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  • Mudcat
    Restricted User
    • 07-21-05
    • 9287

    #1
    Sportsbook of the Day - Mansion
    The purpose of this thread is to post experiences, ratings, rantings and questions on any and all aspects of Mansion.

    SBR rating = B+
  • Mudcat
    Restricted User
    • 07-21-05
    • 9287

    #2
    I've been doing these Sportsbooks of the Day for awhile now. Hard to believe I am just now getting around to one of the very best IMO - Mansion.

    First point: Mansion has both a sportsbook and an exchange. My feeling is that the Sportsbook is pointless. Awhile ago, I asked the forum if anyone knows any reason to even look at the Sportsbook and I got a unanimous: NO.

    The exchange is really like a sportsbook/exchange hybrid. No point really analyzing that - the thing to know is it is GREAT. I find low juice offerings with high limits. I frequently find lines that are different from the consensus.

    I have been a big Pinnacle guy for a long time but Mansion is my #1 book for MLB right now. Unfortunately they don't have the alternate runlines I like so much - it's not a place to go looking for props - but overall, Mansion gets the most dollars of my MLB action.

    I get unlimited free Neteller deposits and withdrawals. The payouts are not the fastest in the industry. To be honest, I couldn't tell you exactly how long they take. I have gotten in the habit of making Mansion payout requests at the end of the day. The money is always in my Neteller when I wake up in the morning.

    They are not a big bonus book but they have occasional promos. They basically just threw some money at account holders with their recent Team of the Week soccer promo. I'll post stuff like that in the forum as it comes up.
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    • freebie
      SBR MVP
      • 08-10-05
      • 1174

      #3
      I love them.

      They are my number book. Free payout free instacash.
      What else is left?

      Plus Plus 1% on offer and no commish on buying.
      I say way better than Matchbook, 2% on everything and 4% on deposit. Sheesh!
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      • tacomax
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-10-05
        • 9619

        #4
        Originally posted by Mudcat
        They are not a big bonus book but they have occasional promos.
        Every day was a bonus day with their MLB pricing last season.
        Originally posted by pags11
        SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
        Originally posted by BuddyBear
        I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
        Originally posted by curious
        taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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        • freebie
          SBR MVP
          • 08-10-05
          • 1174

          #5
          Mudcat,
          Mansion sportsbook is not all worthless. You can use it for teaser and parlay. maybe half worthless but not completely worthless.
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          • Mudcat
            Restricted User
            • 07-21-05
            • 9287

            #6
            Originally posted by freebie
            Mudcat,
            Mansion sportsbook is not all worthless. You can use it for teaser and parlay. maybe half worthless but not completely worthless.

            That's exactly the kind of feedback I always hope these threads will generate. Thanks.


            Originally posted by tacomax
            Every day was a bonus day with their MLB pricing last season.

            Oh man, you are preaching to the choir.
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            • David
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 08-11-05
              • 875

              #7
              For those that prefer the sportsbook layout to that of an exchange, you can now go into the exhange and select 'Sport Book Layout'. It is then just like betting in the sportsbook but you get the much better prices from the exchange.
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              • Mudcat
                Restricted User
                • 07-21-05
                • 9287

                #8
                I didn't know that. I prefer the exchange layout but it's good to know.
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                • rolemand
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-24-06
                  • 1033

                  #9
                  Yikes. I just tried that layout. You lose the knowledge of how much is offered at that line. I think you'd end up wasting more time with that layout.
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                  • natrass
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-14-05
                    • 1242

                    #10
                    lol. If you have to walk everywjere then a bicycle is well appreciated. if you have a bike then a car is the business. And so on.

                    I think anyone who has played at, say, betfair thinks its kind of funny people get exited about mansion.

                    Just on the "current" issues here ... free withdrawals are the absolute norm for UK bookies so no advantage. Their layout is already like a sportsbook ... its crazy, how much less information could they give? You can only ever see the current offer ... you might see $5 at 1.91 and have no idea if there is nothing at 1.9 or half a million dollars. They tell you absolutely nothing.

                    And they say you can upgrade to a sportsbook layout ... WTF ??? Its an exchange ... you NEED to see the queues and the volume and the betting histroies for each market.

                    But, I know, if you havent played at betfair you will not understand.

                    And dont even start me on their prices. As i have said ... and it is a total fact ... they barely differ from pinnacle for US sports and for non-US sports it is plain bad value. Anyone, post your pinnacle-mansion arbs up ... prove me wrong ...it will be a short list.

                    That said, i expect slash to appear at any moment with a stiffy over mansion.

                    Different folks for different things maybe.
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                    • slacker00
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-06-05
                      • 12262

                      #11
                      I like Mansion, but I avoid it because it takes freaking forever to load with my slow dial-up connection. I just use Pinnacle instead for this simple reason.

                      Also, has anyone else had trouble accessing Mansion? Wednesday night I couldn't even access the site whatsoever. It seems like I've had this happen to me with Mansion more than once or twice.

                      Anyone else have these same problems?
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                      • Mudcat
                        Restricted User
                        • 07-21-05
                        • 9287

                        #12
                        There are only isolated cases I can remember of having trouble accessing Mansion. Few and far between.

                        Lately I have been having the problem more and more often of it freezing up - so I have to just close the window and load up the site again.

                        On top of Slacker's query, I'd be interested to know if anyone has been experiencing that.
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                        • Dark Horse
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-14-05
                          • 13764

                          #13
                          I like Mansion as well, but I just found out that they want your ID (passport or drivers license) when you make a Neteller withdrawal, even if you deposited through Neteller. I hate that. F*ck!
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                          • pags11
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-18-05
                            • 12264

                            #14
                            seriously guys, how is Mansion not rated at least an A- when there are books like bodog rated as A?...this is one of the top books out there...I nomimate them for an upgrade immediately...thoughts on this?...
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                            • David
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-11-05
                              • 875

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pags11
                              seriously guys, how is Mansion not rated at least an A- when there are books like bodog rated as A?...this is one of the top books out there...I nomimate them for an upgrade immediately...thoughts on this?...
                              I doubt they are profitable right now. That's probably why they are not rated A.
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                              • tacomax
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 9619

                                #16
                                Originally posted by David
                                I doubt they are profitable right now. That's probably why they are not rated A.
                                And, more importantly, I think they fall foul of John's 2 year requirement.

                                It's all well and good saying that Book X should be A+ rated but any watchdog service has a duty to it's customers. Overly-rating new books (however strong they might seem financially) has proved to be a bad move in the past. And you're never going to be the sharpest tool in the box if you don't learn from past mistakes.
                                Originally posted by pags11
                                SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                Originally posted by curious
                                taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                • David
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-11-05
                                  • 875

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Mudcat
                                  There are only isolated cases I can remember of having trouble accessing Mansion. Few and far between.

                                  Lately I have been having the problem more and more often of it freezing up - so I have to just close the window and load up the site again.

                                  On top of Slacker's query, I'd be interested to know if anyone has been experiencing that.
                                  The site was down for a while the other night. Overall though I'd say the site is very reliable.

                                  I use FireFox and never have any problems with Mansion freezing or anything like that. I find that some sites work better with FireFox and others work better with IE. Pinny for example I find works better with IE.
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                                  • rolemand
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-24-06
                                    • 1033

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by natrass
                                    lol. If you have to walk everywjere then a bicycle is well appreciated. if you have a bike then a car is the business. And so on.

                                    I think anyone who has played at, say, betfair thinks its kind of funny people get exited about mansion.

                                    Just on the "current" issues here ... free withdrawals are the absolute norm for UK bookies so no advantage. Their layout is already like a sportsbook ... its crazy, how much less information could they give? You can only ever see the current offer ... you might see $5 at 1.91 and have no idea if there is nothing at 1.9 or half a million dollars. They tell you absolutely nothing.

                                    And they say you can upgrade to a sportsbook layout ... WTF ??? Its an exchange ... you NEED to see the queues and the volume and the betting histroies for each market.

                                    But, I know, if you havent played at betfair you will not understand.
                                    Well given this high recommendation I thougtht I'd sign up w/ Betfair. Natrass neglected to mention Betfair don't like folks from the good ol US of A. Kind of an important comparison you left out.
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                                    • rolemand
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-24-06
                                      • 1033

                                      #19
                                      You gotta love how Betfair doesn't allow USA customers but the default country on their sign up is ............

                                      United States.

                                      You then get to proceed through about 3 more screens of info before they say "You're from the US we don't let you join"
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                                      • Doug
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 6324

                                        #20
                                        Best book to open since Pinny.
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                                        • Dark Horse
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-14-05
                                          • 13764

                                          #21
                                          Turns out that the picture ID requirement before withdrawals, even when deposits were made through Neteller (!), is Gibraltar legislation.
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                                          • juuso
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-04-05
                                            • 2896

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by natrass
                                            lol. If you have to walk everywjere then a bicycle is well appreciated. if you have a bike then a car is the business. And so on.

                                            I think anyone who has played at, say, betfair thinks its kind of funny people get exited about mansion.

                                            Just on the "current" issues here ... free withdrawals are the absolute norm for UK bookies so no advantage. Their layout is already like a sportsbook ... its crazy, how much less information could they give? You can only ever see the current offer ... you might see $5 at 1.91 and have no idea if there is nothing at 1.9 or half a million dollars. They tell you absolutely nothing.

                                            And they say you can upgrade to a sportsbook layout ... WTF ??? Its an exchange ... you NEED to see the queues and the volume and the betting histroies for each market.

                                            But, I know, if you havent played at betfair you will not understand.

                                            And dont even start me on their prices. As i have said ... and it is a total fact ... they barely differ from pinnacle for US sports and for non-US sports it is plain bad value. Anyone, post your pinnacle-mansion arbs up ... prove me wrong ...it will be a short list.

                                            That said, i expect slash to appear at any moment with a stiffy over mansion.

                                            Different folks for different things maybe.

                                            Betfair is probably better for soccer, tennis and few other sports but Mansions vlolume and prices in US sports market are much better. Not to mention the 5% commission at BF.
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                                            • juuso
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-04-05
                                              • 2896

                                              #23
                                              Signed up at Mansion few months ago and have been using it for over 50% of my MLB bets. You can often find better price on some MLB sides here than anywhere else.
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                                              • natrass
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-14-05
                                                • 1242

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by rolemand
                                                Well given this high recommendation I thougtht I'd sign up w/ Betfair. Natrass neglected to mention Betfair don't like folks from the good ol US of A. Kind of an important comparison you left out.

                                                Sorry ... I wasnt actually writing a recommendation for betfair though ... just comparing it to mansion. Im not American so it never crosses my mind that its an issue.

                                                As for mansions website, its a bit clunky but I have never had serious problems with it freezing or collapsing. in fact, thats never happened.

                                                In fairness, I forgot to say their CS is excellent and on another two forums about eight people have won free tickets, flights, etc to the England/Paraguay game (and these arent huge forums). That with the free money some people got and the anti-Man unites Handicaps giveaway ... well, you have to appreciate their generosity.

                                                Mansion are definately not remotely bad or incompetent .. just in a world of their own. A bit mad. There isnt another place like them.
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                                                • slash
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 1000

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by natrass
                                                  And dont even start me on their prices. As i have said ... and it is a total fact ... they barely differ from pinnacle for US sports and for non-US sports it is plain bad value. Anyone, post your pinnacle-mansion arbs up ... prove me wrong ...it will be a short list.

                                                  That said, i expect slash to appear at any moment with a stiffy over mansion.

                                                  Different folks for different things maybe.
                                                  This is just unreal!!! You can't be serious.
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                                                  • David
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 08-11-05
                                                    • 875

                                                    #26
                                                    I hear ya slash. I don't know about other sports, but they have some great prices on MLB.
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                                                    • slash
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 1000

                                                      #27
                                                      Nothing he says surprises me anymore.
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                                                      • natrass
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-14-05
                                                        • 1242

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by David
                                                        I hear ya slash. I don't know about other sports, but they have some great prices on MLB.
                                                        Erm, where did I say they had bad MLB prices?

                                                        What i did say is that their MLB prices consistently mirror pinnacles.
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                                                        • David
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 08-11-05
                                                          • 875

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by natrass
                                                          Erm, where did I say they had bad MLB prices?

                                                          What i did say is that their MLB prices consistently mirror pinnacles.

                                                          What do you mean by mirror? I consistently see lines that are more than a few cents better than pinnacle.
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                                                          • Mudcat
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 07-21-05
                                                            • 9287

                                                            #30
                                                            I don't find that Mansion's lines to mirror Pinnacle. I frequently find the two books' lines to be very pleasantly and profitably staggered.

                                                            However I have discussed this with Natrass before and I believe we're on an agree to disagree basis on that one.
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                                                            • Baphomet
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 05-11-06
                                                              • 124

                                                              #31
                                                              Designer's opinion: Great structure, golden and read gives lots of class. But sometimes loads to slow.
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                                                              • pags11
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 08-18-05
                                                                • 12264

                                                                #32
                                                                tacomax,

                                                                in response to your comment regarding the time frame in which mansion has been open...I believe that Mansion's parent company has been around much longer...any real gambler (as shown by guys like Doug) knows that this is one of the top sites out there...
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                                                                • natrass
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-14-05
                                                                  • 1242

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Mudcat
                                                                  I don't find that Mansion's lines to mirror Pinnacle. I frequently find the two books' lines to be very pleasantly and profitably staggered.

                                                                  However I have discussed this with Natrass before and I believe we're on an agree to disagree basis on that one.
                                                                  Yeah, I know. I thought of that when david disagreed as well.

                                                                  Either we are talking about a different mansion or your term 'profitable' is a very very literal one.

                                                                  But, sure, I believe you and David wouldnt be sticking to your guns if you didnt believe it to be true ... so, yes, we agree to disagree I guess.
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                                                                  • tacomax
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                                    • 9619

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pags11
                                                                    in response to your comment regarding the time frame in which mansion has been open...I believe that Mansion's parent company has been around much longer...any real gambler (as shown by guys like Doug) knows that this is one of the top sites out there...
                                                                    What's the parent company, pags11? What's their SBR rating?

                                                                    What you still fail to understand is that you thinking that Mansion "is one of the top sites out there" doesn't mean that they should be given an "A" rating purely for your benefit - there is reasoning behind the current rating which you're unable to grasp. Why not leave the SBR guys to the ratings and you can concentrate on something you're good at, whatever that might be.
                                                                    Originally posted by pags11
                                                                    SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                                                    Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                                    I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                                                    Originally posted by curious
                                                                    taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                                                    • pags11
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 08-18-05
                                                                      • 12264

                                                                      #35
                                                                      tacomax,

                                                                      thanks once again for making a discussion/ interaction into a personal attack...you are such a prick in the way you go about it too, it's a real talent you bring to SBR...I won't be going anyware anytime soon, so please don't get your hopes up...

                                                                      I believe the parent company of mansion is Wesex and their SBR rating is an A...me wanting to have them an A rating is not for my benefit at all...yes, I use the site, but I do because of the low juice, overnight lines, quick payouts and great CS (which is more than you can say for 99% of the books out there)...

                                                                      and I think your very aware that I'm an excellent handicapper and that you are a shit-stirrer and have terrible soccer picks...you pretend to be so intelligent, but you're not fooling me at all...
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