romney = not only abuses animals but also a school bully

[Sam Odom]

how did a crackhead with a dui & cocaine arrest get into yale and harvard business school?

being a Bush helped greatly... now address my post #174

[Smoke]

Romney will destroy this country

Rich get richer, poor get poorer

And he beats up gay kids too

[Easy-Rider 66]

being a Bush helped greatly... now address my post #174

Hopefully, Romney will be a better Prez than George W. and Obama. Time will tell.

[Sam Odom]

W's father & grandfather were big-wigs at Yale so W had an easy path to get in... But back to my post #174

Who backed Obama and what kind of scholarship did he get at occidental college ?

Why is Obama blocking his records release? The most transparent Prez ever!

[guitarjosh]

whether you agree or not with what they were charged is irrelevent. the fact is they were arrested because they cut their hair. they were charged because they cut their hair. maybe not "hate crime" since it was amish on amish but still a crime no matter how you look at it.

cops wont arrest anyone for cutting hair yet they arrested mr walter for doing exactly that????? you make no sense whatsoever. cutting her hair was included in many of his charges.

heres another one.... man charged with assault after cutting someones hair:

PO MAN CHARGED WITH ASSAULT AFTER CUTTING WOMAN'S HAIR

http://m.kitsapsun.com/news/2008/may/30/po-man-charged-with-assault-after-cutting-womans/

forcibly cutting someones hair is a crime and the law has proven it repeatedly!

americans are forced to carry auto insurance, so whats the difference?

Walter wasn't arrested and charged for assault, but for theft. I'm not saying forcibly cutting someone's hair isn't technically a crime, but it is such a minor crime that it won't always get a charge. Te Amish case was called a hate crime because it was against rival sects.

Not all Americans must but car insurance. Residents of Wisconsin and New Hampshire aren't required to buy any. Where I live I only must carry insurance to pay for damage I do to someone else's property.

[crustyme]

Walter wasn't arrested and charged for assault, but for theft. I'm not saying forcibly cutting someone's hair isn't technically a crime, but it is such a minor crime that it won't always get a charge. Te Amish case was called a hate crime because it was against rival sects.

Not all Americans must but car insurance. Residents of Wisconsin and New Hampshire aren't required to buy any. Where I live I only must carry insurance to pay for damage I do to someone else's property.

walter was charged with "public transit interference" which states:

(1) A person commits the crime of interfering with public transportation if the person

(d) Subjects a public transportation passenger, employee, agent or security officer or transit police officer to offensive physical contact.

public transit interference is a class "a" misdemeanor punishable by upto $10,000 fine and/or 9 months in jail, and up to 2 years for repeat offenders.

so it's not a minor offense as you seem to believe.

not to mention he was also "wanted on hair-and-glue assault charges in King County, Wash."

you seem to be stuck on the "hate crime"..... but you don't seem to understand that even if no such thing existed, they would still have been arrested and charged with the crime! hate crime applies because they targeted specific people to commit their haircutting crimes on: other amish people.

there are many other arrests and prosecutions arising from haircutting assaults, so you are 100% wrong when you claim it is something cops and the law ignore.

wisconsin residents are required to carry mandatory insurance:

Drivers will want to make sure the auto insurance paperwork in their glove box is up to date before next Tuesday.

That's when a state law requiring all Wisconsin motorists to purchase auto insurance goes into effect. Those who can't provide proof of insurance when they are pulled over or in an accident may face a $10 fine, and the law allows for fines of up to $500 for people caught driving without insurance

http://www.wiscnews.com/baraboonewsrepublic/news/local/article_c6cd462c-67a1-11df-a383-001cc4c03286.html

states only require liability insurance but if you are financing or leasing, full coverage is required by the banks.

[crustyme]

W's father & grandfather were big-wigs at Yale so W had an easy path to get in... But back to my post #174

Who backed Obama and what kind of scholarship did he get at occidental college ?

Why is Obama blocking his records release? The most transparent Prez ever!

what great knowledge do you hope to gain from looking at his records?

i mean dont you guys still have egg on your faces from his birth certificate fiasco?

[guitarjosh]

walter was charged with "public transit interference" which states:

(1) A person commits the crime of interfering with public transportation if the person

(d) Subjects a public transportation passenger, employee, agent or security officer or transit police officer to offensive physical contact.


not to mention he was also "wanted on hair-and-glue assault charges in King County, Wash."

you seem to be stuck on the "hate crime"..... but you don't seem to understand that even if no such thing existed, they would still have been arrested and charged with the crime! hate crime applies because they targeted specific people to commit their haircutting crimes on: other amish people.

there are many other arrests and prosecutions arising from haircutting assaults, so you are 100% wrong when you claim it is something cops and the law ignore.

wisconsin residents are required to carry mandatory insurance:

Drivers will want to make sure the auto insurance paperwork in their glove box is up to date before next Tuesday.

That's when a state law requiring all Wisconsin motorists to purchase auto insurance goes into effect. Those who can't provide proof of insurance when they are pulled over or in an accident may face a $10 fine, and the law allows for fines of up to $500 for people caught driving without insurance

http://www.wiscnews.com/baraboonewsrepublic/news/local/article_c6cd462c-67a1-11df-a383-001cc4c03286.html

states only require liability insurance but if you are financing or leasing, full coverage is required by the banks.

What was the punishment of these people convicted of cutting someone's hair? Do you think this girl should be arrested?

But you don't need car insurance in NH. Still amazing that you support forcing people to spend thousands of dollars a year to buy health insurance but are agahast over 1 forced haircut.

[MUHerd37]

This shit still being argued about!!!??? Wow

[crustyme]

What was the punishment of these people convicted of cutting someone's hair? Do you think this girl should be arrested?

But you don't need car insurance in NH. Still amazing that you support forcing people to spend thousands of dollars a year to buy health insurance but are agahast over 1 forced haircut.

you're seriously comparing a little girl on a sitcom to a grown ass man like romney and his gang of thugs?

ok, i'll play along with your ridiculousness..... if stephanie and dj tackled uncle jesse and held him down and cut off his hair against his will, then yes, she'd be subject to arrest.

nh has 1.3 million residents... which is just .4% of the total us population. so you think .4% of the population having the freedom not to have mandatory insurance is fair when 96.6% of the us population does not?

plus nh may not require insurance but you still must be able "to demonstrate that you are able to provide sufficient funds to meet New Hampshire Motor Vehicle Financial Responsibility Requirements." otherwise your driving privileges will be suspended.

again, how is mandatory health insurance dissimilar to auto insurance?

[PickWinnerAllDay]

you're seriously comparing a little girl on a sitcom to a grown ass man like romney and his gang of thugs?

ok, i'll play along with your ridiculousness..... if stephanie and dj tackled uncle jesse and held him down and cut off his hair against his will, then yes, she'd be subject to arrest.

nh has 1.3 million residents... which is just .4% of the total us population. so you think .4% of the population having the freedom not to have mandatory insurance is fair when 96.6% of the us population does not?

plus nh may not require insurance but you still must be able "to demonstrate that you are able to provide sufficient funds to meet New Hampshire Motor Vehicle Financial Responsibility Requirements." otherwise your driving privileges will be suspended.

again, how is mandatory health insurance dissimilar to auto insurance?

Are you really asking this question? How stupid are you? seriously? How stupid? I need an exact answer here... no one FORCES you to drive... you don't have to drive, a lot of people in this country don't and never get a license. Why would they ever buy car insurance?

Requiring health insurance and requiring car insurance are not even close to being the same thing.

[crustyme]

you don't have to live in this country, either. dumbass.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

you don't have to live in this country, either. dumbass.

That is the dumbest thing I've ever read. Congrats. That argument pretty much would work equally well for everything you liberals bitch about.

Gay Marriage

'you don't have to live in this country, either. dumbass.'

Perfect.

[crustyme]

you made an ignorant statement.... "if you dont want to pay auto insurance, don't drive..." considering there are millions of people who don't have a choice. but funny coming from some clown who supposedly paid cash for a car with 10 year old technology.

so if you don't want to pay for health insurance.... gtfo.

but why would you worry about it if you already got coverage? unless you're broke after your latest all-in losers.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/1682956-stage-right-all-play.html

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/1220424-fukk-i-m-all.html

[MC PICKS]

Its unconstitutional to force people to purchase a product, driving is not a right its a privlege, if you want that priveledge then you buy insurance, no one is forcing you to drive. its two different things heathcare and auto insurance.

[Sam Odom]

what great knowledge do you hope to gain from looking at his records?

fact of the matter you and most Obamabots dont care... This has turned into the same 'debate' as the NDAA in which you would NEVER say the Dems were more responsible for its passing than Repubs - crustyme , you live in a fantasy world

God Bless

[opie1988]

The fact that Romney tackled this hippie nerd and forcibly cut his hair makes me like Mitt even more!

Look....Mity was a stud. This longhair, hippie pinko was a nerd. Studs always pick on nerds. This is the way it's always been....and the way it shall always be.

Mitt is going to be an excellent President.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

The fact that Romney tackled this hippie nerd and forcibly cut his hair makes me like Mitt even more!

Look....Mity was a stud. This longhair, hippie pinko was a nerd. Studs always pick on nerds. This is the way it's always been....and the way it shall always be.

Mitt is going to be an excellent President.

[guitarjosh]

you're seriously comparing a little girl on a sitcom to a grown ass man like romney and his gang of thugs?

ok, i'll play along with your ridiculousness..... if stephanie and dj tackled uncle jesse and held him down and cut off his hair against his will, then yes, she'd be subject to arrest.

nh has 1.3 million residents... which is just .4% of the total us population. so you think .4% of the population having the freedom not to have mandatory insurance is fair when 96.6% of the us population does not?

plus nh may not require insurance but you still must be able "to demonstrate that you are able to provide sufficient funds to meet New Hampshire Motor Vehicle Financial Responsibility Requirements." otherwise your driving privileges will be suspended.

again, how is mandatory health insurance dissimilar to auto insurance?

Here is something about me: you might have guessed by my handle, I play guitar. And like many guitar players, i have long hair. If I was at walmart and someone cut a chunk out of my hair, I would be pissed. Even if the legal system was involved, I wouldn't want more then the money to get my hair shaped up, maybe a hat, and an apology. I wasn't hurt, I didn't have to go to the doctor, and it will grow back. In the big scheme of things, it is nothing worse than a moving violation.

Auto insurance is only needed if you can do damage to another's property. You don't need it if you never drive your car off your property. Health insurance doesn't cover that. That is a huge difference.

[golfrulz]

bad copy/paste lol.

[crustyme]

Here is something about me: you might have guessed by my handle, I play guitar. And like many guitar players, i have long hair. If I was at walmart and someone cut a chunk out of my hair, I would be pissed. Even if the legal system was involved, I wouldn't want more then the money to get my hair shaped up, maybe a hat, and an apology. I wasn't hurt, I didn't have to go to the doctor, and it will grow back. In the big scheme of things, it is nothing worse than a moving violation.

Auto insurance is only needed if you can do damage to another's property. You don't need it if you never drive your car off your property. Health insurance doesn't cover that. That is a huge difference.

if a gang forces you to the ground, holds you down and cuts off all your hair..... and you are ok with that then don't call the cops. if being physically assaulted is the norm for you, it's your free will not to press charges. there are many women who are brutally beaten by their husbands or boyfriends who refuse to press charges and are let go.

if you involve the cops, they will be arrested, charged and prosecuted according to the law, not your opinion of justice. you maybe be ok with a small restitution and an apology but that's not how it works. they will be charged with assault and face years in prison. if you think it's nothing worse than a moving violation, then don't call the cops because they will take it more seriously than you will.

all the haircutting perps ive posted about face minimum 9 months to life sentences for their crimes plus thousands in fines. when was the last time a driver was arrested and charged with life sentence for going 75 in a 55? uhhhhhhhh never.

why would you own a car and not drive it? it's not like you can buy insurance for only the days you drive. you have to commit to min 6 months where i live. if there is a lapse in your coverage, they charge higher premiums.

but don't you think your health is more important than any property? so if you don't have a problem with mandatory auto insurance, why would you have a problem with health insurance?

and if you have health insurance, why would you care if it's mandatory or not?

[guitarjosh]

if a gang forces you to the ground, holds you down and cuts off all your hair..... and you are ok with that then don't call the cops. if being physically assaulted is the norm for you, it's your free will not to press charges. there are many women who are brutally beaten by their husbands or boyfriends who refuse to press charges and are let go.

if you involve the cops, they will be arrested, charged and prosecuted according to the law, not your opinion of justice. you maybe be ok with a small restitution and an apology but that's not how it works. they will be charged with assault and face years in prison. if you think it's nothing worse than a moving violation, then don't call the cops because they will take it more seriously than you will.

all the haircutting perps ive posted about face minimum 9 months to life sentences for their crimes plus thousands in fines. when was the last time a driver was arrested and charged with life sentence for going 75 in a 55? uhhhhhhhh never.

why would you own a car and not drive it? it's not like you can buy insurance for only the days you drive. you have to commit to min 6 months where i live. if there is a lapse in your coverage, they charge higher premiums.

but don't you think your health is more important than any property? so if you don't have a problem with mandatory auto insurance, why would you have a problem with health insurance?

and if you have health insurance, why would you care if it's mandatory or not?

Years of prison is going way overboard for a first time offender (which it looked like Romney would be in this case) when the offense can be fixed with a haircut or a hat. You have to look at the people you cited from an individual standpoint, as some of them might be hit with a 3rd strike. I heard of someone getting a 25 year sentence for stealing some cookies because it was his 3rd strike. I've also heard of fights breaking out on the street and since no one was badly hurt, the cops let it go so not to clog up the court system and burden taxpayers more.

There are a lot of people who live on large plots of land and might have a car or truck that they use to get around on it. It would be stupid to pay insurance for it when the only time you take it out on the main roads is to go to the gas station and back. It would be smarter to get a gas tank and just use that. Those people would never damage anything but their own property, and it should be up to them as to whether they buy insurance or not. Me demanding they buy it would be like me demanding my neighbor have insurance just incase they knock a hole in their bedroom wall.

I do think my health is more important than my my car, but the thing is that it's my property, and therefore it is my business how I care of it. My health can't damage your property, but my car can.

I have a problem with the principle behind forcing me to buy a private product for my own good. If they can force me to buy insurance, they can force me to buy a lot more.

[SBR_John]

Crustyme if Romney was running against a Marxists /socialists who would you likely vote for?

[Mr KLC]

Is this really where our country has gone? We have all of these issues in government and politics right now, and this is big story news? This subject is worthy of a thread of 200 posts? It kills me how people have become so "reality show" oriented. I guess in next week's episode, we're going to have the story how Mitt wrecked his father's car, and refused to work off the debt to fix it. They might even go to the extreme and report how Mitt might have said, "No.", when his dad asked him to wash the car for a week to pay for the crash. Maybe they'll bring up a time where Mitt went to school with skid marks in his underwear. We sure as hell can't have a president that can't wipe his ass properly. Can we? If some of you guys are wanting me to turn my head on Obama's college record, and who funded him to go to college, I think you can let this alleged (the proposed victim died in 2004) incident go.

The only reason I think that this even came up was that they were hoping Romney would stick his foot in his mouth, and then a big anti-bullying campaign would ensue to divide a few more Americans. Stick to issues guys. I don't agree with a few of you on issues, but at least its those topics that matter in an election. Not this garbage.

[opie1988]

Bottom line is thus: longhaired nerds deserve to have their hair forcibly trimmed.

[The Bet Master]

Not a Romney supporter, but does it really matter? All that counts is what he is going to do when he's in office. I don't care if candidates are the nicest person in the world or an ex con, what will they do when they are elected should be the only thing that people care about.

[FuzzyDunlop]

He missed a golden opportunity to saw 'I was 16, 16 year olds do messed up things, I learned a lot from it, something kids now need to learn bla bla bla.'

[Easy-Rider 66]

Is this really where our country has gone? We have all of these issues in government and politics right now, and this is big story news? This subject is worthy of a thread of 200 posts? It kills me how people have become so "reality show" oriented. I guess in next week's episode, we're going to have the story how Mitt wrecked his father's car, and refused to work off the debt to fix it. They might even go to the extreme and report how Mitt might have said, "No.", when his dad asked him to wash the car for a week to pay for the crash. Maybe they'll bring up a time where Mitt went to school with skid marks in his underwear. We sure as hell can't have a president that can't wipe his ass properly. Can we? If some of you guys are wanting me to turn my head on Obama's college record, and who funded him to go to college, I think you can let this alleged (the proposed victim died in 2004) incident go.

The only reason I think that this even came up was that they were hoping Romney would stick his foot in his mouth, and then a big anti-bullying campaign would ensue to divide a few more Americans. Stick to issues guys. I don't agree with a few of you on issues, but at least its those topics that matter in an election. Not this garbage.

I agree that this issue is being blown out of proportion to the real issues facing the country. But character of the Prez and his actions in the past are fair game. Should Clinton have been voted in with his infidelity issues? What about George W, with his drinking, DUI, and his refusal to talk about possible cocaine use. And as usual, the conservatives will overlook their guys indiscretions and the liberals their own. And which way the Independents swing will decide the election.

[rkelly110]

Where's the common sense about health care, boys? Are you happy paying out the ass
each month with high deductibles? Are you happy about paying for people who don't have
insurance? Then you bitch about everyone having insurance who has to pay for it.

Sounds like being a self responsible, conservative move to me.

I find it funny the one's who are bitching the loudest are working conservatives who hate
giving anyone anything, but don't have a problem with paying for the people they despise
the most with free health care.

[Mr KLC]

I agree that this issue is being blown out of proportion to the real issues facing the country. But character of the Prez and his actions in the past are fair game. Should Clinton have been voted in with his infidelity issues? What about George W, with his drinking, DUI, and his refusal to talk about possible cocaine use. And as usual, the conservatives will overlook their guys indiscretions and the liberals their own. And which way the Independents swing will decide the election.

I agree that character is important. No gripe there, but if we are looking for a man with a halo over his head to run for the highest office in the land, it'll never happen. I would say that the president with the least amount of personal baggage, that got elected in my lifetime, was Jimmy Carter, and that didn't work out too well. In this day and age of 24/7 news, and talk shows, there is always going to be something found on someone somewhere.

[DwightShrute]

It happened in 1965. Give it up. Men landed on the moon and Obama has used cocaine since then.

[crustyme]

Years of prison is going way overboard for a first time offender (which it looked like Romney would be in this case) when the offense can be fixed with a haircut or a hat. You have to look at the people you cited from an individual standpoint, as some of them might be hit with a 3rd strike. I heard of someone getting a 25 year sentence for stealing some cookies because it was his 3rd strike. I've also heard of fights breaking out on the street and since no one was badly hurt, the cops let it go so not to clog up the court system and burden taxpayers more.

There are a lot of people who live on large plots of land and might have a car or truck that they use to get around on it. It would be stupid to pay insurance for it when the only time you take it out on the main roads is to go to the gas station and back. It would be smarter to get a gas tank and just use that. Those people would never damage anything but their own property, and it should be up to them as to whether they buy insurance or not. Me demanding they buy it would be like me demanding my neighbor have insurance just incase they knock a hole in their bedroom wall.

I do think my health is more important than my my car, but the thing is that it's my property, and therefore it is my business how I care of it. My health can't damage your property, but my car can.

I have a problem with the principle behind forcing me to buy a private product for my own good. If they can force me to buy insurance, they can force me to buy a lot more.

what youre describing with the street fight is whats legally referred to as mutual combat where both sides mutually agreed to fight. they have different laws for that. so you cant later sue or press charges if you got your ass kicked and your teeth knocked out.

what happened with this incident is far from a mutual combat. romney and his posse jumped the poor kid and viciously assaulted him while he cried for help. thats the opposite of mutual combat.

whether the judge would have gone easy on him is debatable since it wasnt as simple as him cutting his hair from behind and running away laughing. romney recruited the thugs, planned it and coordinated the entire vicious attack. and the ring leader often receives the harshest sentence.

if you drive on any public road, you must be insured, period. driving on your own property is irrelevent since you could ride on a lawn mower as far as govt is concerned.

claiming that mandatory healthcare will lead to forced purchase of other services is a ridiculous strawman argument. its the same argument anti-gay marriage proponents use claiming that legalizing gay marriages will lead to marrying animals.

anyways you can opt out of healthcare for religious reasons or for financial hardship, unlike auto insurance.

[SBR_John]

The election will ignore these fun one offs and focus on the economy. If Obama will go on record as supporting an extension of the Bush tax cuts I think he will win. If he doesn't married couples earning $60k a year will be looking at an additional $750 in taxes a year. That will be enough to tip the scale.

[crustyme]

Crustyme if Romney was running against a Marxists /socialists who would you likely vote for?

socialism and marxism are not the same.

and countries with the best quality of life are always dominated by socialist nations.

and if you would name specific candidates i would be happy to tell you who id vote for.

[Sam Odom]

Crustyme if Romney was running against a Marxists /socialists who would you likely vote for?

good luck in getting a straight answer from crusty