1st Gallup Poll shows Romney edging Obama

[Sam Odom]

Basically a coin-toss

Mittens 47
Barry 45

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-romney-gallup-poll-20120416,0,1922503.story

Lefties I chat with are in SHOCK - Why ? They honestly believe Obama should be ahead by double digits with that war on woman thang going sooooo good for them

[dante1]

Yep, I saw that too, in fact a couple polls had R up by three and four points. This is going to the wire I think. If the economy improves greatly O is in, if not it will be a horse race.

[ttwarrior1]

race riots are gonna be awful

[Waterstpub87]

CNN had another poll that showed Obama massively ahead. It be nice to get accurate polls for once.

[golfrulz]

The Romney campaign’s efforts to win women voters with a ginned-up controversy last week over a Democratic strategist’s comments on Ann Romney appears to have fallen short, as new CNN poll taken this weekend finds President Obama with a formidable 16 point lead among women over his presumed GOP challenger:

– Among women, Obama has a 16 point lead over Romney, 55 percent to 39 percent — virtually unchanged from last month.
– Asked to the name the candidate who “is in touch with the problems facing women today,” 55 percent said Obama, 27 percent said Romney. That’s a 28 point gap.

Obama is also ahead on almost every other key issue. For instance, 51 percent saying Obama “is in touch with the problems facing middle class Americans today,” compared to just 33 percent who said Romney. Meanwhile, a wide margin pick Obama as the best candidate who “can handle the responsibilities of commander in chief,” 52 percent to 36 percent.
By a greater than ten points margin each, respondents picked Obama over Romney as more “likable,” “honest and trustworthy,” inspiring, admirable, and as the “strong and decisive leader.

[rocky502]

Golf, those numbers you just quoted above should really be scary for liberals Obama is ahead in all the warm fuzzy, touchy feely categories. But he is so incompetent they are willing to vote for Romney. How else. could he be up by 20-30 points in all these "likeability" categories and be in a dead heat? So the country is saying, I like him, he identifies with me, but he doesn't have the business accumen to balance a checkbook.

[dante1]

If O would ever decide to talk directly to the people and explain his positions and why he believes in those positions this race would be over, IMO. He connects with people when he takes the time to do it. Why he isn't explaining this health care deal is beyond all my comprehension. When I look at this health care legislation it is mostly a positive for the American people. Tell the fvcking people, talk to the people, it is what he does best. A Mitt narrative compared to an Obama narrative is no contest. The likability factor is too great.

[ProfaneReality]

Sam

You are equally as annoying as FH

FH goes away, Sam pops back up posting like a mad man. Odd

[Sam Odom]

when you read a poll be sure to check the methodology used...

some polls will have 10% or greater non-registered voters participating <---- these are less reliable as to actual outcomes

[ProfaneReality]

Sam and FishHead joined on same date as well..

[Sam Odom]

Sam and FishHead joined on same date as well..

[ProfaneReality]

...

Sam Odom is an odd story.

He was originally a ghost of that poster that died a year or two back. I forget his name but some people here will know. He posted more at theRX and EOG I think. And as I say, sadly, he died.

It was not until awhile after his death - and the Sam Odom ghost was posting here - that someone remembered that the dead guy had clearly admitted being Sam Odom. The question was brought up of who was running the account now and why. There were threads and proof. I'm sure I could find them if anyone cares. (Perhaps a job for taco?)

Anyway, one night shortly after that bit of weirdness was brought to light, Sam Odom deleted a whole whack of his posts here and took his Road To Perdition avatar and disappeared. I imagine if you looked at his posting history you could find the exact night.

And now he's back. Best guess: someone trying to pump themselves up via a ghost. Zany forum shenanigans.

[d2bets]

Obama inching higher at Intrade, now 61.2%. Don't be fooled by so-called polls. The media wants us to think it's a race. It's not. Obama will win by more than in '08.

[minet123]

one handout on what Mormons believe in Southern Ohio,Northern Virginia,and the tri cities of North Carolina on Sunday morning after church will seal Romney's fate

[Shaudius]

when you read a poll be sure to check the methodology used...

some polls will have 10% or greater non-registered voters participating <---- these are less reliable as to actual outcomes

Oh, you mean like the Rasmussen poll that you touted a few days ago showing Romney "outside the margin of error"(even though he wasn't) that was measured in likely voters and not registered voters.

[Sam Odom]

couple of you guys are confirming one of my points in OP --- If Obama is not leading by double digits you are shocked and the poll is rigged

Shaudius , you are confused again... NON-registered

[Thor4140]

If O would ever decide to talk directly to the people and explain his positions and why he believes in those positions this race would be over, IMO. He connects with people when he takes the time to do it. Why he isn't explaining this health care deal is beyond all my comprehension. When I look at this health care legislation it is mostly a positive for the American people. Tell the fvcking people, talk to the people, it is what he does best. A Mitt narrative compared to an Obama narrative is no contest. The likability factor is too great.

Same old tired shit most democrats do. They have no clue how to get their message out. They could cure cancer and somehow the other side would say it is a bad thing and u basically won't hear about it again. It sickens me to pull that democratic lever but the alternative is so much worse. I think Lewis Black said it the best. It is like two buckets of shit just one smells a little better.

[dante1]

Same old tired shit most democrats do. They have no clue how to get their message out. They could cure cancer and somehow the other side would say it is a bad thing and u basically won't here about it again. It sickens me to pull that democratic lever but the alternative is so much worse. I think Lewis Black said it the best. It is like two buckets of shit just one smells a little better.

Yep, the R are much better communicating to their base. Just think about it, they can back an idea that the rich should not pay more and get away with it. For years they blatantly got away with race bias under the states' rights bs, they backed wars Vietnam and others with national security bs, they have millions of people convinced that 97% of scientists are lying and engaged in junk science. This takes some serious slick talking and some seriously stupid people.

[Shaudius]

couple of you guys are confirming one of my points in OP --- If Obama is not leading by double digits you are shocked and the poll is rigged

Shaudius , you are confused again... NON-registered

What exactly do you think the different between a registered voter poll and a likely voter poll is? Anyone running a likely voter poll is absolutely guaranteed to have 10%+ non-registered voters, otherwise they'd also report registered voter numbers.

[SBR_John]

Obama inching higher at Intrade, now 61.2%. Don't be fooled by so-called polls. The media wants us to think it's a race. It's not. Obama will win by more than in '08.

I would be willing to stake action that Obama wins LESS delegates in 12 than he did in 08 or I'd be willing to bet he receives LESS overall votes. Points or cash.

For starters he is not the moderate that he pretended to be in 08 and this time around there is a true moderate in the race. He will probably win because incumbents almost always do but as the 2010 elections showed, there is not a big appetite for tax and spend liberals.

[ProfaneReality]

I would be willing to stake action that Obama wins LESS delegates in 12 than he did in 08 or I'd be willing to bet he receives LESS overall votes. Points or cash.

For starters he is not the moderate that he pretended to be in 08 and this time around there is a true moderate in the race. He will probably win because incumbents almost always do but as the 2010 elections showed, there is not a big appetite for tax and spend liberals.

Whoa ! You think Obama ran as a moderate in 08 ??? Moderates dont fire up young progessives like they were in 08. Obama ran as a liberal, and he has been a moderate. Only severely right wing crazies think he has been a liberal president.

[Sam Odom]

Several groups of voters can be isolated in pre-election surveys: First is the group of all national adults, which is the basic sample designed to represent all adults 18 years of age and older. Second is the group of voters who say they are registered and able to vote in their local area, which is the group most commonly used for ballot and other questions directly related to the election. And third is the group of voters considered most likely to vote -- "likely voters," which is the group designed to be most predictive of those voters who actually turn out and vote on Election Day.

[SBR_John]

Whoa ! You think Obama ran as a moderate in 08 ??? Moderates dont fire up young progessives like they were in 08. Obama ran as a liberal, and he has been a moderate. Only severely right wing crazies think he has been a liberal president.

Then I am a severely, severely, severely, severely, severely right wing crazie. I could of sworn he said he was going to work with both parties and "change" the way business is done in Washington. Maybe I was so far right I was a zombie when he said he was the guy of change. Only problem is I voted for him. I'm down for change, but kind of draw the line at socialism and spending us into bankruptcy. We need to go back to where we were before Mr Change's amateur hour presidency started. He is the worst president in American history imo.

[Shaudius]

Several groups of voters can be isolated in pre-election surveys: First is the group of all national adults, which is the basic sample designed to represent all adults 18 years of age and older. Second is the group of voters who say they are registered and able to vote in their local area, which is the group most commonly used for ballot and other questions directly related to the election. And third is the group of voters considered most likely to vote -- "likely voters," which is the group designed to be most predictive of those voters who actually turn out and vote on Election Day.

Yes, that's what Gallup does, that is not what Rasmussen does.

[Shaudius]

Then I am a severely, severely, severely, severely, severely right wing crazie. I could of sworn he said he was going to work with both parties and "change" the way business is done in Washington. Maybe I was so far right I was a zombie when he said he was the guy of change. Only problem is I voted for him. I'm down for change, but kind of draw the line at socialism and spending us into bankruptcy. We need to go back to where we were before Mr Change's amateur hour presidency started. He is the worst president in American history imo.

Its pretty hard to work with a party one of whose leaders said that their number one political priority should be to make you a one term President. Do you really think the Republicans in Congress are willing to compromise at all on anything that would actually make Obama look good?

[Sam Odom]

Anyone running a likely voter poll is absolutely guaranteed to have 10%+ non-registered voters, otherwise they'd also report registered voter numbers.

100% incorrect - next strawman....

God Bless

[SBR_John]

While both men are doing well within their respective parties, the most notable finding came among self-described independents, a swing voting bloc that could very well determine the outcome of this fall's election. According to Gallup, Romney leads Obama among indie voters by 6 points, 45 percent to 39 percent.

The survey is Gallup's first daily tracking poll of the general election.

This.

[Shaudius]

100% incorrect - next strawman....

God Bless

Dude, why would I listen to you about anything regarding public opinion polling you don't even know what the term "margin of error" means.

[King Mayan]

talking about strawman..

Santorum just got out, which gave a boost to romney in a poll 7 months away from the election..



Can a mod consolidate this old retards threads??? Am i going to see a daily obama thread for the next 7 months from this senile fukk???..

[Sam Odom]

This.

As i pointed out the other day... Obama's Angry Black Man Routine doesnt play well with Indies. Big blunder in the Rose Garden the other week telling the Supreme Court how to do their job - also did away with the image of him being an expert on the Constitution

[ByeShea]

Why he isn't explaining this health care deal is beyond all my comprehension. When I look at this health care legislation it is mostly a positive for the American people.

No. It's not. And it's why he's a lock to lose in November.

The only difference between now and November 2010 is that the window for Obama to turn around the economy has shut. He is toast. Unless things start breaking his way, this one won't be close.

[Sam Odom]

the window for Obama to turn around the economy has shut. He is toast.

i do NOT think so.... he needs a good robust Summer tho

[ProfaneReality]

Then I am a severely, severely, severely, severely, severely right wing crazie. I could of sworn he said he was going to work with both parties and "change" the way business is done in Washington. Maybe I was so far right I was a zombie when he said he was the guy of change. Only problem is I voted for him. I'm down for change, but kind of draw the line at socialism and spending us into bankruptcy. We need to go back to where we were before Mr Change's amateur hour presidency started. He is the worst president in American history imo.

There's no way you believe what you just wrote, no way. I can only hope this post was inspired by Loshak and his Colbert-esque style.

[ByeShea]

i do NOT think so.... he needs a good robust Summer tho

You mean the "green shoots" summer of 2010? I don't think so.

With a housing market this week, it will be years before the economy can spin on a dime and boom. At best there could be moderate growth, but nothing that will matter when unemployment hovers above 8% with a weak dollar and a government that tells its people that the higher prices they see is not inflation.

At this point, Obama is not in control of his own fate. He is done.

[neverstoppers23]

obama is winning independents, and basically doing great in every other segment of the poll.
like i said before national polls are meaningless. i would be saying the same thing if obama was up 5, its all about the battle ground states. which obama is winning as of last check a couple days ago in recent polls.
there is so much time left, rommney will f him self up. just a matter of time.