You wanna talk liquidity...

[dj_destroyer]

Pinnacle does on average 95,000 transactions per day.

[ngates815]

You wanna talk about who gives a flying fukk?

[Brock Landers]

pinnacle has been dead to the US market for so long i don't care about them anymore

[zsr]

Fukin Ngates goin after everyone today

[jjgold]

95,000???

Tickets??

[dj_destroyer]

95,000???

Tickets??

Transactions... so if you make 5 bets all at once and they all get confirmed together, that is ONE transaction. I don't know the numbers by individual wager but I'm sure it would at least double if not triple the number.

[Winner_13]

wherd u get this

[Hareeba!]

Pinnacle does on average 95,000 transactions per day.

a small fraction of what Betfair does .. and the large UK books, also Tabcorp

[dj_destroyer]

a small fraction of what Betfair does .. and the large UK books, also Tabcorp

LOL @ "small fraction"

Pinnacle easily does 200,000 individual wagers a day... there's no way that's a "small fraction" at any book in the world.

[SBR_John]

Also, during my brief visits there I have seen them take upper 5 figure call in wagers rather routinely.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

Should still have some balls and figure out a way to sneak back into the US market. Why can't they just do what 5dimes does?

[jjgold]

They do not take 200,000 wagers per day

A solid Book for USA market during week will take 1k-3k wagers per night

[SBR_John]

Should still have some balls and figure out a way to sneak back into the US market. Why can't they just do what 5dimes does?

My theory is they had made a LOT of money and did not want the processing or legal headaches. It was sort of a semi retirement move although I have heard they have finally surpassed their early '07(pre pull out) volume.

[probettor1]

I dont know where you got that number, but at least as per alexa their traffic ranking is twice that of 5dimes with close to 9000 and 5dimes close to 18000

[Hareeba!]

LOL @ "small fraction"

Pinnacle easily does 200,000 individual wagers a day... there's no way that's a "small fraction" at any book in the world.

well that might depend on what you call 'small' but at something in the order of 2.5m+ trades a day, I would say Betfair has a pretty comprehensive lead over Pinnacle in that department

and then take into account all the retail shops owned by the big UK bookies and by Tabcorp (2500+), Pinnacle's number isn't really that huge

[probettor1]

Betfair kicking ass in alexa ranking 1,329. Only jjgold can compete with them having 120,528 posts.

[probettor1]

Alexa close to 19 times the ranking of 5dimes.

[jjgold]

Does Tabcorp really take a ton of online wagers????

I will count horses too

[probettor1]

ngates your attitude resemble a lot the attitude of patients affected with Alzheimer's disease. You should get a check-up with your shrink. There are new genetic test for early diagnosis and treatment.

[Hareeba!]

Does Tabcorp really take a ton of online wagers????

I will count horses too

I don't have the numbers handy but would estimate that they write a whole lot more tickets in the shops and on course than online. Racing is most definitely their prime volume.

Online they would probably write a large volume of exotic betting tickets for pro. punters but not much straight betting.

[The Kraken]

DJ, where you getting these numbers?

[ngates815]

ngates your attitude resemble a lot the attitude of patients affected with Alzheimer's disease. You should get a check-up with your shrink. There are new genetic test for early diagnosis and treatment.

Your attitude resembles a lot of the attitude of someone that needs to catch some brass knuckles with their fukkin chin.

[probettor1]

Your attitude resembles a lot of the attitude of someone that needs to catch some brass knuckles with their fukkin chin.

You just confirmed the diagnosis of dementia, my question is: Is it alzheimer or alcoholic dementia. Do you ride Harleysdavidson and spend most of the time drunk? That will probably classify you for the alcoholic dementia.

[William Walters]

[PickWinnerAllDay]

My theory is they had made a LOT of money and did not want the processing or legal headaches. It was sort of a semi retirement move although I have heard they have finally surpassed their early '07(pre pull out) volume.

They are doing well, no doubt about that. USA needs them more than they need USA.

[probettor1]

They are doing well, no doubt about that. USA needs them more than they need USA.

USA need them? For what? to let go of fcking millions offshore? We need american bookies. that's it.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

USA need them? For what? to let go of fcking millions offshore? We need american bookies. that's it.

USA gamblers I mean.

[probettor1]

USA gamblers, USA goverment, USA whatever, all the same shit. We need people buying american. For most part, gambling is buying, people pay for a hobbie even though they dream differently.

[jjgold]

For Pinny to be that busy they are doing massive underground business in USA

No way your average European or Australian are playing there

[Hareeba!]

For Pinny to be that busy they are doing massive underground business in USA

No way your average European or Australian are playing there

why do you say that?

every sports punter I know has a Pinnacle account

[Ruifgalmeida]

For Pinny to be that busy they are doing massive underground business in USA

No way your average European or Australian are playing there

yes pinny problably does massive underground business with USA, but they dont need, they dont work only with euro and aussie markets asia is where the big degenerates are.

[jjgold]

How do they work with Asia??????????

They have tons of restrictions even banking as far as gambling outside their Country??

Can Asian Residents fund Neteller and Moneybookers accounts using banking instruments??

[Pat McCrotch]

Pinnacle does on average 95,000 transactions per day.

Ladbrokes does more than this in its shops alone in the uk,


add to that the millions of online customers they have worldwide.