[str]

Fixed it.Baffert and Pletcher win a lot but they get the best horses that are available.Then run on separate coasts against trainers that basically had the 10th and 11th pick in every draft after Baffert and Pletcher had the first 9 picks.

Correct again Mike. The 1st nine picks come in the way of them getting ALL pertinent information on all yearlings well before ANY other trainer or owner does. This takes place at Keenland every Sept. as well as the other venues. If you guys think inside information is big around the race track, you haven't seen anything until you see what goes on at the Keenland yearling sales. Everyone wants Baffert to buy there nicest horses. And while I certainly get it, it is unbelievable to watch and understand.
I would have no problem saying that there are two guys in N.Y. that if given 1/2 the chance to train that many potentially top flight horses, they would reign supreme over the others including Baffert and Todd. No disrespect to those guys but when it comes to this, but I am certain about my opinion on this one.

[milwaukee mike]

what horse racing needs is white people to care about more than a couple races a year, which isn't going to happen even if IHA wins the triple crown.

50 years ago the only sports that mattered were baseball, boxing, and horse racing. quite sad that almost nobody cares about boxing and horse racing any more, but that isn't going to change back in my lifetime.

[milwaukee mike]

strange that affirmed (last triple crown winner) also won derby by 1 1/2 lengths and also won preakness by a neck.

11 horses since then have been "just what horse racing needed" and won the first 2 legs, and wouldn't you know?! - horse racing has still continued it's steady decline with or without any horses like big brown and smarty jones and barbaro.

only reason there's still more than a handful of tracks at all is slot machines.

[jjgold]

Horse Racing only big in UK , Asia and Aussie

[mikemca]

what horse racing needs is white people to care about more than a couple races a year, which isn't going to happen even if IHA wins the triple crown.

50 years ago the only sports that mattered were baseball, boxing, and horse racing. quite sad that almost nobody cares about boxing and horse racing any more, but that isn't going to change back in my lifetime.

Yeah it might be wishful thinking but the hope is people get excited when a horse wins/vies for a triple crown , then think "that was fun" and pay attention when the Haskell and Travers roll around for the same 3 year olds in the late summer.Then while their at it get introduced to the Arlington Million ,Saratoga Meet, etc....Then by next year they are playing nickel claimers at Assinoba Downs.Maybe a stretch but at least interested in the Graded Stakes cards that run just about every weekend.

It is probably a long shot but the result of the Preakness couldn't have been any better for attracting the 3 time a year handicapper who nailed the exacta.

[Dark Horse]

Can you think of a worse Triple Crown winner if he does pull it off? This is a very weak 3YO crop this year. Funny Cide, Smarty Jones, and Big Brown were all mediocre horses (relative to past triple crown winners) that came up short in the Belmont and I think IHA is even a notch below those three.

The general consensus is that this is a strong crop of 3 year olds. That was emphasized more before the Kentucky Derby, because by comparison the Preakness field was somewhat disappointing. But what happened upfront was incredible. The extra gear that IHA found on top of his extra gear, against a very strong speed horse (who had ran an ideal race)... What would you have said if Bodemeister had won both TC races?

Early Beyer for both IHA and Bode is 109. (are you looking at Beyers to compare, by any chance? That scale has been adjusted over the years.) Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, a so-so TC winner in this day and age doesn't exist. To pull that off is the stuff of legends. But he still has to do it... lol

[opie1988]

Yeah it might be wishful thinking but the hope is people get excited when a horse wins/vies for a triple crown , then think "that was fun" and pay attention when the Haskell and Travers roll around for the same 3 year olds in the late summer.Then while their at it get introduced to the Arlington Million ,Saratoga Meet, etc....Then by next year they are playing nickel claimers at Assinoba Downs.Maybe a stretch but at least interested in the Graded Stakes cards that run just about every weekend.

It is probably a long shot but the result of the Preakness couldn't have been any better for attracting the 3 time a year handicapper who nailed the exacta.

You're 100% correct. Regardless of how things used to be, having a shot at a Triple Crown winner is a wonderful thing for Horse Racing. While I agree it will never return to its "glory days" her in the US, who cares? The same can be said for just about every sport aside from the NFL.

I'll Have Another is a great story. Period.

[alling]

this is exactly what horse racing didn't need a bunch of people calling i have another "one of the best in a very long time" wow IMO this is turning into one shit crop of 3YO at the moment did you catch the rest of the field fukking 9 lengths back to creative cause that was embarassing

Based on your logic Secretariat beat the weakest triple crown field ever when he won the Belmont by 31 lengths.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

Union Rags could on I'll Have Another's parade. Long live Affirmed's record and last Triple Crown win 34 years ago. Stay tuned!

[str]

People will always get wrapped up in there own time period and call "their" era's new great achievement, the greatest ever.
When I see the younger guys talking about today's " greatest ever" Kobe, Jeter, Tiger, whatever, I don't want to argue but... I will rattle off, 60s and 70s names and feel completely justified. If my dad was still around, he would smirk ( as he did when I said this back then) and rattle off Ben Hogan, Ted Williams, or whatever and HE would feel completely justified. What this is, is the magic of sport and competition as we each grow up and live it. We each justify our today's greatest. It's what makes all of this so compelling no matter what age you are and no matter what sport we talk about.

[FuzzyDunlop]

Based on your logic Secretariat beat the weakest triple crown field ever when he won the Belmont by 31 lengths.

lolololol

[milwaukee mike]

People will always get wrapped up in there own time period and call "their" era's new great achievement, the greatest ever.
When I see the younger guys talking about today's " greatest ever" Kobe, Jeter, Tiger, whatever, I don't want to argue but... I will rattle off, 60s and 70s names and feel completely justified. If my dad was still around, he would smirk ( as he did when I said this back then) and rattle off Ben Hogan, Ted Williams, or whatever and HE would feel completely justified. What this is, is the magic of sport and competition as we each grow up and live it. We each justify our today's greatest. It's what makes all of this so compelling no matter what age you are and no matter what sport we talk about.

this is correct.
people always think prices should be around what they were as a teenager, and they think the athletes of their teenage years were better than any other generation.

so the young guys will say kobe/lebron are 2 of the best ever, guys my age will talk about jordan/dominique/hakeem/etc, and the old timers will say russell/chamberlain were the best ever.

you won't see a 60 year old argue with a 20 year old, and the 60 year old saying kobe is better than russell or vice versa

same with horse racing, a 20 year old will look at IHA (if the horse wins the belmont) and say it's one of the greats while the old timers will shrug their shoulders and say the competition sucked. even if the competition is the best crop of 3 year olds in a long time, it won't matter.

[CWD]

Based on your logic Secretariat beat the weakest triple crown field ever when he won the Belmont by 31 lengths.

plenty of horses that were supposed to be very talented put in terrible efforts in the derby and had no excuses. yesterdays a lot of people were saying there were only 2 horses you could bet with a straight face and that turned out to be true. so how is this a good 3YO crop? IMO it is weak.

[floridagolfer]

For at least the next few weeks, horse racing is going to be big news again!!

And that's a problem. The day after the Belmont, they'll run a full card of races and 3,000 people will show up.

If we could get people to care more than four or five times a year, then we'd have something.

[billysink]

Horse racing is in free fall. Death of it's own hand. Other than graded stakes all that will soon be left is local grass roots circuits.

Slots could not save the industry from itself. Greed, doping, race fixing, animal cruelty and an obese track takeout have killed the game.

The sport only exists as a money laundering function for organized crime and as an industry dependant on extremely expensive equine performance enhancers from the far east.

I could tell you stories about this game that would make your hair curl.

[nomar122977]

union rages wont even come close sorry

[Dark Horse]

And that's a problem. The day after the Belmont, they'll run a full card of races and 3,000 people will show up.

If we could get people to care more than four or five times a year, then we'd have something.

It's too disorganized. Horses should have to earn their way into a race, as in the Kentucky Derby, but as long as they continue to qualify they should be in a circuit, as in Formula One racing. The circuit would be a set number of G1 stakes races, and each horse would have to run in a minimum number of those races (unless injured). So you would always have the best horses racing against each other, and you would give the public time to get to know the horses. Something like that could be a start to get horse racing back on the map. It would create greater public interest, more media coverage, more advertising income, and more earnings for tracks and owners from that added income (so they have a reason to join the circuit). And the betting offer should be increased to include horse matchups; these type of bets mean that handicappers can almost always find value in a race, instead of spending a lot of time on a race only to have to walk away because it doesn't present value.