Question for the sbr legal team...

romecloneout · 03-01-12, 09:12 PM

huh...why the fukk would u want to sell your discount....unreal fukkkkin people will do anything nowadays to make a buck....im glad u got canned

playersonly69 · 03-01-12, 09:12 PM

ABSOLUTELY it is grounds for termination.

But you could get $400 a week from unemployment insurance if you worked at least 2 quarters.

PickWinnerAllDay · 03-01-12, 09:13 PM

Did you say in the ad that you would use your discount to purchase it?

Bill Dozer · 03-01-12, 09:13 PM

There's only a handful of things you can't get fired for. It seems people today think they own a piece of the company they work for because they put in X amount of time overlooking they got paid for it. What's in dispute? Vacation pay? Benefits?

playersonly69 · 03-01-12, 09:14 PM

Not only do they have EVERY right to terminate you, this is real close to theft.

It is guys like you who end of raising the costs of items for the rest of us

playersonly69 · 03-01-12, 09:15 PM

This company doesnt owe him a thing since this is real close to theft

sickler · 03-01-12, 09:15 PM

Obviously your employer thinks it's grounds for termination or they would've answered your ad pretending to be interested and see how much farther you'd take it.

UNCGQ · 03-01-12, 09:15 PM

I imagine the answer lies in the Employee Handbook containing all relevant policies pertaining use of your Employee Discount.

The short answer is, I'd bet that it is.

gauchojake · 03-01-12, 09:16 PM

Rookie mistake. You buy the most popular stuff with your discount and then sell on CL. You'll learn.

PickWinnerAllDay · 03-01-12, 09:18 PM

Buying the stuff and then selling it on eBay woulda been the way to go. Craigslist?

bobby heenan · 03-01-12, 09:18 PM

Alright ...if guys wanna bash...that's fine

Like I said...did not go through with it or purchase anything....just asking a question...no need to get angry with me

gauchojake · 03-01-12, 09:26 PM

Are you a contract employee or at will? Union or not? In CA it's at will employment and you can be fired for just about anything, although if your employer is violating labor laws or engages in retaliatory behavior then you have cause to sue.

Mr KLC · 03-01-12, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by UNCGQ

I imagine the answer lies in the Employee Handbook containing all relevant policies pertaining use of your Employee Discount.

The short answer is, I'd bet that it is.

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This

bobby heenan · 03-01-12, 09:31 PM

My thing is...it's just an add...I could put a specific item on craiglist and I don't have to sell it

I didn't put any items up for sale and never purchased anything from my employer

flyingillini · 03-01-12, 09:33 PM

You can't make some of this stuff up. This is why SBR is the best entertainment in the world. Anything and everything people do here.... We have all walks of life and it's great!

EDDIE MONEY LINE · 03-01-12, 09:50 PM

brilliant

bobby heenan · 03-01-12, 10:00 PM

I just find it ridiculous that an add can get u terminated...the add had no mention of the company name or specific products....and nothing was ever purchased

Anyways...thank to those to who tried to give advice...joy surprised by those who enjoy piling on

gauchojake · 03-01-12, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by flyingillini

You can't make some of this stuff up. This is why SBR is the best entertainment in the world. Anything and everything people do here.... We have all walks of life and it's great!

May SBR John and Jesus bless you! (in that order) Sur Califas 3:16

Kindred · 03-01-12, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by bobby heenan

Lawyer has already been contacted....situation explained to him ....but maybe someone here can shed some light

I was terminated today

I had an employee discount...I posted some adds on Craigslist asking if people were interested in products we carry....didn't list specific products ...like a "u tell me what you are looking for and I'll see what I can do" sort of deal...

Real stupid...rookie mistake....my question is .... Is the offense of posting the add grounds for termination?

I never actually purchased anything from my employer using my discount and never sold anything....that's not disputable....there are no records of me making a purchase

wwf is gay..guys in tights..I'd fire you for that and maybe you could get me for discrimination. But other than that why the **** do you think you are entitled to a job and paycheck. IF the boss or business owner wants to terminate your employment then what makes you think you can "sue them"

And you tried to profit from your employee discount..so yeah you're ******* fired pal and for good reason not that they needed a good reason but you sure gave them one

NYSportsGuy210 · 03-01-12, 10:08 PM

I gotta ask.....what kind of store did you work at?

And.....how did they find out it was you?

bobby heenan · 03-01-12, 10:13 PM

I'm not looking to sue...but I want to know how an add gives u grounds to terminate someone based on the reason I was given

I didn't realize you were able to fire anyone for whatever you'd like...sorry....I want under that impression....not looking for some hail Mary law suit...but I want to make sure they aren't gonna contest unemployment benefits and I'm just curious....

The lawyer is related to me by marriage...I made a call...just to find out options

ProfaneReality · 03-01-12, 10:15 PM

Yes... and if I had an employee who couldn't spell ad, that would be grounds for termination as well.

gauchojake · 03-01-12, 10:16 PM

Different states have different laws regarding employment. What state do you live in?

bobby heenan · 03-01-12, 10:20 PM

I actually know the difference profane....my mind just isn't working right now

Gaucho...Connecticut

flyingillini · 03-01-12, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by gauchojake

May SBR John and Jesus bless you! (in that order) Sur Califas 3:16

Sureno Vida Gaucho Loco, this is dedicated to you, a real Bruta Banger.......Sur 3:16

MoneyLineDawg · 03-01-12, 10:22 PM

I don't see how this is grounds for termination at all.......And i don't get how the fukk they would catch you

How can they prove you would sell the items purchased from that store you work at and with your employee discount

WTF??

more to this story.....

sickler · 03-01-12, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by bobby heenan

I'm not looking to sue...but I want to know how an add gives u grounds to terminate someone based on the reason I was given

I didn't realize you were able to fire anyone for whatever you'd like...sorry....I want under that impression....not looking for some hail Mary law suit...but I want to make sure they aren't gonna contest unemployment benefits and I'm just curious....

The lawyer is related to me by marriage...I made a call...just to find out options

I don't know the laws where you live (I probably live in a different country)...........but let's say your employer wasn't sure your ad was against the law. Isn't it reasonable to think that once your employer became aware of the ad they would've replied to it and tried to have you dig yourself deeper?

Gee · 03-01-12, 10:26 PM

You made a public advertisement trying to sell items at a price that you are not entitled to do.

Its a fundamentally simple concept that as an employee, you have a fiduciary duty to act in the best interests of your employer. There is an implied duty of fidelity and good faith. As soon as you placed the ad, you have breached your duty and the company was correct to get rid of you.

I'm glad you didn't pay for any legal advice, although now your in-laws must now think you are pretty dumb. Not something I'd be willing to do to save a few pennies on something that is blindingly obvious.

bobby heenan · 03-01-12, 10:29 PM

They told me a customer saw the ad and reported it to them...

I had correspondence with a few people and replied back to them...this customer may have gotten my email address and given it to them

When they first confronted me they had a police officer interview me ...they tried to relate the ad to missing product ... And I told them that I'd never stolen anything...and I explained what the ad was for.... They kinda got me there...but I was blindsided....

Still not sure how this is grounds when I didn't actually purchase anything

bobby heenan · 03-01-12, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by Gee

You made a public advertisement trying to sell items at a price that you are not entitled to do.

Its a fundamentally simple concept that as an employee, you have a fiduciary duty to act in the best interests of your employer. There is an implied duty of fidelity and good faith. As soon as you placed the ad, you have breached your duty and the company was correct to get rid of you.

I'm glad you didn't pay for any legal advice, although now your in-laws must now think you are pretty dumb. Not something I'd be willing to do to save a few pennies on something that is blindingly obvious.

Maybe u are right...

But I didn't list any prices or any specific products....I simply asked "what are you looking for"...

Deuce · 03-01-12, 10:32 PM

Gee · 03-01-12, 10:34 PM

I don't think it makes a difference. The grounds for termination are the same; breaching your duty by looking to exploit your employee discount card for your personal gain (and against the company's interest, whose interest is NOT to sell discount products if it doesn't have to).

Its only because you didn't follow through that you aren't now being asked to account for the profits (or net losses) as well.

MoneyLineDawg · 03-01-12, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by bobby heenan

They told me a customer saw the ad and reported it to them...

I had correspondence with a few people and replied back to them...this customer may have gotten my email address and given it to them

When they first confronted me they had a police officer interview me ...they tried to relate the ad to missing product ... And I told them that I'd never stolen anything...and I explained what the ad was for.... They kinda got me there...but I was blindsided....

Still not sure how this is grounds when I didn't actually purchase anything

First of all, how do you not use a secondary e-mail address that no one would know who you were?

Second of all, you should have never admitted you were planning on doing that.....You could have said your wife buys and sells things online if they matched up your IP address (doubtful they would do that anyway)

How could they ever prove you were planning on buying the merchandise from the store you work at?

bobby heenan · 03-01-12, 10:36 PM

My biggest point is...I didn't purchase anything...that's not in dispute....so the action/violation isn't carried out

I can advertise anything for sale...doesn't mean I have it or have to sell it even if I did have it