Hallelujah! Lay & Skilling GUILTY!

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  • Willie Bee
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #1
    Hallelujah! Lay & Skilling GUILTY!
    Granted, they'll be serving time in a 'country club' and not some general population cell which is where their thieving butts belong.

    Not to mention, I win a bet I made with my pop about 4½ years ago when this first started to go down. I bet him that either Lay or Skilling would ultimately be found guilty, and my father was sure that they would escape with only a lower minion or two of getting a mild slap.

    The payoff: $100 worth of Hooters gift vouchers I see many wings, cold beers and big boobies in my near future

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12968481/?GT1=8199
    HOUSTON (AP) - Former Enron Corp. chiefs Kenneth Lay and Jeffrey Skilling were convicted Thursday of conspiracy to commit securities and wire fraud in one of the biggest business scandals in U.S. history.

    The verdict put the blame for the 2001 demise of the high-profile energy trader, once the nation’s seventh-largest company, squarely on its top two executives. It came in the sixth day of deliberations following a trial that lasted nearly four months.

    Lay was also convicted of bank fraud and making false statements to banks in a separate trial non-jury trial before U.S. District Judge Sim Lake related to Lay’s personal banking.
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    Lay was convicted on all six counts against him in the trial with Skilling. Skilling was convicted on 19 of the 28 counts against him, including one count of insider trading, and acquitted on the remaining nine.

    “Obviously, I’m disappointed,” Skilling told reporters outside the courthouse. “But that’s the way the system works.”

    Skilling’s lawyer, Dan Petrocelli, said the verdict “doesn’t change our view of what happened at Enron ... or Jeffrey Skilling’s innocence.”

    Lay did not come outside the courthouse to speak with reporters immediately after the verdict.

    Lake told jurors, “you have reflected on this evidence for the last few days and reached a very thorough verdict, and I thank you.”

    He set sentencing for Sept. 11.

    Lake set a $5 million bond for Lay and ordered him to surrender his passport before he leaves the courthouse. The judge said the bond already in place for Skilling was sufficient. The judge said he did not believe home confinement was necessary for either.

    The former corporate titans are now felons facing years in prison after being convicted of running an elaborate fraud that gave the company a glamorous illusion of success.

    Jurors declared through their verdict that both men repeatedly lied to cover a vast web of unsustainable accounting tricks and failing ventures that shoved Enron into bankruptcy protection in December 2001.

    The conviction was a major win for the government, serving almost as a bookend in an era that has seen prosecutors win convictions against executives from WorldCom Inc. to Adelphia Communications Corp. and homemaking maven Martha Stewart. The public outrage over the series of corporate scandals led Congress to pass the Sarbanes-Oxley act, designed to make company executives more accountable

    The panel rejected Skilling’s insistence that no fraud occurred at Enron other than a few executives skimming millions from secret scams behind his and Lay’s backs, and a lethal combination of bad press and poor market confidence sank the company.

    Both men testified in their own defense. Skilling is expected to appeal.

    The government’s victory caps a 4 1/2 year investigation that nabbed 16 guilty pleas from ex-Enron executives, including former Chief Financial Officer Andrew Fastow and former Chief Accounting Officer Richard Causey.

    All are awaiting sentencing later this year except for two who either finished or are serving prison terms.

    Many deemed the outcome of the Lay-Skilling case a final exam of sorts of the federal government’s ability to prove complicated corporate skullduggery.

    Enron’s implosion and the subsequent scandals vexed Wall Street, sent skittish investors fleeing, increased regulatory scrutiny over publicly traded companies and prompted Congress to stiffen white collar penalties.

    Former WorldCom head Bernard Ebbers awaits a 25-year prison term for orchestrating the $11 billion accounting fraud that bankrupted the company. Stewart did five months in prison and more time confined to work and home for lying about a stock sale. Adelphia Communications Inc. founder John Rigas and his son got double-digit prison terms for looting their company.

    HealthSouth Corp. founder Richard Scrushy bucked the trend with his acquittal last year of fraud charges despite five former finance chiefs pointing the finger at him in a $2.7 billion scheme to inflate earnings. He dropped in on the Lay-Skilling case during Fastow’s lengthy testimony in March, saying the ex-CFO couldn’t be believed.

    But those cases were much simpler than that against Lay and Skilling.

    The government’s vast investigation seemed to stall until Fastow pleaded guilty in January 2004 to two counts of conspiracy and paved the way for prosecutors to secure indictments against his bosses. Fastow also led investigators to Causey, who was bound for trial alongside Lay and Skilling until he broke ranks with their unified defense and pleaded guilty to securities fraud just weeks before the trial began.
  • Illusion
    Restricted User
    • 08-09-05
    • 25166

    #2
    Finally some justice for all of those who lost their ass.
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    • bigboydan
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-10-05
      • 55420

      #3
      i'm glad to see that justice was finally served.
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      • rolemand
        SBR MVP
        • 03-24-06
        • 1033

        #4
        Make sure not to spend the whole $100 in 1 trip so you can experience the ambience again.
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        • Seattle Slew
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-02-06
          • 7373

          #5
          Amazing how lawyer Dan Petrocelli can go from representing the Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown families in a civil suit to defending this Enron guy and still claiming afterwards he's innocent.
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          • The Great One
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-08-06
            • 792

            #6
            So Willie, you don't see them going to Huntsville with a cell down the block from "The Texas seven"?
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            • goldengoat
              SBR MVP
              • 11-25-05
              • 3239

              #7
              this brings a tear to my eye

              one of joy

              hope they get fu cking raped in prison and bi tch slapped
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              • The Great One
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 02-08-06
                • 792

                #8
                They'll just pay some huge fine to the government, then be barred from the country forever and disappear to come carribean island. I don't care what prosecutors and judges say; if you have enough money(I'm talking hundreds of millions) you can get out of anything.

                Everybody will be thinking they are in prison, but they'll be someplace under different names where no one has ever heard of Enron. It keeps the government rich and keeps the convicts safe.

                Just like if calvin ayre would step up to the plate, all of a sudden this anti-gambling bill would mysteriously disappear at the same time Goodlatte and his other bald faggots get a few annuities and real estate. Thats how the game's played.
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                • freebie
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 1174

                  #9
                  Originally posted by The Great One
                  They'll just pay some huge fine to the government, then be barred from the country forever and disappear to come carribean island. I don't care what prosecutors and judges say; if you have enough money(I'm talking hundreds of millions) you can get out of anything.

                  Everybody will be thinking they are in prison, but they'll be someplace under different names where no one has ever heard of Enron. It keeps the government rich and keeps the convicts safe.

                  Just like if calvin ayre would step up to the plate, all of a sudden this anti-gambling bill would mysteriously disappear at the same time Goodlatte and his other bald faggots get a few annuities and real estate. Thats how the game's played.
                  money talks. I believe all of it.
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                  • Willie Bee
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-14-06
                    • 15726

                    #10
                    Originally posted by The Great One
                    So Willie, you don't see them going to Huntsville with a cell down the block from "The Texas seven"?
                    Sadly, no. This is one time I really wish you were in charge of the sentencing, TGO




                    Originally posted by rolemand
                    Make sure not to spend the whole $100 in 1 trip so you can experience the ambience again.
                    Sound advice, indeed. I'm thinking of inviting my wife and her sisters along for lunch one day, then pull up in front of Hooters. This will erase any brownie points I may have earned recently and put me well in the red with all of them plus my maw-in-law once she hears about it. But, oh, how I do love to wind those ladies up and remind them that there's a lot of temptation out there should they slack off at home in certain areas of wifely duties
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                    • Winston Smith
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 09-26-05
                      • 752

                      #11
                      Just read an article in the St. Louis Post Dispatch about Lay trying to get a donation to Mizzou refunded to pay his legal fees. That's class.
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                      • Dark Horse
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-14-05
                        • 13764

                        #12
                        If Lay is still in the country by 9/11/06 I'll be very surprised. Passports are about $35 in downtown LA. Hard to believe these guys are free on bail.
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                        • tacomax
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 9619

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dark Horse
                          If Lay is still in the country by 9/11/06 I'll be very surprised.
                          Well he's dead - don't think he's going anywhere now.

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                          Originally posted by pags11
                          SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                          Originally posted by BuddyBear
                          I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
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                          • Illusion
                            Restricted User
                            • 08-09-05
                            • 25166

                            #14
                            Originally posted by tacomax
                            don't think he's going anywhere now.
                            With the shit he did I am sure he's going straight to hell.
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                            • EBone
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 1787

                              #15
                              If he had been sentenced to "Federal Pound Me In The Ass" prison, I bet he would have had a heart attack a lot sooner. Rest in peace, sir. May the Lord grant you one penny in the heavens or an endless abundance in the netherworld.


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                              • Willie Bee
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-14-06
                                • 15726

                                #16
                                I never wish death on anyone, but Lay got off easy even if he was heading to one of those panty waist prisons we should get rid of. Words do not exist to describe the total and utter vitriolic feelings I harbor for the scum that perpetrated those 'accounting scandals'
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                                • tacomax
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 9619

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                  Lay got off easy even if he was heading to one of those panty waist prisons we should get rid of.
                                  So TGO has been unbanned as well?
                                  Originally posted by pags11
                                  SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                  Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                  I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                  Originally posted by curious
                                  taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                  • Willie Bee
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-14-06
                                    • 15726

                                    #18
                                    Yeah, I guess that does sound a bit TGO-esque. But I stand by my statement nonetheless. Just think that a strong deterrent to committing these 'white collar crimes' would be a trip to general population awaiting those convicted.
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                                    • isetcap
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-16-05
                                      • 4006

                                      #19
                                      My girlfriend amongst other avid conspiracy theorists (typically hardcore liberals...read San Francisco Liberals) is convinced that Lay is not dead and that this is all some glorious coverup.
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