guys please give me your input on this!!! Seems like you just can't lose......

troynewell47 · 03-03-12, 01:45 AM

ur not missing anything

The Kraken · 03-03-12, 01:47 AM

The dealer can see everyone he is dealing to through your webcam

Try and count cards on the live dealer and your Tony will be buying dinner on your dime

RedSox88 · 03-03-12, 01:48 AM

the dealer can see everyone shes dealing to???

thats false information my computer does not have a webcam we see her she does not see us

at least thats how 5 dimes casino works

troynewell47 · 03-03-12, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by The Kraken

The dealer can see everyone he is dealing to through your webcam

Try and count cards on the live dealer and your Tony will be buying dinner on your dime

r u dumb...

RedSox88 · 03-03-12, 01:49 AM

yea kraken everyone in this thread is now dumber for listening to you

i award you no points

and my god have mercy on you soul

The Kraken · 03-03-12, 02:00 AM

You think the dealer is just going to deal cards to a person they can't see?

Of course they can see you, they have to see you. Everyone has a webcam or else they can't play live BJ.

PickWinnerAllDay · 03-03-12, 02:01 AM

Smash your stuff you puss.

Bengals28 · 03-03-12, 02:04 AM

Originally posted by RedSox88

yea kraken everyone in this thread is now dumber for listening to you

i award you no points

and my god have mercy on you soul

Billy Mad my brotha

SharpBoxing · 03-03-12, 03:10 AM

Have you smashed you macbook yet?

But this sounds like a good idea, didnt know 5dimes had this. Gonna check it out for myself

troynewell47 · 03-03-12, 11:04 AM

Dude u dont need a webcam to play live blackjack u r so dumb

hels · 03-03-12, 11:36 AM

It can be done but 6 a deck shoe where they only deal 4.5 decks worth. The edge will be very small when you get it.

Megatron81lions · 03-03-12, 12:43 PM

Whats up with that redsox you talked all that crap about being trie to your word. The least you can do is quit posting

BET THE HOOK · 03-03-12, 02:56 PM

I dont have a webcam and I have played live Casino games there. THEY CANT SEE YOU AT ALL and this I promise.

2 Kids · 03-03-12, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by The Kraken The dealer can see everyone he is dealing to through your webcam

Try and count cards on the live dealer and your Tony will be buying dinner on your dime

well if thats the case then if the chick is hot, maybe ill stroke it for her, make her day, and mine

brendon · 03-03-12, 03:22 PM

It won't last long. I'm sure they have someone that monitor or a software that flags when you fluctuate your bets in correlation with the positive or negative counts. It's like when you're at a casino and you bet $25 per hand, then all of a sudden you increase to $100....the dealer would call out "check play."
Btw...it takes 5 minutes to learn the basic of card counting. but it takes awhile to count fast and smooth with all the distractions. so, it's pretty easy for them to spot a card counter.

Hareeba! · 03-03-12, 03:23 PM

The dealer doesn't need to see a player to pick him as a card counter.

brendon · 03-03-12, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

The dealer doesn't need to see a player to pick him as a card counter.

^^^This. Hareeba explained it much better with one sentence than my paragraph. lol

dynamite140 · 03-03-12, 03:52 PM

a kid with dreams

PD77 · 03-03-12, 05:23 PM

Play a few hands and one of two things will happen. Some dumb ass will will starting playing crazy , hitting 15 against a 16 or the hit/stand buttons will mysteriously not appear and they will have to call in the pitboss. The pitboss will take a look and say you have a shitty connection or something else that is your fault. Play live blackjack with caution because there are plenty of ways to get screwed. The books offer Live games for a reason and it isn't to lose money.

jjgold · 03-03-12, 05:29 PM

There is way they can see you with flash running
If you have a webcam there is a way they can enable it and see you

Monte · 03-03-12, 05:39 PM

pls someone close this thread, my brain is melting

DOMINATER · 03-03-12, 07:18 PM

jj if you don't own a webcam on your computer how can they monitor you?

caveira · 03-03-12, 09:33 PM

These things are never "so easy" man, they will spot you and once it happens, bye bye.

Kindred · 03-03-12, 09:39 PM

wow lots of idiots in this thread.

you can count them but when you vary your bet size it's a tell that you are counting. Betting the min when deck is neg and then hitting it for the max is easy way to tell you are an advantage player counting cards.

If you want to count and then have someone else sit down when the deck is positive that would work. But you woulnd't be able to do it all the time, same two players at the same table would eventually set off red flags.

And your statement about it 100% being not rigged is false. How do you know those aren't stacked decks? take out a few high cards and it increases the house edge. Not saying they do this but nothing is 100% in this world.

GL hope you rape tony

Justin7 · 03-04-12, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by hels

It can be done but 6 a deck shoe where they only deal 4.5 decks worth. The edge will be very small when you get it.

I haven't looked at 5d's game, but if they are dealing 4.5 decks out of 6, and have average rules, I need to get my programmer to work on a bot to play this game non-stop.

Samson420 · 03-04-12, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by The Kraken

You think the dealer is just going to deal cards to a person they can't see?

Of course they can see you, they have to see you. Everyone has a webcam or else they can't play live BJ.

Gotta be the dumbest thing ive heard today.

princecharles · 03-04-12, 01:19 AM

The live BJ dealer CAN see you.
I verified this with two sources, (independent Laptop and Desktop security specialists).
Not only see you, but HEAR you also!
Apparently the Live BJ site servers exploit security flaws on the player's computer, allowing for what's called, 'Stealth audio/video non-permissive transmission', or as Symantec engineers call it, 'SAVNPT'.
Even if you don't have a built in mic or webcam they see and hear you by 'tricking' the remote desktop feature built into every Windows and Mac computer.
Micro vibrations, algorithmic analaysis of key-stroke annomolies, static discharge from a flat screen monitor 'reflecting' off the player's face, and what's known as dynamic laser refraction from the computer's mouse (doesn't apply to the older tracball mice) are just a few of the methods they use to make sure you are not playing while taking notes or speaking about the cards to someone who is card counting.

Be very careful when playing Live BJ. Watch what you say out loud and always dress appropriatly.

Comb your hair and try to make the best impression possible, as you may get comped if the Pit Boss sees you are taking his game seriously, and you are clean shaven and well dressed.

Good Luck!

UntilTheNDofTimE · 03-04-12, 01:25 AM

Even if you could count cards perfectly isnt that only giving you maybe a 1% edge over the house? And thats using 5 decks. I dont know much about it but this isnt a sure fire way to get rich but there is probably more to it.

UntilTheNDofTimE · 03-04-12, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

I haven't looked at 5d's game, but if they are dealing 4.5 decks out of 6, and have average rules, I need to get my programmer to work on a bot to play this game non-stop.

Retract my previous statement

greenhippo · 03-04-12, 01:30 AM

So redsox is 80% woman. That's about what I got from this thread.

DrIn$entive · 03-04-12, 02:18 AM

Would be something if Tony has already 86'd players for counting cards.

zacharyj53 · 03-04-12, 02:56 AM

So there are people on here that actually think they can see you.

The Kraken · 03-04-12, 04:24 AM

I played live tonight at 5dimes...

I took my pants off midway through and exposed myself to the dealer on the third hand. His eyes got big and I immediately got disconnected.

Tony sent me a message telling me I was banned from playing live BJ at 5d.

So to all those that think they can't see you, fukk off. I've got proof they can.

biggie12 · 03-04-12, 05:33 AM

there is a reason you will never see the cards fanned out infront of you before you begin a shoe.