Originally posted by brahmabull117
Mark Sanchez is Everything That's Wrong With NFL Fans and NFL Management
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KingJD31SBR Hall of Famer
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#71jay cutler sucks dick what are you talking aboutComment -
brahmabull117SBR Hall of Famer
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#72Originally posted by KingJD31jay cutler sucks dick what are you talking about
Jay Cutler QB rating last 2 season - 86
Mark Sanchez QB rating last 2 seasons - 77
Cutler played on much much worse teams with worse offensive line and way less effective receivers. Take off your blinders and understand you're defending one of the worst QBs in the leagueComment -
crustymeSBR Posting Legend
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#73Originally posted by brahmabull117Newton had 4700 total yards and 35 TDs his rookie season
Sanchez had 2500 total yards and 15 TDs his rookie season
You retarded bro?
aikman 1749 9tds
elway 1663yds 7tds
roethlisberger 2621 17tds
all as rookies.
you're such a moron.
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KingJD31SBR Hall of Famer
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#74lolll sanchez been in the league how long now? besides this past season sanchez doesnt ruin games like cutler doesOriginally posted by brahmabull117Jay Cutler QB rating last 2 season - 86
Mark Sanchez QB rating last 2 seasons - 77
Cutler played on much much worse teams with worse offensive line and way less effective receivers. Take off your blinders and understand you're defending one of the worst QBs in the leagueComment -
brahmabull117SBR Hall of Famer
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#75Originally posted by crustymeaikman 1749 9tds
elway 1663yds 7tds
roethlisberger 2621 17tds
all as rookies.
you're such a moron
Yea none of those guys were anywhere near as good as Cam Newton was his first year. What's your point? What has Sanchez done to earn himself the respect of being discussed in the same group as those elite QBs?
Nobody knows how good Newton will be, all we can say is he had a phenomenal rookie seasonComment -
Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
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#76Tebow > TacoComment -
brahmabull117SBR Hall of Famer
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#77Originally posted by KingJD31lolll sanchez been in the league how long now? besides this past season sanchez doesnt ruin games like cutler does
Sanchez has had 68 turnovers in 3 seasons. Jesus fukking christ get your head out of your ass and understand who you're talking aboutComment -
MoneyLineDawgSBR Posting Legend
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#78In 4 seasons?? WTF are you talking about, he was drafted in 2009Originally posted by brahmabull117Sanchez isn't good at anything
His short accuracy sucks
His deep accuracy sucks
He is a turnover machine - 68 turnovers in 4 seasons
You're ignorant as hell man
An awful QB cannot take a team to back to back AFC Championship games.....It defies all logic
An Awful QB does not lead the league in 4th quarter comeback wins since starting in the NFL
Young QB improving every season, despite team around him getting worse and worse........He will get betterComment -
KingJD31SBR Hall of Famer
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#79this guy is unreasonable the fact he said he got sacked so many times is because he didnt adjust the protection clown doesnt have a clue peyton manning would have struggled last yearOriginally posted by MoneyLineDawgIn 4 seasons?? WTF are you talking about, he was drafted in 2009
You're ignorant as hell man
An awful QB cannot take a team to back to back AFC Championship games.....It defies all logic
An Awful QB does not lead the league in 4th quarter comeback wins since starting in the NFL
Young QB improving every season, despite team around him getting worse and worse........He will get betterComment -
brahmabull117SBR Hall of Famer
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#80my bad, 3 seasons - even worseOriginally posted by MoneyLineDawgIn 4 seasons?? WTF are you talking about, he was drafted in 2009
An awful QB cannot take a team to back to back AFC Championship games.....It defies all logic
Uhh yea he can, it's called surrounding a mediocre QB with a great running game, great offensive line and great defense. Those things started to fade a bit last year and the jets were garbage. Coincidence?
An Awful QB does not lead the league in 4th quarter comeback wins since starting in the NFL
Tebow lead the league in 4th qrt comebacks last year
I rest my caseComment -
bobby heenanSBR MVP
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#81jets were a 9-7 team the year before sanchezOriginally posted by crustymeaikman 1749 9tds
elway 1663yds 7tds
roethlisberger 2621 17tds
all as rookies.
you're such a moron.

tell me the records of the cowboys, broncos, and steelers the year before they aquired those guys...not to mention passing hadnt evolved to the state it is today when aikman and elway were breaking into the leagueComment -
crustymeSBR Posting Legend
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#82Originally posted by brahmabull117Discounting the most widely used stat for evaluating QBs in the league for the last 15 years? Are you fukking retarded?

present nfl passer rating's been around since 1973, you stupid fuk.
and what happened to qbr being the greatest stat since sliced bread?
so let me guess, you think alex smith is a better qb than jay cutler since he had a higher qb rating?
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MoneyLineDawgSBR Posting Legend
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#83Originally posted by KingJD31this guy is unreasonable the fact he said he got sacked so many times is because he didnt adjust the protection clown doesnt have a clue peyton manning would have struggled last year
I think Sanchez has been inconsistent, a winner, good in crunch time, sometimes terrible.....But overall mediocre with a good chance to get better
I could understand some people saying he's not that good, but I can't stand ignorant people that say he's awful and blame everything bad on the guy but don't acknowledge the good things he has done/good traits he hasComment -
crustymeSBR Posting Legend
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#849-7 with brett favre, the 1st ballot hall of famer....Originally posted by bobby heenanjets were a 9-7 team the year before sanchez
tell me the records of the cowboys, broncos, and steelers the year before they aquired those guys...not to mention passing hadnt evolved to the state it is today when aikman and elway were breaking into the league


yet failed to make the playoffs for 2nd years in a row.Comment -
Onefreedm1ndSBR Sharp
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#85The problem with Sanchez is that he's small, plays for a big headed Hollwood coach that just figured out how to loose weight and likes to suck toes, his one reciever shot himself and landed in prison somehow and the other is 6'. The NY market made it seem like he was better than he was when they were winning. Keller was pretty good in Madden. But the Jets all around are pretty gay so who caresComment -
brahmabull117SBR Hall of Famer
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#86I knew that, fukktard. They've been very dominant as an evaluation tool for QBs for about the last 15 years or soOriginally posted by crustymepresent nfl passer rating's been around since 1973, you stupid fuk.
and what happened to qbr being the greatest stat since sliced bread?
What difference does it make? Sanchez is near dead list in QBR or Qb rating or any other significant stat you want to look at
He sucks periodComment -
bobby heenanSBR MVP
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#87so you think it was the play of mark sanchez that was the difference in getting them to the playoffs and deep into them???Originally posted by crustyme9-7 with brett favre, the 1st ballot hall of famer....


yet failed to make the playoffs for 2nd years in a row.Comment -
Onefreedm1ndSBR Sharp
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#88Feel free to send me points if you agreeComment -
crustymeSBR Posting Legend
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#89Originally posted by brahmabull117Yea none of those guys were anywhere near as good as Cam Newton was his first year. What's your point? What has Sanchez done to earn himself the respect of being discussed in the same group as those elite QBs?
Nobody knows how good Newton will be, all we can say is he had a phenomenal rookie season
career >>>>>> 1 season
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brahmabull117SBR Hall of Famer
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#90Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
I think Sanchez has been inconsistent, a winner, good in crunch time, sometimes terrible.....But overall mediocre with a good chance to get better
In the regular season, he's been god awful I would say about 70% of his games
Does he look good on occasion? sure he does, but you don't have a 73 career QB rating and 68 turnovers in 3 seasons if you're not awful the overwhelming majority of the time
Answer this question, which QB in the league performs less with more talent around him? Can you think of any other QB that has played on teams with as much talent as the jets have that has put up such awful numbers?Comment -
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#91crustyme believes Obama is a great president
so his opinion on NFL QBs is equally flawed
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brahmabull117SBR Hall of Famer
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#92Originally posted by crustymecareer >>>>>> 1 season

how the fukk are we supposed to know what Newton will be like in his career? He could be great, he could be a flop. All we can do is go off the one season he had
Anyways your point is complete nonsense anyways. How do you know that Sanchez will turn himself into being anywhere near as good as the guys on that list? Yea there are QBs who struggled early and then figured it out later...there is also a much bigger list of QBs who struggled early and NEVER figured it outComment -
ttrace35SBR Posting Legend
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#93The last 3 years combined. Not just last year.Originally posted by brahmabull117my bad, 3 seasons - even worse
Uhh yea he can, it's called surrounding a mediocre QB with a great running game, great offensive line and great defense. Those things started to fade a bit last year and the jets were garbage. Coincidence?
Tebow lead the league in 4th qrt comebacks last year
I rest my caseComment -
brahmabull117SBR Hall of Famer
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#94Originally posted by ttrace35The last 3 years combined. Not just last year.
The jets should have been involved in a bunch of blowouts anyways. No excuse for playing so many close games with that much talent around him last 3 yearsComment -
crustymeSBR Posting Legend
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#95of course he did.Originally posted by bobby heenanso you think it was the play of mark sanchez that was the difference in getting them to the playoffs and deep into them???
what, you think only qbs that pass for 4000 yds and have 100 qb ratings contribute to their teams' successes?
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MoneyLineDawgSBR Posting Legend
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#96I don't give a fukk about your stupid ass qb ratings or whatever, I judge QB's with my own eyes and by winning (How they play when the pressures on, how they play in the playoffs, how they play in hostile road environments, etc)......I can also ask you what rookie/2nd year QB in the history of the NFL has 4 road playoff wins under his belt? And he was a main reason for all of those wins as I've said already....Originally posted by brahmabull117In the regular season, he's been god awful I would say about 70% of his games
Does he look good on occasion? sure he does, but you don't have a 73 career QB rating and 68 turnovers in 3 seasons if you're not awful the overwhelming majority of the time
Answer this question, which QB in the league performs less with more talent around him? Can you think of any other QB that has played on teams with as much talent as the jets have that has put up such awful numbers?
It is not black and white and stats aren't close to everything.....A lot of trickle down effects within a team
You add a great QB to most teams in the NFL and they will be contenders instantly, the Jets were not talent-wise that much better than the rest of the league.....They were very good overall and they made deep playoff runsComment -
brahmabull117SBR Hall of Famer
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#97Originally posted by crustymeof course he did.
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bobby heenanSBR MVP
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#98wasnt it favres 3 int game against the dolphins the last game of the regular season that kept them out of the playoffs????Originally posted by crustyme9-7 with brett favre, the 1st ballot hall of famer....


yet failed to make the playoffs for 2nd years in a row.
i think it was....im sure those werent his fault though!Comment -
brahmabull117SBR Hall of Famer
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#99Originally posted by MoneyLineDawgI don't give a fukk about your stupid ass qb ratings or whatever, I judge QB's with my own eyes and by winning (How they play when the pressures on, how they play in the playoffs, how they play in hostile road environments, etc)......I can also ask you what rookie/2nd year QB in the history of the NFL has 4 road playoff wins under his belt? And he was a main reason for all of those wins as I've said already....
I admitted he's played well in the playoffs, but the reason for them being in so many road playoff games was his godawful performance in the regular season
The jets lost to the steelers by 5 points on the road. You don't think that could have been a different outcome if they were playing at home?
Look at the 2010 Steelers and the 2010 Jets, take away the Qbs and tell me which team had more talent. The defenses were a wash, the jets had a much better running game and much better offensive line...yet which team ended up with the homefield advantage?Comment -
crustymeSBR Posting Legend
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#100Originally posted by brahmabull117I knew that, fukktard. They've been very dominant as an evaluation tool for QBs for about the last 15 years or so
What difference does it make? Sanchez is near dead list in QBR or Qb rating or any other significant stat you want to look at
He sucks period
why dont you stop editing out all my points that make you look like a complete tool?
since you deleted it.... i'll ask again..... do you think that alex smith is a better qb than jay culter since his qb rating was higher?Comment -
MoneyLineDawgSBR Posting Legend
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#101Big Ben is obviously better......Big Ben is also in the prime of his career, and Sanchez was a 23 year old 2nd year QB that started in the NFL from day one and had to learn on the fly.....Sanchez also only started in college at USC for 1 seasonOriginally posted by brahmabull117I admitted he's played well in the playoffs, but the reason for them being in so many road playoff games was his godawful performance in the regular season
The jets lost to the steelers by 5 points on the road. You don't think that could have been a different outcome if they were playing at home?
Look at the 2010 Steelers and the 2010 Jets, take away the Qbs and tell me which team had more talent. The defenses were a wash, the jets had a much better running game and much better offensive line...yet which team ended up with the homefield advantage?
A lot of good QB's (Like Aaron Rodgers for example) Start for 3,sometimes 4 years in college.....Then they get drafted and sit for a good 2 seasons and learn before starting in the NFL
Mark Sanchez has improved every season (Satistically- since I know you like that)
Not sure what you're trying to prove, but if its Big Ben in year 6 or whatever is btter than Sanchez year 2, i agreeComment -
brahmabull117SBR Hall of Famer
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#102Originally posted by crustymewhy dont you stop editing out all my points that make you look like a complete tool?
since you deleted it.... i'll ask again..... do you think that alex smith is a better qb than jay culter since his qb rating was higher?
No because Alex Smith played with better receivers and better offensive line. Put Cutler on San Fran and he would have had better numbers
Neither one of those 2 guys played with the same talent as Sanchez has had in his careerComment -
brahmabull117SBR Hall of Famer
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#103Originally posted by MoneyLineDawgBig Ben is obviously better......Big Ben is also in the prime of his career, and Sanchez was a 23 year old 2nd year QB that started in the NFL from day one and had to learn on the fly.....Sanchez also only started in college at USC for 1 season
Roethlisberger had a 98 QB rating and a 64% completion percentage his first 2 seasons in the league
Give me a fukking break people! Sanchez is complete garbageComment -
MoneyLineDawgSBR Posting Legend
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#104Complete garbage......You are one ignorant foolComment -
brahmabull117SBR Hall of Famer
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#105says the guy comparing a QB with a 70 QB rating his first 2 seasons to one who had a 98 passer rating his first 2 seasonsOriginally posted by MoneyLineDawgComplete garbage......You are one ignorant fool
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