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  • dj_destroyer
    SBR MVP
    • 07-28-10
    • 3856

    #1
    CHECK IN if you are limited or banned from SIA (zeta, mathy, hareeba, etc.)
    Other than the obvious, how did you guys do it? I assume it's mostly picking off stale odds and slow-moving lines but there must be some other tricks?

    When exactly did they limit/ban you? Was it a certain winning amount? Or perhaps how long you'd be winning for? Maybe I can run hot but at a low level and extend my stay? Or should I just cream them and move on?

    I was talking to a sharp buddy the other day who said he wish he could open another account at SIA after being booted twice... Can't be that easy so what do I need to know? What are the tricks of the SIA trade?

    How are the live opportunities? Too much juice?

    What about overnight lines? Who runs the show there?

  • frizzelli
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-06-10
    • 8916

    #2
    If you don't get limited at SIA you should not be gambling.
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    • dj_destroyer
      SBR MVP
      • 07-28-10
      • 3856

      #3
      Originally posted by frizzelli
      If you don't get limited at SIA you should not be gambling.
      I never posted up because I always heard bad things... but I needed a book to go pro with so I can get a room at the bash. I settled on SIA.

      If it's THAT easy, how are they still in business?
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      • meckis
        SBR Sharp
        • 06-08-09
        • 438

        #4
        I was banned after one bet, joke of book.
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        • BrianLaverty
          SBR MVP
          • 07-02-07
          • 2183

          #5
          I got limited years ago after about 15 bets.... they are a joke and I'm not even allowed to play there at all anymore
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          • Jimmer Fredette
            SBR Rookie
            • 08-14-11
            • 47

            #6
            I was limited after winning about 4K
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            • MC PICKS
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-10-10
              • 6644

              #7
              Was kicked off after 2 months playing there.
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              • ZetaPsi808
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-18-08
                • 12119

                #8
                yeah i saw they had off numbers so i arbed them with matchbook. about 2 dimes on each side per arb. i ran my balance up to 8K in total, and then once i took a payout i was limited to $100 on everything the next day.

                my advice: bet way under the max limit ($1000) to fly under the radar. $300 is a good max unit size.
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                • sapidoc
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-25-10
                  • 1273

                  #9
                  Pounded off lines for max limits.

                  Profit ~12k, don't think they would have caught on as quick as long as I didn't w/d... once I did a w/d I was limited to 10% of max limits the next day.

                  They paid it all to me though once I sent in all the documents they requested. So legit book imo.

                  Pro Tip: Please don't waste a brand new SIA account by arbing
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                  • dj_destroyer
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-28-10
                    • 3856

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sapidoc

                    Pro Tip: Please don't waste a brand new SIA account by arbing



                    How big did your edge have to be sapidoc?
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                    • sapidoc
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-25-10
                      • 1273

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dj_destroyer


                      How big did your edge have to be sapidoc?
                      I was betting everything that had an edge. NFL limits are the highest on SIA... 2200 iirc, but college and totals are like 800 / 400 or something. I'm way below my full Kelly at those #s so it wasn't an issue of weather or not to bet the edge.... I would just hit every game that was greater than Pinny's vig-free.

                      I forget which game it was, but just this past season Pinny had something like Packers -6 -105 and SIA had like Packers -7.5 -120 I think it was the largest edge I saw last season.
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                      • dj_destroyer
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-28-10
                        • 3856

                        #12
                        How volatile was it? I feel like maybe I should actually invest in this. I only deposited $200 so I could become bro and get a room at the SBR bash but it sounds like I should have done this a long time ago...?
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                        • Jayvegas420
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 03-09-11
                          • 28229

                          #13
                          One of the worst sites to deal with.
                          The conflict of interest that arises from SIA & the Kanawakke Gaming commission is insultingly obvious & I don't know why anyone would play with them.
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                          • dj_destroyer
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-28-10
                            • 3856

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                            One of the worst sites to deal with.
                            The conflict of interest that arises from SIA & the Kanawakke Gaming commission is insultingly obvious & I don't know why anyone would play with them.
                            I know we beef so I mean this genuinely... but clearly all the people in this thread who say they've been limited have done so because they were winning. However, no one has complained about not getting paid.

                            Sounds like a winning combination to me.

                            Tonight, I played the top three edges:

                            Orlando +10 [1.91]
                            San Diego [2.00]
                            Houston [2.10]

                            Not much to write home about.
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                            • sapidoc
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-25-10
                              • 1273

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dj_destroyer
                              How volatile was it? I feel like maybe I should actually invest in this. I only deposited $200 so I could become bro and get a room at the SBR bash but it sounds like I should have done this a long time ago...?
                              If you can afford it, invest lots and hit every +EV spot for the max. I saw your OLG thread... think of this as a similar situation, but you don't need to parlay anything and you tend to have much larger edges. I didn't get to make it to MLB season, so can't really say what the edges are for that, but NFL was printing $ for me.
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                              • dj_destroyer
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-28-10
                                • 3856

                                #16
                                Originally posted by sapidoc
                                If you can afford it, invest lots and hit every +EV spot for the max. I saw your OLG thread... think of this as a similar situation, but you don't need to parlay anything and you tend to have much larger edges. I didn't get to make it to MLB season, so can't really say what the edges are for that, but NFL was printing $ for me.
                                You'd be surprised at the edges I can pull with the provincial corps... Up to 30% sometimes! Parlaying does suck though.



                                Do you think I could withdraw a little bit more steadily? Or just go ahead and try to smash them and run it up as high as possible and withdraw?.... I guess I can worry about that bridge when I cross it.
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                                • sapidoc
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-25-10
                                  • 1273

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by dj_destroyer
                                  You'd be surprised at the edges I can pull with the provincial corps... Up to 30% sometimes! Parlaying does suck though.



                                  Do you think I could withdraw a little bit more steadily? Or just go ahead and try to smash them and run it up as high as possible and withdraw?.... I guess I can worry about that bridge when I cross it.
                                  Your best approach is to run the account up as much as possible. I think you will still get flagged eventually, but if you w/d consistently and win they may flag & restrict your account sooner. If I could do it over I would not have withdrawn until I got limited.
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                                  • dj_destroyer
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-28-10
                                    • 3856

                                    #18
                                    True. Thanks for the advice. I'm going to have to be patient and wait for decent sized edges. No need to rush things.
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                                    • biggie12
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-30-05
                                      • 13796

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by sapidoc
                                      Your best approach is to run the account up as much as possible. I think you will still get flagged eventually, but if you w/d consistently and win they may flag & restrict your account sooner. If I could do it over I would not have withdrawn until I got limited.
                                      I Have Had many accounts. Consistent winning on a new account will get you limited very quickly. Doesn't matter the amount or if you are depositing withdrawing alot.
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                                      • Duff85
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-15-10
                                        • 2920

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                                        my advice: bet way under the max limit ($1000) to fly under the radar. $300 is a good max unit size.
                                        Bet dogs there for about four months at around $25 a game. Never requested a withdrawal and arbed my cash out of there on several occasions. Banned from betting sports.

                                        When they banned me I told them I never intended on cashing out and would rather let Pinnacle pay me out. I asked them reinstate my account on those grounds - they said no.

                                        Soon as you show you will value bet them all the time, they ship you out.
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                                        • fitguy67
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-13-11
                                          • 5082

                                          #21
                                          i too am looking for a book to go pro with...it MUST work well with Moneybookers=Skrill...

                                          How is SIA for MB deposits and especially withdrawals?
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                                          • dj_destroyer
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-28-10
                                            • 3856

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by fitguy67
                                            i too am looking for a book to go pro with...it MUST work well with Moneybookers=Skrill...

                                            How is SIA for MB deposits and especially withdrawals?
                                            I'd suggest SIA or Bet365... Moth give good bonuses and are exceptionally weak. Don't know about moneybookers, I use |nstad3bit or CC
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                                            • jayc88
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 12-30-07
                                              • 6785

                                              #23
                                              sia is solid,
                                              they booted me after i had run up my balance to around 11 000 $,
                                              i did not bet more than 200 there and i never made a withdrawal until i got limited,
                                              reiceved the money quickly within a week after all my docs were confirmed
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                                              • dj_destroyer
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-28-10
                                                • 3856

                                                #24
                                                Did you guys use Kelly to size your wagers? 1/2 Kelly?

                                                Did you just go with the edges you liked most?
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                                                • Duff85
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-15-10
                                                  • 2920

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by dj_destroyer
                                                  Did you guys use Kelly to size your wagers? 1/2 Kelly?

                                                  Did you just go with the edges you liked most?
                                                  I was betting between half and 1/5th Kelly depending on the market and betting everything on the board.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388208

                                                    #26
                                                    Duffy where do you play now??
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                                                    • durito
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-03-06
                                                      • 13173

                                                      #27
                                                      you guys are many years too late. they limit euro style now.
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                                                      • Duff85
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 06-15-10
                                                        • 2920

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        Duffy where do you play now??
                                                        Got accounts with most of the Aussie books, then Will Hill, 5Dimes, Pinny, BetFair, Cris. Prob run through getting limited at a few of these Euro books soon.
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                                                        • betplom
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 09-20-06
                                                          • 13444

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by meckis
                                                          I was banned after one bet, joke of book.
                                                          Plommer was limited after clicking the "confirm wager" button trying to place his first bet at SIA.

                                                          At least you got your bet in - plommer was given the heave ho before his first bet!
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                                                          • soccerkewl37
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 11-06-11
                                                            • 134

                                                            #30
                                                            Cheated there live system took em for a few k before got completely banned from live betting only. They are slow to take down lines like next to score goals for hockey and who will score last in the half for nba. Free money . Always been paid on the bets unless it was a mistake line they put up for example a + instead of a - on a value.
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                                                            • rm18
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-20-05
                                                              • 22292

                                                              #31
                                                              I have had account here here like 7 years lost small money at the beginning of my career then stayed away becasue of fear they were not safe in the process of trying to run my money up now. Always been a little confused how they do business though because people talk about they have great dog lines but they do not open them that way too much it is just they move off of square action and then I guess ban the people who come back on the other side seems weird?

                                                              How much is the most money you think it is safe to have on there?, I was going to hopefully try to win until bets get cut or banned so far nothing though I am probably not even up that much lifetime but have a pretty big balance from deposits so should be able to win a lot i think.
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                                                              • Jayvegas420
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 03-09-11
                                                                • 28229

                                                                #32
                                                                Start a thread.
                                                                Show your ever increasing balance & post some chat logs from the staff.
                                                                Would be nice to see what the limits are with these crooks!
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