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  • billysink
    Restricted User
    • 03-29-09
    • 5172

    #1
    Sports Forum Industry
    Some very poor numbers across the board for all leading sports forum sites in the last 3 months. Last few weeks have been dismal. Reach ranks and overall traffic down. Contests and perks generate little or no traffic.



    Discuss.
  • frizzelli
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-06-10
    • 8916

    #2
    168 posts till I will actually acknowledge your existence on the forum.
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    • billysink
      Restricted User
      • 03-29-09
      • 5172

      #3
      Originally posted by frizzelli
      168 posts till I will actually acknowledge your existence on the forum.
      You just did idiot.

      Now that we have one of the retards accounted for, lets hear some conversation on this important topic from someone who matters.
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      • Brock Landers
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 06-30-08
        • 45359

        #4
        this is for JJGOLD to answer for, he is Mr SBR
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        • opie1988
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-12-10
          • 23429

          #5
          Billy.....nobody wants to discuss the state of the fukkin' online chit-chat room industry.

          The fukkin' NHL playoffs & bases are in full swing, pal.

          Turn on your fukkin' tv, or even better, go see a game! Lets worry about this nonsense some other time.
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          • billysink
            Restricted User
            • 03-29-09
            • 5172

            #6
            Serious topic gents. I have been posting on sports message boards for over 15 years and enjoy it as do most of you, for whatever your reasoning.

            Perhaps we can give the site holders some insight as to what we can do to make it better and more relevant.
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            • billysink
              Restricted User
              • 03-29-09
              • 5172

              #7
              Two retards accounted for.

              Go back to making up stories Op. You don't speak for me or anyone else here.

              Hopefully we have someone who is intelligent enough to discuss.
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              • billysink
                Restricted User
                • 03-29-09
                • 5172

                #8
                Brock you are as relevant as he is here. What is your opinion.
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                • frizzelli
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-06-10
                  • 8916

                  #9
                  Originally posted by billysink
                  Serious topic gents. I have been posting on sports message boards for over 15 years and enjoy it as do most of you, for whatever your reasoning.

                  Perhaps we can give the site holders some insight as to what we can do to make it better and more relevant.
                  Never fukkin heard of ya pal.
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                  • BestPlay2day
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-25-08
                    • 5794

                    #10
                    Traffic always goes down after the Superbowl, believe it's been like that every year. Lots of posters will be back once football starts up. Plenty of us here for baseball, NBA, and NHL playoffs.
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                    • billysink
                      Restricted User
                      • 03-29-09
                      • 5172

                      #11
                      Originally posted by frizzelli
                      Never fukkin heard of ya pal.
                      Don't matter to me. Being acknowledged by a simple fuk like you is not high on my list of priorities. You are irrelevant to me as well.
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                      • billysink
                        Restricted User
                        • 03-29-09
                        • 5172

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BestPlay2day
                        Traffic always goes down after the Superbowl, believe it's been like that every year. Lots of posters will be back once football starts up. Plenty of us here for baseball, NBA, and NHL playoffs.
                        I see that football is and always has been the number one traffic fuel at all forums. It would appear the falloff this year is greater than past.
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                        • frizzelli
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-06-10
                          • 8916

                          #13
                          Originally posted by billysink
                          I see that football is and always has been the number one traffic fuel at all forums. It would appear the falloff this year is greater than past.
                          Who are ya guy???
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                          • Brock Landers
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 06-30-08
                            • 45359

                            #14
                            Originally posted by billysink
                            Brock you are as relevant as he is here. What is your opinion.
                            lack of money movement sites, like a Neteller, and the overall difficulty of online gambling for US players has dampened the boards, less ability to play, less amount of players. ETC

                            Like i said, JJGOLD needs to chime in here, he is the face of SBR
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                            • billysink
                              Restricted User
                              • 03-29-09
                              • 5172

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Brock Landers
                              lack of money movement sites, like a Neteller, and the overall difficulty of online gambling for US players has dampened the boards, less ability to play, less amount of players. ETC

                              Like i said, JJGOLD needs to chime in here, he is the face of SBR
                              Noted.

                              I often forget how hard it is for Americans to bet online.

                              I would like to hear from Gold.
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                              • billysink
                                Restricted User
                                • 03-29-09
                                • 5172

                                #16
                                Originally posted by frizzelli
                                Who are ya guy???
                                We have already established that I am irrelevant to you and vice versa. No fukkin need to change that pal. You got something relevant to add to the discussion, feel free.

                                Carry on.
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                                • darkhat
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-18-10
                                  • 5722

                                  #17
                                  Traffic is obv based largely on sports seasons.. i.e. football as noted. Traffic here is not bad.. If you think this is bad, you should see the 5 active clowns over at the RX talking about the best method to deposit into easystreet.. as the RX promotes them as an awesome book.

                                  I would drink bleach before posting on the rx..
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                                  • SBR_John
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-12-05
                                    • 16471

                                    #18
                                    It's seasonal. There will be one more mini spike when the NBA playoffs start and then another lull. Once the MLB all star game hits in mid July crowds will start to return.
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                                    • billysink
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 03-29-09
                                      • 5172

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by darkhat
                                      Traffic is obv based largely on sports seasons.. i.e. football as noted. Traffic here is not bad.. If you think this is bad, you should see the 5 active clowns over at the RX talking about the best method to deposit into easystreet.. as the RX promotes them as an awesome book.

                                      I would drink bleach before posting on the rx..
                                      RX and EOG sites performance is almost to a point where they are not longer part of the active landscape. Numbers dictate that it is Covers.com then SBR and then a bunch of also rans.
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                                      • darkhat
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-18-10
                                        • 5722

                                        #20
                                        The RX is a dead wasteland.. the red headed step child of forums.
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                                        • billysink
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 03-29-09
                                          • 5172

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SBR_John
                                          It's seasonal. There will be one more mini spike when the NBA playoffs start and then another lull. Once the MLB all star game hits in mid July crowds will start to return.
                                          John, you don't see the numbers are a bit worse this year than the last few in terms of the post football fallout?
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                                          • SBR_John
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-12-05
                                            • 16471

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by billysink
                                            John, you don't see the numbers are a bit worse this year than the last few in terms of the post football fallout?
                                            Let me take a look at the stats.
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                                            • muldoon
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-04-10
                                              • 4397

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by billysink
                                              Some very poor numbers across the board for all leading sports forum sites in the last 3 months.
                                              Weird...what on earth could account for it....I follow the traffic numbers also and it's so weird. Big spike first week in Feb...then tailed off until Mid March...then a small spike in late May early June....then a climb in August.

                                              So weird.
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                                              • gregm
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-14-11
                                                • 3535

                                                #24
                                                I saw this thread the other day about the about the history of sbr http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...eated-sbr.html


                                                SBR john said he started back in the late 1990s-2000 with a one page site and they didn't hire their first employee until 2004. Sbr is light years ahead of these other gambling forums except for the home page which looks alot like covers home page. If they ever really expanded sbr tv and developed into a more mens lifestyle type site/portal with a more broad range of mens -lifestyle affiliate links than just the usual sportsbook links, they would be alot better than askmen ever was.

                                                Of course askmen has done really well, I just wish sbr would expand into different areas like those lifestyle portals like askmen and maxim,etc, people would probably do alot of their shopping here if the links were more prominent and the landing(home) page were better.
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                                                • billysink
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 03-29-09
                                                  • 5172

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by muldoon
                                                  Weird...what on earth could account for it....I follow the traffic numbers also and it's so weird. Big spike first week in Feb...then tailed off until Mid March...then a small spike in late May early June....then a climb in August.

                                                  So weird.
                                                  I should have prefaced my statement that even taking account of the seasonal numbers, the overall numbers are down.
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                                                  • muldoon
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-04-10
                                                    • 4397

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by billysink
                                                    I should have prefaced my statement that even taking account of the seasonal numbers, the overall numbers are down.
                                                    Post your raw numbers
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                                                    • billysink
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 03-29-09
                                                      • 5172

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by gregm
                                                      I saw this thread the other day about the about the history of sbr http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...eated-sbr.html


                                                      SBR john said he started back in the late 1990s-2000 with a one page site and they didn't hire their first employee until 2004. Sbr is light years ahead of these other gambling forums except for the home page which looks alot like covers home page. If they ever really expanded sbr tv and developed into a more mens lifestyle type site/portal with a more broad range of mens -lifestyle affiliate links than just the usual sportsbook links, they would be alot better than askmen ever was.

                                                      Of course askmen has done really well, I just wish sbr would expand into different areas like those lifestyle portals like askmen and maxim,etc, people would probably do alot of their shopping here if the links were more prominent and the landing(home) page were better.
                                                      Being a long time sports forum community participant, i have noticed that forum content has changed over the years. Much less relevant gaming talk, handicapping discussion really down (and low calibre), much more social environment across forums and sub forums. Guys post to be part of something rather than to benefit from something.
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                                                      • billysink
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 03-29-09
                                                        • 5172

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by muldoon
                                                        Post your raw numbers
                                                        Would have to wait until I get back to the office as I do not have a scanner at home. Shows about an 11% dropoff over the last two years. That is for the forum genre and is not site specific. Actually part of a thesis paper I was given to read.
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                                                        • SBR_John
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-12-05
                                                          • 16471

                                                          #29
                                                          This is year over year stats of how many users logged in. Its the best indicator. At first glance it would seem we have a little growth but not much. Of course this time of year is somewhat statically meaningless.

                                                          April 01, 2011

                                                          4599
                                                          April 02, 2011

                                                          4550
                                                          April 03, 2011

                                                          4471
                                                          April 04, 2011

                                                          4676
                                                          April 05, 2011

                                                          4584
                                                          April 06, 2011

                                                          4649
                                                          April 07, 2011

                                                          4478
                                                          April 08, 2011

                                                          4536
                                                          April 09, 2011

                                                          4391
                                                          April 10, 2011

                                                          4440
                                                          April 11, 2011

                                                          4533
                                                          April 12, 2011

                                                          4576
                                                          April 13, 2011

                                                          ---------------------------------------------------

                                                          April 01, 2012

                                                          4370
                                                          April 02, 2012

                                                          4890
                                                          April 03, 2012

                                                          4882
                                                          April 04, 2012

                                                          4937
                                                          April 05, 2012

                                                          4921
                                                          April 06, 2012

                                                          4818
                                                          April 07, 2012

                                                          4688
                                                          April 08, 2012

                                                          4724
                                                          April 09, 2012

                                                          4908
                                                          April 10, 2012

                                                          4942
                                                          April 11, 2012

                                                          4893
                                                          April 12, 2012

                                                          4846
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                                                          • billysink
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 03-29-09
                                                            • 5172

                                                            #30
                                                            Thanks for that, Interesting.

                                                            No such thing as a meaningless number and there is some decent growth there.
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                                                            • gregm
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-14-11
                                                              • 3535

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by billysink
                                                              Being a long time sports forum community participant, i have noticed that forum content has changed over the years. Much less relevant gaming talk, handicapping discussion really down (and low calibre), much more social environment across forums and sub forums. Guys post to be part of something rather than to benefit from something.
                                                              Really? I have been around awhile and I really dont remember the rx or major wager being a real hot bed of sports intelligentsia back in the day, in fact, most of the same people are still around in some form or another. I just think the problem is the revenue stream from sportsbook affiliate links doesnt seem the most stable over the last few years I would imagine.

                                                              There are so many other opportunities for portals, I couldnt imagine in the early days of the rx or any forum you could get pizza,ipads,etc for just posting on a forum. So many types of people would love that outside of just sports gamblers, I even see sbr mentioned more on the 2+2 poker forum. I would love to see some more affiliate links for travel, real estate,etc in costa rica, the ads just need to be more prominent. I rarely look at them.
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                                                              • billysink
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 03-29-09
                                                                • 5172

                                                                #32
                                                                Does the overall value of one of these sites fluctuate in accordance with monthly traffic. Would the book value be less in the summer than during football season?
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                                                                • parlayin
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-03-07
                                                                  • 1091

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by billysink
                                                                  Reach ranks and overall traffic down.
                                                                  Where are you getting these numbers from?
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                                                                  • High3rEl3m3nt
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-28-10
                                                                    • 8022

                                                                    #34
                                                                    If this was just a raw, no frills, handicapping forum, things would probably be more on point--as far as handicapping discussion etc. Obviously, I am not a Pro and so it's not really fair to lobby others to support this, but I wonder what the place would be like without points. What if there wasn't free anything and SBR was just a players' advocate site with a few extras? Or, what if to be a member of the site, everyone had to chalk up a monthly subscription and the points system stayed? Just some thoughts.
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                                                                    • Mr KLC
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 12-19-07
                                                                      • 31097

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I would think as the weather warms up, less people will be inside to post.
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