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  • SBR_John
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-12-05
    • 16471

    #1
    Give me some poker advice.
    It's been over a year. I've played thousands of hands in ring play. Last night guys were fighting each other to sit to my left, damn near a riot. Any advice to improve my game???
  • freeVICK
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-21-08
    • 7114

    #2
    All in everytime. cant you rig the game?
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    • tony_come
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-31-10
      • 21695

      #3
      Go all in
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      • TheMoneyShot
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 02-14-07
        • 28690

        #4
        Ring games... John... be honest... the cards seem to come out totally different in Tourneys to Ring Games? I suck at Ring Games. Where other guys get EXTREMELY HOT. If you don't have 4 of a kind... GTFO of the hand. For real.
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        • rm18
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-20-05
          • 22292

          #5
          call less

          if they check you bet
          they bet you raise
          they raise you go allin
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          • GUMMO77
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-23-10
            • 9294

            #6
            I remember sitting to your left
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            • TheMoneyShot
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 02-14-07
              • 28690

              #7
              RM - the book is out on you my friend... Kidding
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              • SBR_John
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-12-05
                • 16471

                #8
                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                Ring games... John... be honest... the cards seem to come out totally different in Tourneys to Ring Games? I suck at Ring Games. Where other guys get EXTREMELY HOT. If you don't have 4 of a kind... GTFO of the hand. For real.
                They are played differently. But yea, I do a lot better in tourneys. When I bluff guys tend to fold. In the ring games I constantly get sucked in and when I do win its usually small. Last night I was sitting with a mid pair and the river was the the 3rd club in a row, I bet $170 and Daneblazer called with a pair of queens. I'm thinking wtf?
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                • iifold
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-25-10
                  • 11111

                  #9
                  check raise them with nothing a couple times and show when it works...

                  you play with the same fukks so they will remember it forever and never forget it...

                  don't be anyone's friend, the worst thing a card player can ever do...

                  matter of fact, tell the ones that give you the most trouble that you think they are shitty posters...

                  follow these simple steps and you will double your win rate...
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                  • GUMMO77
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-23-10
                    • 9294

                    #10
                    This is just my opinion about your ring game, John: It's fine. I personally never know if you are strong or weak. If you want to improve on SBR (or any site for that matter) just take quick notes on the other players. Nothing big, just something where you know how they play. Some players in ring call pre flop a ton; some players call 80% of the flops holding junk; and some players only bet huge when they have a hand.

                    Other than that, you do pretty well.
                    and
                    Don't try to bluff Dane, the dude is an SBR shark.
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                    • k13
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-16-10
                      • 18130

                      #11
                      Don't bluff calling stations.
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                      • daneblazer
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 09-14-08
                        • 27862

                        #12
                        Sometimes people wanting to sit to your left is a compliment.
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                        • daneblazer
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 09-14-08
                          • 27862

                          #13
                          Originally posted by GUMMO77

                          Don't try to bluff Dane, the dude is an SBR shark.
                          I'm just a calling station. The bot I use is pretty sharp though.
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                          • thetrinity
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-25-11
                            • 22444

                            #14
                            try and do the opposite of what other players are doing
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                            • hels
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 04-12-09
                              • 8767

                              #15
                              Keep doing what you're doing
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                              • Roxxyfish
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 06-26-09
                                • 12066

                                #16
                                patience,,never chase,go not on tilt after a bad beat
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                                • iifold
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-25-10
                                  • 11111

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Roxxyfish
                                  patience,,never chase,go not on tilt after a bad beat
                                  Roxy you fukk...

                                  Give him a little credit...

                                  He isn't one of those geeks that come into a B&M with his hands trembling every time he reaches for chips...

                                  He has played before Pal...

                                  Unreal
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                                  • konck
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-17-06
                                    • 12554

                                    #18
                                    Dont play the fake accts that win 80% of the hands in a ring game
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                                    • BigDaddy
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-01-06
                                      • 8378

                                      #19
                                      you played fine during the time i played with you today

                                      you seemed to hold your own and raise when in position

                                      you got it all in good with like QQ vs 88 i think
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                                      • GUMMO77
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-23-10
                                        • 9294

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by konck
                                        Dont play the fake accts that win 80% of the hands in a ring game

                                        87.4%
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                                        • SBR_John
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-12-05
                                          • 16471

                                          #21
                                          Thanks BD. Shari has beat me up until today.


                                          Good advice ifold. Special thanks to Roxy and Gumm.

                                          I have noticed that ace & something small, like an A6 or K7 are costing me to stay for the flop. Even if an A or K hits on the flop, usually ends up being an expensive hand.

                                          What do you guys do with a K7 suited or a A6 suited preflop if you are playing a mid spot on the table and the first player or second player makes a modest raise? And what if the modest raise is re raised a modest amount so on a 2/4 table you are looking at 12 to call?
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                                          • ireland1946
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 01-20-10
                                            • 633

                                            #22
                                            John I think you looking for Magic Answers, I dont believe
                                            any of us can give the advice you looking for, Players that
                                            you play 1 day change things at times, I say stick with your
                                            Game and at times play with a Gutt feeling that another Player
                                            is bluffing and raise, there is quite a few Guys that like to bluff
                                            with Shit, and when they get away with it they even show their
                                            Hand, make a note of them and play them accordingly, GL
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                                            • Sam Odom
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-30-05
                                              • 58063

                                              #23
                                              Too many people make fun of the 'Rocks' who play poker... The flashy players get the attention but are not ahead $$$ wise
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                                              • tatddy
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-02-10
                                                • 10779

                                                #24
                                                John, a baby could outplay me at a ring game so take this with a grain of salt. I'd give 2 pieces of advice. Once is serious but I wont tell you which.

                                                1) Don't draw out of me so frequently when we play heads up

                                                2) Don't call raises so often out of position when the cutoff, button etc bumps it. Take 50% of your calls and throw half of them in the muck. The other 25% put in a 3 bet.
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                                                • RyanLeafOfBets
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-03-10
                                                  • 8164

                                                  #25
                                                  John,

                                                  One thing i've learned not to do in a ring game is continuation bet with a weak hand. Granted, some people are just calling the flop to bet the turn or the river, but they usually don't tend to lay down.

                                                  Also, don't be afraid to check raise, and don't be afraid to three bet.

                                                  The main piece of advice is to know your opponent (as mentioned above, take notes). Knowing whether they're tight/loose can go a long way when trying to bluff, or keep them in the pot with the nuts.
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                                                  • TheCentaur
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 06-28-11
                                                    • 8108

                                                    #26
                                                    Decide what to do in the hand by a predetermined schedule according to the second hand of your watch. This would make you randomly check, call, raise, all in. These pros slumming it in here for points can't read you when you aren't thinking about it.
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                                                    • daneblazer
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 09-14-08
                                                      • 27862

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                      It's been over a year. I've played thousands of hands in ring play. Last night guys were fighting each other to sit to my left, damn near a riot. Any advice to improve my game???
                                                      If you want my opinion, and I haven't played that much with you, the leak I've noticed is you can get transparent with your bets sometimes. That means you bet big when you have a great hands or bet weak when you whiff. Some times you don't extract enough value out of a hand because you aren't betting enough and will chase away those who would call a smaller bet by making a big bet or overbet. Outside of the huge amount of open limping, that's the one of the most consistent leaks you'll see on SBR. It's not all bad though...you are good at floating and will catch people c-betting without much of a hand (cough cough) and take it on the turn or river. IMO your game is more suited short handed than full ring. ...but what do I know?
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                                                      • HauntingTheHoly
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-28-10
                                                        • 1397

                                                        #28
                                                        Donks.

                                                        Guys can't figure out John's testing his new program that auto-inserts all "advice" in his notes file for said "advising" players.

                                                        Guy has taken like 3k in chips from me. Not that I'm any good and that should be impressive, but my boats have run into his quads I think....27 times now? Guy doesn't need any "advice."
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                                                        • SBR_John
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-12-05
                                                          • 16471

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by daneblazer
                                                          If you want my opinion, and I haven't played that much with you, the leak I've noticed is you can get transparent with your bets sometimes. That means you bet big when you have a great hands or bet weak when you whiff. Some times you don't extract enough value out of a hand because you aren't betting enough and will chase away those who would call a smaller bet by making a big bet or overbet. Outside of the huge amount of open limping, that's the one of the most consistent leaks you'll see on SBR. It's not all bad though...you are good at floating and will catch people c-betting without much of a hand (cough cough) and take it on the turn or river. IMO your game is more suited short handed than full ring. ...but what do I know?
                                                          Actually spot on, especially the last sentence. I get a little low on patience that seems to be important on big tables.

                                                          I need a Rosetta Stone for Poker jargon.

                                                          Thanks Taddy. I appreciate that advice. I definitely miss play too many weak hands.
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                                                          • MC PICKS
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-10-10
                                                            • 6644

                                                            #30
                                                            If people are fighting to sit to your left then you dont need any advice.
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                                                            • wantitall4moi
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-17-10
                                                              • 3063

                                                              #31
                                                              you cant judge anything from playing online poker for fake money with a bunch of guys who dont have anything else going on in their lives.
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                                                              • a4u2fear
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-29-10
                                                                • 8147

                                                                #32
                                                                go read hellmuth's book.
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388208

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Dont play

                                                                  Low return game at best

                                                                  Sports or casino games are better
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                                                                  • FuzzyDunlop
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-15-11
                                                                    • 2422

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                                    Too many people make fun of the 'Rocks' who play poker... The flashy players get the attention but are not ahead $$$ wise
                                                                    I'm ahead solely because of rocks.
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                                                                    • ShawNee922
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 04-22-08
                                                                      • 469

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                                      try and do the opposite of what other players are doing
                                                                      Great sports betting advice....
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