Is there really a reason to stay Pro?

[Ninersnut]

Now all poker games have a daily fee to enter . Every other month the Pro system keeps getting worse and worse. SBR is becoming very similar to the CC company that signs you up then sends you waivers every month about how the fees are changing and your interest is magically going up for no reason.

The PRO system was a great business plan but for Christ sakes I would rather SBR not try to give away the farm then charge for everything.

[sideloaded]

ban

[Smoke]

220 points for $15 pizza card is well worth it

[DrStale]

The poker games now have a daily fee but they're now paying out to 20 places every tournament and giving away thousands of dollars at the end. Not complicated.

[Ninersnut]

That's true until you get past the point of free pizza. The point is what is this gonna look like in a year? Store prices go up 15%. US players are once again limited on what they can buy. Then to renew you will need to jump through another hoop and eventually start depositing @ books you don't want to just to stay Pro. Unless you wanna donate.

[warriorfan707]

All these changes they keep making to line their own pockets with absolutely no regard to loyal posters is starting to seriously piss me off.

"You can no longer deposit at books to remain pro". That was pretty much the last straw for me.

[Ernie Mccracken]

You guys are such suckers. Keep on donating. The books have boat and bentley payments to make.

[Ninersnut]

I'm sure they pissed off the majority of the US customer base already. I'm assuming they receive the most traffic from US based players. It will be interesting what they come up with to put some lipstick on this pig.

People just see OMG more points. But in all reality they are paying more slots so they cut the risk essentially by making 10 more people roll over 3x. The only people who benefit from this are losers that sit in the ring games for 17 hours a day playing high penny stakes.

[milwaukee mike]

anyone playing every day in the poker tournaments should have at least a 1 in 100 chance of getting in the $15000 tournament.
so that's $150 worth of value right there

[milwaukee mike]

if you don't want to be a pro don't do it

but it doesn't cost you anything (everyone can find something for $200 at amazon) so even if it only gives you 6 pts/day extra to play around with it's worth it

[warriorfan707]

Find something for 200$ on amazon? I dont even know what the options are anymore.

[Ninersnut]

I'm not saying there is not value in the Tourny or the Pro program.

The question is are we getting close to the point of no value? 12x 365 would get you back over your $200 initial Pro deposit. But now if essentially you are taking away those 55 points per week. Is there still value? When the store gets jacked up as well will there still be value? When another new change to the program comes in the next month? When you get handcuffed on where you can play, does it become beneficial to go Pro? I think we are on the cusp of it pretty much being neutral.

[milwaukee mike]

i would agree with you guys that it might be neutral if you were just throwing away $200

but i think buying $200 worth of credit on amazon.com counts for renewing (for now)

[milwaukee mike]

here's the renewal options right this minute

Accept one of our sponsor offers:

• Fantasy SportsDeposit
  
• Pro HandicapperSubscription
  
• Line servicesubscription
  
• Sports ticketpurchase
  
• Online tradingtransaction
  
• Purchasegoods

[milwaukee mike]

the purchase goods is amazon.com

[Deuce]

If you're depositing anyway it's worth it. Costs you nothing.

[trytrytry]

what does it cost to play poker? ring games? or tournys?

[warriorfan707]

If you're depositing anyway it's worth it. Costs you nothing.

I think the whole point of this is that is no longer an option.

[milwaukee mike]

what does it cost to play poker? ring games? or tournys?

costs 11 pts/day now to play tournaments with the new structure

[Ninersnut]

I didn't realize the Amazon thing, or ever heard of it. That would make sense. You could just as well sign up for a fantasy site 2. Most are linked to paypal and funds are there next day when you withdraw. So make a $200 deposit play a game then withdraw the next day/week once your shit is approved. That's if you are cheap enough not to having gambling money and just point bet here.

[DrStale]

All these changes they keep making to line their own pockets with absolutely no regard to loyal posters is starting to seriously piss me off.

"You can no longer deposit at books to remain pro". That was pretty much the last straw for me.

That's a legal issue genius. You don't think SBR would allows you to become a pro via a sportsbook if they could?

[Jimmy Proffett]

I agree. I can't believe SBR doesn't just give every person $500 worth of stuff every year. The nerve of these guys trying to make some kind of profit.

[Ninersnut]

I agree. I can't believe SBR doesn't just give every person $500 worth of stuff every year. The nerve of these guys trying to make some kind of profit.

Hahaha. Yeah I bet SBR is hurting with kids maxing out their ************ on reloads. Righttttttttt.

[k13]

If the SBR Store had hookers I'm sure the anger level of the Pro's would be a lot lower.

[GUMMO77]

Didn't SBR add a free year of "PRO" status to everyone until 2013? Or did I see that wrong?

[Ralphie1412]

I was a pro for a year, when it went to renew you have to start another account at a book. Just to become an SBR pro? hahahaha no thanks, there is ZERO benefit.

[Hazious]

nope

[warriorfan707]

That's a legal issue genius. You don't think SBR would allows you to become a pro via a sportsbook if they could?

Who knows anymore. If they thought they would make more money by eliminating that option they probably would, genius.

[DrStale]

there is ZERO benefit.

My large flat screen television begs to differ. The cluelessness of some people.

[DrStale]

Who knows anymore. If they thought they would make more money by eliminating that option they probably would, genius.

Yeah eliminating sportsbooks as an option and giving everyone a free year of Pro status is really going to rake in the cash for them. Now I remember why I havent been posting. You people make my head hurt.

[hels]

Do any other forum sites offer giveaways? I know that you have to 'pay' in the form of depositing into a sportsbook to receive additional points and buy more at the store.

There was a story I heard one time about an old man who didn't like the kids playing on the street outside of his house. He didn't know what to do to make them stop but then had an idea. The next day he went outside with a smile and told the kids that he loved the noise of children playing as it makes him happy so if they bring all their loudest toys he would give them 25 cents each at the end of the day. The children were louder than ever and at the end of the day he gave them all a quarter. This continued for 5 days until the old man came outside and sadly told the kids he lost some money and could only give them 10 cents each. The children grumbled and mumbled but continued to come and play and be loud. This lasted 5 days until the old man glumly came outside with a frown on his face and told the kids he didn't have any more money to give them but hoped they would continue to play noisily outside his house everyday. The children talked with each other and decided not to make the old man happy for free so they only played at the park down the street.

[GUMMO77]

Yeah eliminating sportsbooks as an option and giving everyone a free year of Pro status is really going to rake in the cash for them. Now I remember why I havent been posting. You people make my head hurt.

I agree. I also think SBR did everyone a favor by adding a free year to their PRO status's in the hopes that the U.S. gaming/banking laws change sometime in 2013.

[WvGambler]

You can go pro by buying 200 bucks worth of stuff at Amazon?!?!

[warriorfan707]

Yeah eliminating sportsbooks as an option and giving everyone a free year of Pro status is really going to rake in the cash for them. Now I remember why I havent been posting. You people make my head hurt.

Not everyone bothered to read the entire thread so you can feel free to stop acting like a fukkin douche anytime. I havent seen anything stating I will be receiving a free year of anything.

[GUMMO77]

Not everyone bothered to read the entire thread so you can feel free to stop acting like a fukkin douche anytime. I havent seen anything stating I will be receiving a free year of anything.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/1606925-changes-sbr-pro-program-us-users.html