name your top 5 nba players.yes 5

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:23 PM

Kobe never shot 30% throughout an entire series, and Kobe never played as atrocious as Lebron did against Dallas.

I'm sure your smart enough to realize that kobes finals numbers/ playoff numbers in general are so low because shaq won him 3 rings when he wasn't the best player on his team.

When you put Kobe in the situation that Lebron was as the best player on his team the finals numbers aren't comparable.

I'm not sure why you keep trying to deny that Lebron cost his team two championships? It's quite clear. His regular season numbers are better, but he plays TERRIBLE in the finals. There's no denying that. And that's why he doesn't have any rings, it's not because the team wasn't good enough, it's because of his play.

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:27 PM

Post season stats:

PPG: Lebron 28
Kobe 25.4

Assists: Lebron 7
Kobe 4.8

Rebounds: Lebron 8.4
Kobe 5.1

FG%: Lebron 46%
Kobe 44.8%

Steals: Lebron 1.7
Kobe 1.4

PER: Lebron 26.3
Kobe 22.3

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:27 PM

In fact, after shaq left, Kobe's playoff numbers are 30 6 and 5 on 46%

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:28 PM

Post season stats:

PPG: Lebron 28
Kobe 25.4

Assists: Lebron 7
Kobe 4.8

Rebounds: Lebron 8.4
Kobe 5.1

FG%: Lebron 46%
Kobe 44.8%

Steals: Lebron 1.7
Kobe 1.4

PER: Lebron 26.3
Kobe 22.3

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by zsr

In fact, after shaq left, Kobe's playoff numbers are 30 6 and 5 on 46%

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by zsr

In fact, after shaq left, Kobe's playoff numbers are 30 6 and 5 on 46%

still not as good as lebrons

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:29 PM

And that's better then Lebron, unreal

So Kobe IS a better playoff performer, who would have guessed?

Stats dont lie

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:32 PM

30 6 and 5 better then 28 7 and 8.5?? wrong

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:33 PM

And then let's compare finals numbers

32 5 and 5

19 7 and 7

there's no comparison

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by zsr

And that's better then Lebron, unreal

So Kobe IS a better playoff performer, who would have guessed?

Stats dont lie

umm... so the first half of kobes career doesnt count now?

ok he only has two rings

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:34 PM

It's no wonder Lebron couldn't win with the best team in the league for 5 years

Kobe would have at least 4 with those Cleveland teams.

Stats don't lie, right?

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:34 PM

He has 2 rings as the best player on his team yes, everyone knows shaq won him the other 3.

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by zsr

And then let's compare finals numbers

32 5 and 5

19 7 and 7

there's no comparison

you mean 24 5 and 5?

ok lets take away lebrons finals performance last yr since you wanna take away kobes first three trips to the finals lol

you are funny

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by zsr

He has 2 rings as the best player on his team yes, everyone knows shaq won him the other 3.

pretty sure lebron will have a minimum of 2 rings by the time hes done as the best player on his team... even you can see that

and will still have better postseason numbers then kobe over the course of his WHOLE career, not taking away the first half like you need to do for kobe haha

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:36 PM

Imagine if Kobe got to play his first 5 years in Cleveland instead of with shaq.

4 rings. 32 5 and 5 in the playoffs. Would instantly be third best all time

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:37 PM

must suck to be choking on kobes rooster all the time... imagine all the gross places that thing has been

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:37 PM

Instead Lebron has choked away his only 2 finals performances, what a burial

Thirty percent shooting

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by zsr

Imagine if Kobe got to play his first 5 years in Cleveland instead of with shaq.

4 rings. 32 5 and 5 in the playoffs. Would instantly be third best all time

that is the dumbest comment you have ever made

yea, take the most dominant center of all time off his team, and he would have won mor rings then he did wiht him

seriously man, that rooster is gonna get you an std.. take it out

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:38 PM

Post season stats:

PPG: Lebron 28
Kobe 25.4

Assists: Lebron 7
Kobe 4.8

Rebounds: Lebron 8.4
Kobe 5.1

FG%: Lebron 46%
Kobe 44.8%

Steals: Lebron 1.7
Kobe 1.4

PER: Lebron 26.3
Kobe 22.3

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:40 PM

Those Cleveland teams statistically were better then every team in the league for about 5 years in a row, significantly better then the Kobe/pau teams, and Lebron didn't do anything

Stats dont lie, right? Funny how stats don't matter when they disagree with you

Go jump on another bandwagon, call yourself a Philly fan, unreal

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by zsr

And then let's compare finals numbers

32 5 and 5

19 7 and 7

there's no comparison

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dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:41 PM

funny what happened to that cleveland team since lebron left huh? best team in the league to below average...weird huh?

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by zsr

...

ok lebron averaged 50 25 and 25 lol

you cant just make up stats

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:42 PM

Post season stats:

PPG: Lebron 28
Kobe 25.4

Assists: Lebron 7
Kobe 4.8

Rebounds: Lebron 8.4
Kobe 5.1

FG%: Lebron 46%
Kobe 44.8%

Steals: Lebron 1.7
Kobe 1.4

PER: Lebron 26.3
Kobe 22.3

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by Br0nxer

Im a bigger kobe fan than anyone

He isnt top 5 anymore

this says enough to sum up this thread

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:48 PM

What did I make up? Those are his finals stats without shaq? What's made up?

Those Cleveland teams were best in the league for 5 years, Kobe would have at least 4 and probably 5 if he could have played on those teams. Stats don't lie, right?

nyplayer33 · 02-18-12, 01:49 PM

top 5

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:49 PM

Best team in the league for five years straight, make one finals, and shoot 30 percent

And then the best team in the league in Miami, TWO points in clutch time all series

Fukin bandwagon kid.

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:51 PM

Post season stats:

PPG: Lebron 28
Kobe 25.4

Assists: Lebron 7
Kobe 4.8

Rebounds: Lebron 8.4
Kobe 5.1

FG%: Lebron 46%
Kobe 44.8%

Steals: Lebron 1.7
Kobe 1.4

PER: Lebron 26.3
Kobe 22.3

zsr · 02-18-12, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by zsr

And then let's compare finals numbers

32 5 and 5

19 7 and 7

there's no comparison

Finals stats

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by zsr

And then let's compare finals numbers

24 5 and 5

19 7 and 7
there's no comparison

stats

corrected it for you

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 02:01 PM

Let me know when you wanna compare post season or regular season numbers and judge how great players are based on a real sample size 700+ games or even 50+ games in the post season.

kobes rooster suddenly might not taste as good as it apparently does right now

zsr · 02-18-12, 02:04 PM

Let me know when you want too compare finals, finals clutch numbers, finals defense, and of course, rings.

Before you say, TEAM ACCOMPLISHMENT, remember, those Cleveland teams were significantly better then the Kobe/pau teams. For five years straight. What happened then?

What happened last year?

Probably the team, right?

zsr · 02-18-12, 02:07 PM

BTW, what NFL team you rooting for this year? Probably wait to see who gets Peyton right?

Im guessing your suddenly an angels fan too, right?

dlunc3 · 02-18-12, 02:07 PM

Post season stats:

PPG: Lebron 28
Kobe 25.4

Assists: Lebron 7
Kobe 4.8

Rebounds: Lebron 8.4
Kobe 5.1

FG%: Lebron 46%
Kobe 44.8%

Steals: Lebron 1.7
Kobe 1.4

PER: Lebron 26.3
Kobe 22.3