Poker rollover sucks

robmpink · 04-23-12, 06:33 PM

sure does

frizzelli · 04-23-12, 06:35 PM

Walker knows what he is doing.

spankie · 04-23-12, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by frizzelli

Walker knows what he is doing.

frizz

i know you can even agree that this is unfair.

it would be different if the tourney was free to enter.

additionally, the 3x rollover on 20 points is so far out there its probably got a 5% chance of actually happening.

Ghenghis Kahn · 04-23-12, 06:38 PM

so if you book a win in any of the sbr poker tourneys you gotta roll over to get the points? lol do they not charge rake or something?

frizzelli · 04-23-12, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by spankie

frizz

i know you can even agree that this is unfair.

it would be different if the tourney was free to enter.

additionally, the 3x rollover on 20 points is so far out there its probably got a 5% chance of actually happening.

I could not agree more, but people are gonna play so Walker is gonna get that early retirement. I've only played in one Tourny so far.

spankie · 04-23-12, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

so if you book a win in any of the sbr poker tourneys you gotta roll over to get the points? lol do they not charge rake or something?

yes sbr poker championship has 3x rollover on all cashes.

even though you have to pay an entry fee.

VegasVixen · 04-23-12, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by spankie

Revisiting this.

let me get this straight

we pay points to enter a tourney, we battle our way through the tourney and finish in the points, and then we have to go roll those points over?

is there rollover on saturday and sunday tourneys?

for 6-15th...:
Prize-pool (Sunday)
1st. 32% real pts
2nd. 23% real pts
3rd. 17% real pts
4th. 15% real pts
5th. 13% real pts
6-10th. 150 poker pts
11-15th. 100 poker pts

what's even worse is when you finish 15th through 20th and have to rollover 20 damn points 3 times. good luck with that.

can you imagine if the world series of poker had rollover once you cashed?
This isn't the WSOP - it's SBR Points

shit's a joke.

hels · 04-23-12, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

so if you book a win in any of the sbr poker tourneys you gotta roll over to get the points? lol do they not charge rake or something?

Yes they do take rake from the ring games.

I have to agree with OP that it is not a very convenient process. It is what it is though and we have no say in the matter.

spankie · 04-23-12, 06:43 PM

Thanks for clarifying weekend tourneys VV. <3

spankie · 04-23-12, 06:46 PM

15th-20th place should be 1x rollover max.

those are the spots that are almost impossible to rollover.

not that i agree with rollover in the first place.

VegasVixen · 04-23-12, 06:50 PM

I would agree, however sometimes you can hit big during your forced rollover... I think it all evens out the more you play.
My 3 fromvlast week look like this:
won 200/rolled 184
won 325/rolled 504
won 150/rolled 0 (spent)

Total won: 675/ tot rolled 688.

I'm pretty convinced the cash games would be a ghost town without the forced rollovers...

spankie · 04-23-12, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by VegasVixen

I'm pretty convinced the cash games would be a ghost town without the forced rollovers...

i don't disagree with that at all.

less volume, but, at least you would be playing with your own points, not having to chase down a rollover dream.

i don't have much problem usually rolling over like 200-300 points, but the lower amounts are tougher.

Carseller4 · 04-23-12, 06:55 PM

I think a 2X rollover would be better.

Ghenghis Kahn · 04-23-12, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by VegasVixen

I'm pretty convinced the cash games would be a ghost town without the forced rollovers...

that makes sense but why not just reduce rake? or have free rolls with rollovers?

VegasVixen · 04-23-12, 06:59 PM

LOL as I typed this I just finished 19th & have to rollover 25 pts

God Bless Karma

spankie · 04-23-12, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by VegasVixen

LOL as I typed this I just finished 19th & have to rollover 25 pts

God Bless Karma

can you give us the outcome on this?

i hope you roll them over 500x and win 500000 points.

konck · 04-23-12, 07:13 PM

Its simple math give out 1 million pts take back 990000

konck · 04-23-12, 07:14 PM

You didnt think it was real poker did you?

spankie · 04-23-12, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by konck

You didnt think it was real poker did you?

yeah actually i had a custom made jersey with SPANKIE on the back

this is pretty serious here

Roadtrip635 · 04-23-12, 07:24 PM

It gets tedious if you cash often or let them pile up. They should at least let you combine cashes that are less than 100 pts. I haven't played since Ryder Cup qualifying, partly due to lack of time and partly to having more rollovers to go through. I still have 8 rollovers totaling a little over 3k to rollover from earlier this year, not real interested in adding more rollovers especially for less than 100 pts.
20point rollovers?

It's like that Seinfeld episode where he has all those Japanese royalty checks to endorse for like 12 cents each.

spankie · 04-23-12, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by Roadtrip635

It gets tedious if you cash often or let them pile up. They should at least let you combine cashes that are less than 100 pts. I haven't played since Ryder Cup qualifying, partly due to lack of time and partly to having more rollovers to go through. I still have 8 rollovers totaling a little over 3k to rollover from earlier this year, not real interested in adding more rollovers especially for less than 100 pts.
20point rollovers?

It's like that Seinfeld episode where he has all those Japanese royalty checks to endorse for like 12 cents each.

wow combining rollovers would be amazing, but i doubt they will consider that.

roadie, i hope you complete your rollovers

pokernut9999 · 04-23-12, 07:38 PM

Don't ******* play ......

daneblazer · 04-23-12, 07:45 PM

The overlay makes up for the rollover. I came up with some half ass equation months ago to determine whether or not playing a tournament would be worth it if a player had to roll over their winnings. Had trouble trying to include a variable to account for varying skill levels so I scrapped it. These daily tournaments are definitely worth it unless a players skill level is extremely bad ...so...

Quitcherbitchin

a4u2fear · 04-23-12, 08:02 PM

I would agree, but the points put up by the poker players do not consist of all of the tourney points, that's why you have to roll over. If you want no rollover, then SBr would take away most of the points. If they are going to add points to buff it up, then You will pay homage by spending time in the poker room

sweethook · 04-23-12, 08:14 PM

i disagree points are FREE , free i tell you .its like someone gave you free cash to play with , roll it and its yours. even if its 10x roll over

nomeansno · 04-23-12, 08:24 PM

Math's not that hard dude..
Max 50 players per tourney is 500 points from buyins, but there is a lot more added, since first is already 400.

Bcatswin · 04-23-12, 08:24 PM

I dont like it. Have not been playing near as much.

spankie · 04-23-12, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by nomeansno

Math's not that hard dude..
Max 50 players per tourney is 500 points from buyins, but there is a lot more added, since first is already 400.

math huh.

maybe justin7 will chime in on the odds on rolling over vs not rolling over.

yisman · 04-23-12, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by daneblazer

The overlay makes up for the rollover. I came up with some half ass equation months ago to determine whether or not playing a tournament would be worth it if a player had to roll over their winnings. Had trouble trying to include a variable to account for varying skill levels so I scrapped it. These daily tournaments are definitely worth it unless a players skill level is extremely bad ...so...

even for a bad player, the daily tournaments would still have a higher expected value than the 11 point entry fee.

Let's say on average 46 players play in a tournament. And then let's further say Player X is so bad at ring games that he only rolls over half of what he starts with.

It would still be worth it because 2500 poker points are given out (so let's say they're worth 1,250 for Player X).

k13 · 04-23-12, 08:33 PM

You should end up with more points than you are rolling over in the long run if you are a competent player.

It can be a bit tedious but just go to the higher buy in tables and get it done faster.

k13 · 04-23-12, 08:38 PM

Let me check my last few rollovers.....

65 points = 120 points
150 points = 260 points
200 points = 373 points
35 points = 82 points
30 points = 0 points

yisman · 04-23-12, 08:38 PM

I hate ring games too. The solution for guys who hate them so much is to do what Rudy did a few months ago. Get a few guys to agree to all in on a few hands (no matter what they're dealt). That way you don't have to actually play and it gives everyone there a shot. Of course you have to only use trustworthy people, but Rudy did it and it worked.

spankie · 04-23-12, 08:40 PM

do we agree that the smaller cashes like 90 points or less are more difficult to rollover 3x than say 400 points?

am i this shitty at poker? be honest here.

GOIRISH · 04-23-12, 08:43 PM

its easy rolling over high amounts. but say you have to roll over 20 your pretty much ******.