Is PITINO really 9-0 in the SWEET 16?

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  • stevenash
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    • 01-17-11
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    #36
    1 Wisconsin 35 1851 52.9
    2 Virginia 32 1735 54.2
    3 Stephen F. Austin 32 1741 54.4
    4 Harvard 31 1724 55.6
    5 Drexel 36 2020 56.1
    6 Wyoming 33 1855 56.2
    7 South Fla. 36 2037 56.6
    8 Saint Louis 34 1960 57.6
    9 Alabama 33 1918 58.1
    10 Eastern Mich. 32 1878 58.7
    11 Georgia St. 34 2003 58.9
    12 Savannah St. 33 1949 59.1
    13 Stony Brook 32 1892 59.1
    14 Ohio St. 36 2133 59.3
    15 New Mexico 35 2076 59.3
    16 Georgetown 33 1959 59.4
    17 Michigan St. 36 2138 59.4
    18 Kentucky 36 2143 59.5
    19 Southern California 32 1910 59.7
    20 VCU 36 2154 59.8
    21 SMU 32 1922 60.1
    22 Cleveland St. 33 1983 60.1
    23 Western Ill. 33 1985 60.2
    24 Syracuse 35 2117 60.5
    25 Denver 31 1876 60.5
    26 Cal Poly 33 1998 60.5
    27 Murray St. 33 2001 60.6
    28 Clemson 31 1880 60.6
    29 Sam Houston St. 32 1941 60.7
    30 Butler 37 2245 60.7
    31 Ball St. 30 1822 60.7
    32 Vermont 36 2193 60.9
    33 Cincinnati 36 2195 61.0
    - Fairfield 36 2195 61.0
    35 Louisville 37 2259 61.1
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    • Louisvillekid1
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      • 10-17-07
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      #37
      /\ fg% and turnover's much more important , alot of those teams just play such a slow offensive game, their opponets get less possessions...
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      • stevenash
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        • 01-17-11
        • 65682

        #38
        Louisville is 110th in the nation in turnover differential (slightly above average)
        Discover the current NCAA Division I Men's Basketball leaders in every stats category, as well as historic leaders.


        FG percentage defense they are top ten, but 9 out of the 16 team teams left are either better them or close to it.
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        • Louisvillekid1
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          • 10-17-07
          • 52143

          #39
          Originally posted by stevenash
          Louisville is 110th in the nation in turnover differential (slightly above average)
          Discover the current NCAA Division I Men's Basketball leaders in every stats category, as well as historic leaders.


          FG percentage defense they are top ten, but 9 out of the 16 team teams left are either better them or close to it.
          Lol What does our t/o differential have to do with defense...

          We have been very sloppy with the ball throughout the season, but not any more...
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          • Louisvillekid1
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            • 10-17-07
            • 52143

            #40
            dude, we are 3rd in the nation in fg% defense
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            • stevenash
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              • 01-17-11
              • 65682

              #41
              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
              /\ fg% and turnover's much more important
              Responding to this portion of your post about turnovers.
              I said you are top ten in FG percentage defense, but look at the top 9.

              1 Kentucky 36 782 2115 37.0
              2 Michigan St. 36 730 1927 37.9
              3 Louisville 37 791 2087 37.9
              4 Georgia St. 34 702 1847 38.0
              5 Florida St. 35 749 1965 38.1
              6 Kansas 35 736 1930 38.1
              7 Syracuse 35 753 1964 38.3
              8 New Mexico 35 731 1903 38.4
              9 Wisconsin 35 681 1770 38.5
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              • baskets
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-24-11
                • 11691

                #42
                so many of these games just seem like common sense games...


                I mean, come on....

                Lou +5
                Marq -2
                Bayl -6
                Cin +8
                NCS +8

                but the more I look at em, the more I get torn
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                • stevenash
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                  • 01-17-11
                  • 65682

                  #43
                  Marquette, don't over think it.
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                  • Monter
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                    • 01-06-12
                    • 221

                    #44
                    Originally posted by baskets
                    so many of these games just seem like common sense games...


                    I mean, come on....

                    Lou +5
                    Marq -2
                    Bayl -6
                    Cin +8
                    NCS +8

                    but the more I look at em, the more I get torn
                    No game is easy. That being said, I think Marq -2 is one of the best bets of the night. The remaining games you have in my opinion lack value or I am going the other way.

                    I am not playing Cincy or NCS. NCS game screams the type of game that you get suckered into playing based on the way the teams performed in each of their respective last games. Never a good idea. I actually like Cincy but with the line being so stale at 7.5 and 75%+ public on Cincy I refuse to touch it.

                    Lou and Baylor I am on the other side.
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                    • cankid
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                      • 08-22-08
                      • 7229

                      #45
                      quite the stats but Louisville wont win today
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                      • Louisvillekid1
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-17-07
                        • 52143

                        #46
                        MArq scares me the most, Just got a weird feeling about that game...
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                        • Scoobdog24
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 11-03-11
                          • 414

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                          MArq scares me the most, Just got a weird feeling about that game...
                          Same here, I have a weird feeling about Florida, but still picking Marquette to win.
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                          • greenhippo
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-15-12
                            • 9091

                            #48
                            Even today people still underestimate just how good a coach Pitino is. The man is a basketball genius.
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                            • BettingWizard
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-28-09
                              • 6522

                              #49
                              he's been the dog 3 or 4 times


                              fav or dog, his average margin of victory is 22 points


                              so yeah 9-0 ats too
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                              • agendaman
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-01-11
                                • 3735

                                #50
                                again jjgold gl on your 6k bet on louisville to repeat myself hope michigan wins by less than spread so we both hit/i got state at 10-1 to win it all /now bernard madoff give us info on high finance not picks ok / i read up on the inventor of the ponzi scheme /quite a guy/hey some white collar scammer actually got an 845 yr. sentence/wow hang in there bm.
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                                • DennisT
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-11-09
                                  • 2023

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by agendaman
                                  again jjgold gl on your 6k bet on louisville to repeat myself hope michigan wins by less than spread so we both hit/i got state at 10-1 to win it all /now bernard madoff give us info on high finance not picks ok / i read up on the inventor of the ponzi scheme /quite a guy/hey some white collar scammer actually got an 845 yr. sentence/wow hang in there bm.

                                  Wow! Thats a lot of time but I digress. Will not try to over think this. Forget stats,NCAA Tournament game
                                  Will take the 5 and Louisville. Patino already said he intends to run with State. Cards are fully healthy and
                                  can run with anybody! Luck All!
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                                  • stevenash
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                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65682

                                    #52
                                    Pitino is 3 and 10 against #1 seeds in the NCAA tournament lifetime.

                                    Tome Izzo is 7 and 2 lifetime as a head coach in the Sweet 16 game himself.

                                    You would think with all those stacked teams, Pitino would have more than just one championship.
                                    (The same as Izzo)

                                    Sorry, but when I think of great coaches, the list starts with Wooden, then Knight, Coach K.... Dean Smith then you get to Jim Calhounn's of the world.

                                    Pitino is in the Billy Donovan and Jim Boeheim tier.
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                                    • baskets
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-24-11
                                      • 11691

                                      #53
                                      I think Donovan and Boeheim are below Pitino.


                                      If Boeheim hadn't of had Melo, his teams would be collossal suck asses in the tourney every year. Donovan was an NCAA choker before he had a couple nba guys on that one team and broke thru twice.
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                                      • stevenash
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                                        • 01-17-11
                                        • 65682

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by baskets

                                        If Boeheim hadn't of had Melo, his teams would be collossal suck asses in the tourney every year. Donovan was an NCAA choker before he had a couple nba guys on that one team and broke thru twice.
                                        I can accept this statement.

                                        Nobody is saying Pitino is a horse crap coach, not at all, but his NCAA record is not as great as one thinks.
                                        Oh sure he's been to the big game twice, winning once, but Calhoun has won 3 times with less talent.
                                        Oh sure he's won with Ray Allen and Kemba Walker, but I'll take Calhoun over Pitino.
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                                        • Jayvegas420
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                                          • 03-09-11
                                          • 28213

                                          #55
                                          I can accept this statement for now.
                                          Untill The Orange win the Championship this year.
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                                          • BiffTFinancial
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                                            • 01-29-09
                                            • 22670

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by baskets
                                            I think Donovan and Boeheim are below Pitino.


                                            If Boeheim hadn't of had Melo, his teams would be collossal suck asses in the tourney every year. Donovan was an NCAA choker before he had a couple nba guys on that one team and broke thru twice.
                                            hmmm, if IU hadn't had Keith Smart, Boeheim would've had another national title right there. Cuse has had their tourney disappointments, but "every year" is overstating the point pretty severely..
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                                            • BiffTFinancial
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                                              • 01-29-09
                                              • 22670

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by stevenash
                                              I can accept this statement.

                                              Nobody is saying Pitino is a horse crap coach, not at all, but his NCAA record is not as great as one thinks.
                                              Oh sure he's been to the big game twice, winning once, but Calhoun has won 3 times with less talent.
                                              Oh sure he's won with Ray Allen and Kemba Walker, but I'll take Calhoun over Pitino.
                                              i might take Calhoun over Pitino, but i'd definitely take Izzo over Calhoun, Pitino, Boeheim and Calipari all together on the same bench. i'm not even a Michigan State fan, but Izzo is hands down the best current coach in sports, period. that's not to put the other guys down. this is Izzo's 15th season and his 10 Sweet Sixteen (along with 6 Final Fours in 14 seasons with the 15th year still open for the moment). that's unreal.

                                              Wooden is obviously the platinum standard that can never be touched. beyond that, Izzo's numbers compare very favorably to Knight, Coach K, Dean Smith, anyone at the end of his 15th year on the job. it also should be noted that it's not as if MSU regularly is at the top of recruiting class lists either.
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                                              • stevenash
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                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65682

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                                                i might take Calhoun over Pitino, but i'd definitely take Izzo over Calhoun, Pitino, Boeheim and Calipari all together on the same bench. i'm not even a Michigan State fan, but Izzo is hands down the best current coach in sports, period. that's not to put the other guys down. this is Izzo's 15th season and his 10 Sweet Sixteen (along with 6 Final Fours in 14 seasons with the 15th year still open for the moment). that's unreal.

                                                Wooden is obviously the platinum standard that can never be touched. beyond that, Izzo's numbers compare very favorably to Knight, Coach K, Dean Smith, anyone at the end of his 15th year on the job. it also should be noted that it's not as if MSU regularly is at the top of recruiting class lists either.
                                                Spot on post.

                                                I said to my wife (who is a big sports fan) earlier, Tom Izzo is so underrated it's hysterical.
                                                All he does is win clutch games (most of the time) flies under the radar, runs as good as a program as you can run a big time program, etc. etc. etc.

                                                Like I said in an earlier post, Pitino 3 and 10 against #1 seeds in the NCAA tournament, and Izzo is 7 and 2 in Sweet 16 games.
                                                Izzo will not, repeat will not get out coached tonight.
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                                                • ShawNee922
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                                                  • 04-22-08
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                                                  #59
                                                  Trends mean nothing!!

                                                  I once saw a Long Beach State basketball trend that was 99-0 ...
                                                  After situation #100 the trend was over.... 99-1!!
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                                                  • slickwatts
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 09-15-11
                                                    • 49

                                                    #60
                                                    now 10-0.
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                                                    • stevenash
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                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65682

                                                      #61
                                                      Sparty played like crap.
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                                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-17-07
                                                        • 52143

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                        Sparty played like crap.


                                                        I was waiting for a comment like this,

                                                        their play had nothing to do with our defense/gameplan...

                                                        hahaha
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                                                        • PR9
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                                                          • 12-30-11
                                                          • 2813

                                                          #63
                                                          10-0 baby !
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                                                          • slickwatts
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                                                            • 09-15-11
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by stevenash
                                                            Pitino is 3 and 10 against #1 seeds in the NCAA tournament lifetime.

                                                            Tome Izzo is 7 and 2 lifetime as a head coach in the Sweet 16 game himself.

                                                            You would think with all those stacked teams, Pitino would have more than just one championship.
                                                            (The same as Izzo)

                                                            Sorry, but when I think of great coaches, the list starts with Wooden, then Knight, Coach K.... Dean Smith then you get to Jim Calhounn's of the world.

                                                            Pitino is in the Billy Donovan and Jim Boeheim tier.
                                                            Don't know if I agree. Pitino is 1 player (Derek Anderson) away from back to back titles at UK. He was the 2nd leading scorer on that team and went out with a season ending injury and they still made the Finals. And if Rick wouldn't have left for Boston he would've had 3 titles but instead handed the reigns over to Tubby Smith. If there's anyone who has done less with more IMO it would be Dean Smith considering the number of All-Americans he's had.
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                                                            • stevenash
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 01-17-11
                                                              • 65682

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1


                                                              I was waiting for a comment like this,

                                                              their play had nothing to do with our defense/gameplan...

                                                              hahaha
                                                              OK Sparty played great.
                                                              Happy now
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                                                              • stevenash
                                                                Moderator
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 65682

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Louisvillekid1


                                                                I was waiting for a comment like this,

                                                                their play had nothing to do with our defense/gameplan...

                                                                hahaha
                                                                Your defense?
                                                                You a booster? AD? You have a financial stake in the team?
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                                                                • Louisvillekid1
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-17-07
                                                                  • 52143

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                  OK Louisville played great.
                                                                  Happy now
                                                                  YEs fixed!
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                                                                  • Louisvillekid1
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-17-07
                                                                    • 52143

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                    Your defense?
                                                                    You a booster? AD? You have a financial stake in the team?
                                                                    Just my heart check my thread...
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                                                                    • stevenash
                                                                      Moderator
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65682

                                                                      #69
                                                                      ^
                                                                      What thread?
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                                                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 10-17-07
                                                                        • 52143

                                                                        #70
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