Skybook complaint

[sweetlou]

Another problem is their privacy policy.. The manager posted my account balance and my correspondence (emails) to him at therx - Clearly in violation of their OWN PRIVACY POLICY

Skybooks privacy policy

Skybook is committed to protecting your privacy. Whether online or offline, you can rest assured that the information you provide is protected. Skybook does not share personally identifying information with third parties.

LIE!!

[Mudcat]

Just a heads up: I've changed the thread title. There is no scam here.

I think you're going around in circles now sweetlou. All your points are made. I don't think there is anything else you can say to change what anyone thinks of your complaint.

[BuddyBear]

call it whatever you will and call sweetlou whatever you will the bigger argument is that a guy does not want the bonus anymore and is forced to keep it against his will.

The bettor deposits a sum of money and is offered a bonus (free money from the sportsbook) and is expected to rollover it over.

He decides that he is content with his winnings and wishes to withdraw therefore he relinquishes his bonus....that should be the end of the story. Skybook, and any other book, should proceed and process his withdrawal devoid of the bonus...

He has made a conscious decision to no longer accept the bonus....he should be exonerate from it....They can't force you to keep the bonus....that is dumb and borderline unethical.....skybook should do away with it in my opinoin...

the gaming industry is competitive....and i've found that skybook is one of the most anti-consumer books out there.

[bigboydan]

first off, let me welcome you to the SBRforum Lou

as many posters have stated above. there is no scam here being committed by skybook. it's perty much common knowlage on how these books conduct there bonus rules.

there are certian promotions out there at times where books may allow a 1x's rollover, but thats very few and far between and "very" rare. (bodog use to offer that type of bonus offer a long time ago)

[sweetlou]

well thats fine.. i guess its just a difference of opinion -IMO NO SPORTSBOOK should be able to HOLD YOUR ENTIRE BALANCE from you... for any reason... i admit that i made the mistake of not reading the rules... had i known that i definitely wouldnt have tied up 1800 dollars which i had coming to me for 64 bucks.. and im sure most people if they are aware of this wouldnt either.. Im trying to make people aware To me, Its just BAD BUSINESS... especially when they push the bonus on u & dont explain "THAT WE WILL NOT PAY YOU A CENT REGARDLESS IF YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW OR NOT" they never said that you cant forfeit the bonus on the phone.. the clerk should have read me the ENTIRE T&C'S...Anyways im done... Ill get em back - One way or another...

[Mudcat]

I don't disagree that it's a tougher policy than most books.

Players who don't like it should definitely not take bonuses with Skybook.

[sweetlou]

Thanks for the welcome - and Bdan - Most sportsbooks allow you to forfeit the bonus and at least withdraw SOME money.. Ive used probably 10 diff books over the years and never ran into this...

[BuddyBear]

Just a heads up: I've changed the thread title. There is no scam here.

I think you're going around in circles now sweetlou. All your points are made. I don't think there is anything else you can say to change what anyone thinks of your complaint.

You are opening a pandora's box here mudcat by changing the title.....the thread title is the sole responsibility of its initiator...this is a free speech issue.

For the longest time, you guys never had a problem with TGO making a million (unquestionably false) derogatory comments about blacks, women, liberals, and gays but a guy who calls a book's policy a scam seems to have drawn the ire of you guys...not sure why there are different standards here for different posters.

[tony27]

If Skybook pays this needle head I'll never play there again

This guy is a class A idiot....


Obviously he played with fire, lost all of his money, and now wants to blame Skybook.....

Gamblers Anonymous it is

[Terris]

Buddybears insanity is becoming as boring as pags posts now...

[BuddyBear]

unless you are bonus scalping....bonuses are pretty much pointless b/c of the lengthy rollover process. Granchow showed us this in a thread a while back...and industry leaders I have spoken with always recommend looking beyond bonuses.

[BuddyBear]

Buddybears insanity is becoming as boring as pags posts now...

Get a life ferret

[tacomax]

You are opening a pandora's box here mudcat by changing the title.....the thread title is the sole responsibility of its initiator...this is a free speech issue.

Free speech is one thing, making false accusations against a company is another. This appears to be a misunderstanding between a CS operative and the player - it is not a scam by any stretch of the imagination.

[Terris]

unless you are bonus scalping....bonuses are pretty much pointless b/c of the lengthy rollover process. Granchow showed us this in a thread a while back...and industry leaders I have spoken with always recommend looking beyond bonuses.

industry leaders huh...there is no reason to not take a bonus if you are going to have a book as an out anyway - but i guess your so called leaders aint the sharpest knives in the drawer either

[sweetlou]

Wow - well im glad u joined Tony 27 u said the exact same thing at that other book er i mean sportsforum... couldnt you think of anything more original that that YA UNORIGINAL PRICK hahaha Why dont u go BLOW MIKE FROM SKYBOOK? SINCE UR ALREADY SWINGING FROM HIS NUTSACK HAHAHA

[Catsfan]

All I can say is Skybook is a pretty good book when someone has a major complaint and this is all it is. He didn't follow their bonus rules. Play until you meet your roll over and cash out. Just be thankful you aren't playing at a "real" scam book like BetOnStars.

[sweetlou]

im not tryin to be an a-hole here.. i just dont want to see someone get suckered like i did...

[Terris]

Dude you didnt get suckered...i know skybook makes sure everyone understands (im sure even BB would) the bonus terms *before* accepting it.

So as muddy said, take it as a lesson, but stop bitching - you aint getting nowhere with this kind of crap.
Btw its 100% correct to edit a title if it is simply wrong, which is the case here. Because if noone would edit such things, the forums would be full of crap and false accusations. Players want bookies to respect them, so we need to respect the bookie if it is good.

[BuddyBear]

Free speech is one thing, making false accusations against a company is another. This appears to be a misunderstanding between a CS operative and the player - it is not a scam by any stretch of the imagination.

It's a free speech issue....TGO can say whatever he wants ad nausium and offend everyone but the slightest offense to an SBR sponsor will immediately be rebuked by the mods despite the author's admission that he did not read the rule. He is referring to the process he experienced as a scam....

The mods are trained here to immediately refute criticism toward the "golden books"....that's how it works especially when it comes to books like BoDog and Skybook. Books who are paying for advertising on SBR are untouchable....

The term scam can be used to suggest different conceptualizations of business practices.....if I tell you a credit card company is charging 40% on a loan...then you would consider a scam....it all depends on interpretation.

It's his fault he didn't read the rules....he even admits it but the practice in and of itself is what he is referring to as a scam....read carefully!

Come on Taco...you should be a more critical consumer of information....

[tacomax]

The mods are trained here to immediately refute criticism toward the "golden books"....that's how it works especially when it comes to books like BoDog and Skybook. Books who are paying for advertising on SBR are untouchable....

No they're not. Sponsors are more open to criticism that any other forums I've been to.

And it looks like Mudcat missed his training, eh?

http://forum.sbrforum.com/showthread.php?p=111750

[sweetlou]

Terris - You have ur opinion -and i have mine... OBVIOUSLY i DIDNT know that they were gonna HOLD MY MONEY... the clerk NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO FORFEIT THE BONUS & NO BOOK SHOULD BE ABLE TO HOLD YOUR MONEY ESPECIALLY MY INITIAL DEPOSIT, COULD YOU IMAGINE IF VEGAS PULLED THIS CRAP? BACK IN THE DAY PEOPLE WOULD BE GETTING SHOT!!

[sweetlou]

Well said Buddybear..

[sweetlou]

and for the manager of skybook to go on and post my ACCOUNT INFO & MY PERSONAL CORRESPONDENCE WITH EVERYONE IS REPREHENSIBLE!!!!

[TLD]

The thread title was false and inappropriate, but I don’t agree with someone other than the poster himself changing it. He said what he said regardless of how stupid or malicious it might be, and now you’re basically putting words in his mouth making it appear he said something else.

If I post something, I’d rather have it deleted entirely than have it changed to make it look like I posted something else.

[sweetlou]

Again TLD Thats YOUR OPINION - IN MY OPINION SKYBOOKS 10% CASH BONUS IS A SCAM, AND YEAH I DO FEEL THEY HELD MY MONEY WITHOUT JUST CAUSE!!!

[sweetlou]

im gonna feel better when someone puts in 10 dimes, wins and tries to withdraw and accepts the 200 dollar Bonus from them CANT CASH OUT ANY MONEY and has to wager ANOTHER 45000 dollars before they can cash out...

[TLD]

You just run along and call the cops again and let them know the big bad bookie isn’t suspending his rules to give you the privilege of throwing money away.

Either that or shut up and meet the rollover you agreed to, like any sane person would do. What in the world is so difficult about meeting a 4x rollover that you have to be an asshole about it and babble on and on and on and on?

As I said, Skybook rises in my estimation for refusing to give in to a rat and a forum blackmailer.

[Mudcat]

The mods are trained here to immediately refute criticism toward the "golden books"....that's how it works especially when it comes to books like BoDog and Skybook. Books who are paying for advertising on SBR are untouchable....

To be honest, I didn't know Skybook was an advertiser here. (And all I've ever said about Bodog is that they don't take Canadian accounts therefore they can BITE ME!) I don't see a Skybook banner but maybe they are an advertiser in a way I don't know about. Honestly, it's not a part of the business I am involved in and it had no factor in my actions.

I've seen this exact situation of edited thread titles (and many variations) debated ad nauseum over the years. I know exactly how the arguments for both sides go round in circles. I see merit to the argument against what I did but I have formed my opinion and acted accordingly.

I may have a little more detail to add about this specific case in the fullness of time . . .

[TLD]

“I may have a little more detail to add about this specific case in the fullness of time . . .”


I find it hard to believe anyone could be as stupid as this poster is presenting himself, so I would have to think there is “a little more detail” to this case. Purely as a guess, would it have to do with there being something less than kosher about how he deposited the money and now he’s desperate to get out what he can—even at the price of forfeiting part of his balance—before they catch it?

[tony27]

Wow - well im glad u joined Tony 27 u said the exact same thing at that other book er i mean sportsforum... couldnt you think of anything more original that that YA UNORIGINAL PRICK hahaha Why dont u go BLOW MIKE FROM SKYBOOK? SINCE UR ALREADY SWINGING FROM HIS NUTSACK HAHAHA

no-self-control


cry-me-a-ri ver

[sweetlou]

Tony & TLD Just go back to the RX would ya?? they are gettin paid the big bucks by skybook... and im sure they sent you over here.. which is good for this site.. (more members)

im glad that some people can see that its UNETHICAL to HOLD ALL OF someones money...

If they were where i lived - This problem would of been taken care of yesterday...

[Patrick McIrish]

No scam was committed.

[Dark Horse]

Hey, whenever you accept a bonus ask the questions! Now you know.

If you don't want to wait for a withdrawal, just place a wager for the remaining amount at Skybook and for the same amount at another book on the other side of the game. You'll lose the juice, but it should take care of your problem right away.

By the way, Skybook also charges for Neteller withdrawal. lol