The Kid is history gone up in smoke
SF Giants will be looking for away to get out of Lincecum's Contract
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Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
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#1SF Giants will be looking for away to get out of Lincecum's ContractTags: None -
Monitor-TanSBR MVP
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#2What happened to him.. He was so dominant..Comment -
LordVodkaSBR Hall of Famer
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#3Four runs already in one inning? I remember when he wouldn't give up four runs in five games combined.Comment -
Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
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#4he just got a 2yr $40 million contractComment -
lunchbawksSBR Posting Legend
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#5he smokes weed, maybe he smoked too muchComment -
InTheDrinkSBR Posting Legend
- 11-23-09
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#6baseball reference has a stat pitches per start....timmeh's number is 106 over his career....cant find where how it ranks among other active pitchers but i gotta think that's high this day and age
for comparison, verlander's career average is 95 pitchers....11 extra pitches under stress is a LOTComment -
EaglesPhan36SBR Aristocracy
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#7Lincecum has had stretches like this almost ever year. Think it is getting extra attention because it's the beginning of the season.Comment -
BoutDemCowboysSBR MVP
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BoutDemCowboysSBR MVP
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#10Question for you all.... I dont know how many are into fantasy baseball, but he is on my team. Should I trade him now, or hope he regains his composure? I'm stuck in between a rock and a hard place here..........Comment -
EaglesPhan36SBR Aristocracy
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#11Pitchers get that dead arm period a lot early in the year. Unless he's still stuck on low velocity at the end of the month, I wouldn't be overly concerned. Certainly better ways to start a season, but it is what it is.Comment -
EaglesPhan36SBR Aristocracy
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#12Panic mode won't yield you much right now. No one is going to give you good value for what he's really worth. I'd hang tough personally.Comment -
HoulihansTXBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#13Trade him, and pick up Lance Lynn/Cahill/PeavyComment -
seaborneqSBR Posting Legend
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#16Three starts is not a career. Giants shouldn't overreact and neither should your fantasy team.Comment -
pacocnSBR Posting Legend
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#17The book on Timeee has been get to him early and teams are doing just
that. He will turn it around.Comment -
Rich BoySBR Hall of Famer
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#18This looks like 2010 all over againComment -
jbart28SBR MVP
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#19His velocity started going down at the end of last year. He relies on perfect, well timed mechanics in order to get max value which he needs to be at 92-95. If one thing is wrong with his delivery his velocity will be down.
His arm slot is inconsistent and his release point is not getting over top of his body for max leverage.
BUT HERE IS MY PREDICTION. TIM LINCECUM HAS A TORN ULNER COLLATERAL LIGAMENT AND WILL NEED TOMMY JOHN SURGERY BY THE ALL STAR BREAK. I THINK HE IS PITCHING WITH A TEAR RIGHT NOW.
I had to same problems he is having right now. lack of command, just enough loss in velocity but not too much where you arent totally ineffective. The stability of the elbow is in jeopardy. U heard it here firstComment -
JutzuSBR Wise Guy
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#20Timmy will reach 93-95 mph on his fastball by May, I believe he's a slow starter but a great finisherComment -
Marigold HDSBR Hall of Famer
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#21Nice post JbartComment -
neverstoppers23SBR Hall of Famer
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#22small body frame, and one of the worst deliveries in the game putting pressure on that small body frame. wearing him down faster then most pitchers.
mlb contracts are almost impossible to get out of though so I don't know what you mean by Giants are trying to get out of itComment -
neverstoppers23SBR Hall of Famer
- 11-26-09
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#23His velocity started going down at the end of last year. He relies on perfect, well timed mechanics in order to get max value which he needs to be at 92-95. If one thing is wrong with his delivery his velocity will be down.
His arm slot is inconsistent and his release point is not getting over top of his body for max leverage.
BUT HERE IS MY PREDICTION. TIM LINCECUM HAS A TORN ULNER COLLATERAL LIGAMENT AND WILL NEED TOMMY JOHN SURGERY BY THE ALL STAR BREAK. I THINK HE IS PITCHING WITH A TEAR RIGHT NOW.
I had to same problems he is having right now. lack of command, just enough loss in velocity but not too much where you arent totally ineffective. The stability of the elbow is in jeopardy. U heard it here firstComment -
jbart28SBR MVP
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Strasburg- same thing. His landing is out in front of his arm causing serious strain on the elbow as it fights to catch up and get over the body. Lincecum will have an MRI soon watch.
When ace after ace blows an elbow from the same biomechanical flaw, Tommy John surgery keeps them in the game. But science, not the scalpel, is the real solution, writes Lindsay Berra in ESPN The Magazine. Too bad few MLB teams are paying attention.
take a look at this if you get a chance.Comment -
jbart28SBR MVP
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#25I have extensive knowledge of this because I had Tommy John when I was in the minors. It would take too long to long to type everything regarding the discovery phase of finding the tear which isnt always easy, to the actual surgery, rehab, mental challenges of letting your arm go after full rehab, etc.Comment -
EVPlusSBR MVP
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#26I have extensive knowledge of this because I had Tommy John when I was in the minors. It would take too long to long to type everything regarding the discovery phase of finding the tear which isnt always easy, to the actual surgery, rehab, mental challenges of letting your arm go after full rehab, etc.
If he and his team suspect this, a check up is in order. The possibilty of a micro tear certainly does effect how I will be capping games he's pitching.Comment -
jbart28SBR MVP
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#27When I had my diagnosis it was in college and I was sent to UMASS Medical Center in Springfield to see Dr. Pappas who was the red sox doctor. He missed the tear and said I only had tendinitis and a bone spur. LOL.
So I kept pitching since I was on scholarship and did ultra sound and muscle stim and took some anti inflammatory stuff. I was still around 88-91 but command was way off and recovery time between starts was longer.
It wasnt until I reached the minors that I was referred to Duke University and had a MRI and that revealed nothing. But then I did an MRI-arthrogram and they inserted the die and found the tear. The doctor took my palmarus longus tendon from my wrist and drilled the elbow and used the tendon as a ligament replacement. I basically had to learn to throw all over again. It was very humbling and a long road back.Comment -
stuck621SBR Wise Guy
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#28Theyre probably gonna move cain to the starting position and put lincy at third come playoff timeComment -
Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
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freeVICKSBR Hall of Famer
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#30He was def overused as a youngster. Showing signs of that nowComment -
konckSBR Posting Legend
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#31Could be another BirdComment -
cohbullSBR Wise Guy
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#32Still rather have him over Zito...Comment -
EVPlusSBR MVP
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#33When I had my diagnosis it was in college and I was sent to UMASS Medical Center in Springfield to see Dr. Pappas who was the red sox doctor. He missed the tear and said I only had tendinitis and a bone spur. LOL.
So I kept pitching since I was on scholarship and did ultra sound and muscle stim and took some anti inflammatory stuff. I was still around 88-91 but command was way off and recovery time between starts was longer.
It wasnt until I reached the minors that I was referred to Duke University and had a MRI and that revealed nothing. But then I did an MRI-arthrogram and they inserted the die and found the tear. The doctor took my palmarus longus tendon from my wrist and drilled the elbow and used the tendon as a ligament replacement. I basically had to learn to throw all over again. It was very humbling and a long road back.
And MRIs are only as good as the person who reads them.
BOL with your health and wagering.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#34I think Barty knows what he is talking about
Lincy could be done
Never bet on himComment -
SamfourteenSBR High Roller
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#35After his rough start he probably has little or no value. If he could win a couple of games then you might get better return. IMOComment
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