illegal to have money at a book or send money

[RedSox88]

yea within a year from january they said so by 2013 sports betting will be LEGAL in NJ

[ImakeBets]

so one could fly to costa rica and deposit. then place bets from florida hmmm

I live in Canada, I could per say make the account for you, load it for you, then you handle the account from Florida?

Could charge a fee and make money off it...


I was actually in Florida a month ago, and I could place bets on Bwin but I wasn't able to deposit money onto my Bwin account while I was there

[Jayvegas420]

I'm Canadian too & as I understand we are not taxed on our winnings as we consequently cannot write off our losses.
Opening up these accounts for these poor Americans might not be such a bad idea.
I think the whole political debate in this thread is truly rediculous. Someone said it earlier in this thread, they are all politicians, right-left doesn't matter. They will do what they need to do to protect the incumbent powers that come along with maintaining their role in government. My spin on the whole thing is that America has spent so much time fighting the online gambling war to no avail, that now they are scrambling to catch up with other countries that haven't invested so much in the fight & are now so much further ahead in the industry.
I think your government is now realizing that they have really missed the boat after all these years & all of this in fighting, is certainly not helping.

And by the way the poor bastard who thinks that in spite of being a "have not", he will some day be one of the "HAVES"....Sir, GGood Luck to you in the future. Your faith in those who have led you to beleive this will do all they can to make sure it never happens. Because in addition to that incumbent power I refered to earlier....there is also a terrible incumbancy of wealth in your country that needs to change soon.


Citizens who subscribe to such rhetoric will always remain in the 99%.

[lt56]

America is spreading democracy; that's a joke. And to the silly Dems are good and repubs are bad people. It's the current administration who just approved drones flying over America and the National Defense Act which allows the military to now arrest Americans and detain them with no charges. They all suck. So American banks can't process gambling transactions but over $15 billion American dollars leave America to offshore sites. A $16 trillion dollar debt and the morons in Washington miss out on billions of potential tax revenue. I bet Costa Rica is more free and more fun; just a guess

[vividjohn45]

where I can find a list of States that prohibit "placing a wager"?

here u go man.

http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Laws/

where i am in oklahoma its a $25 - $100 dollar misdemeanor. and or both max 1 day in jail. (per wager or wagering time.) oklahoma law does not directly prohibit internet gaming.

don't feel to bad for me. we have a hard rock casino here. one of like 5-8 in the entire world. this is my legal haven.

but in actuality when i lived in las vegas it was a misdemeanor internet wagering. nevada law prohibits internet gaming.they don't want internet wager in vegas because the casinos are blocked by federal law.

but it appears this is changing for poker and casino gaming on the net. nevada is going to get a piece. fine. i am hoping nevada goes interstate (across state borders with their casinos and poker) and oklahoma allows it in their state, set up some kind of profit sharing with indians here.

i'd like to see the day when MGM grand advertises on SBR for a online casino and pokerroom.

it is hard for me to leave oklahoma now as my daughter has passed on and i have two grandchildren now to look after.


intra state is within a states borders.

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http://www.gambling-law-us.com/Federal-Laws/

these are the two levels you have to be concerned with. primarily federal law goes after the book or casino operator and not the bettor.

as far as fed RICO conspiracy to money launder. usDOJ let pokerstars give back the players money, but still went after pokerstars still on money laundering

so as a bettor for the most part you are clean and clear under federal law. be careful though.

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on the state level you do get caught but it it usually a misdemeanor.

+++++++but how many misdemeanors do you do?++++++++++++++

i've heard in new york city some auto owners have 100's of unpaid parking tickets.


so you got it. ok. buddy.

[byronbb]

Get ready

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-long-arm-uncle-sam-just-got-longer

[Bill Dozer]

A lot of the laws aren't clearly defined and it depends on how a prosecutor might argue they apply. Anyone concerned should speak with a qualified legal representative in their state or jurisdiction. In terms of online betting, out of millions who have or do, I think we have heard of one guy who was charged. It was through his state. Don't quote me, but I think he paid a $500 fine and moved to a different state.

[Living The Dream]

A lot of the laws aren't clearly defined and it depends on how a prosecutor might argue they apply. Anyone concerned should speak with a qualified legal representative in their state or jurisdiction. In terms of online betting, out of millions who have or do, I think we have heard of one guy who was charged through a state law. Don't quote me, but I think he paid a $500 fine and moved to a different state.

What state?

[OneLossParlayGuy]

What state?

North Dakota if I recall correctly

[Reno Paul]

I wouldn't want to live in Washington state and bet online.

[indio]

UIGEA was created by republican congressmen, was sped up stealthily through Congress concealed in a Port Authority legislation just before the 2006 elections by republican congressmen and was ultimately signed into law by a republican president. A democrat congressman (Barney Frank) actually tried to reverse the bill, but was unsuccessful in the Republican controlled House. So it is not all the same.

Furthermore, I think the belief that all politicians are scum and there is nothing you can do about it and just have to bend over whenever they have something on their mind is a fallacy.

True, most are scums. But all of them depend on the vote of the people for their job. So as long as they feel their job is safe, they do whatever they like (or, whatever lobbyist tell them). But when they feel the heat of people's discontent up their ass they are able to miraculously see the word in a different light. How quickly was SOPA flushed when enough people started protesting against it?

You really are quite clueless if you think political party has anything to do with online gambling legislation. I'ts all about whose interests are being protected. That's why UIGEA had carveout exceptions for Fantasy Football and Horse Racing, showing it's the who, rather than the why. Both parties have for and against representatives in congress, and always have. Sadly, it's only the pro freedom congressman who are pro, and the against (who are stronger) all have special lobbying interests to protect in both industry, and religious factions.


It was democrat Janet Reno (and her assistant Eric Holder) who began prosecuting internet gambling operators in the '90's. Republican prosecutor Catherine Holloway also was quite zealous in prosecuting internet gambling. Jack Abramhoff helped keep legislators from passing anything into law, but when he got busted, it was only a matter of time for something to get passed. But it was democrat Eric Holder who was the most destructive force and it's no coincidence that he was the NFL's top legal rep for years. Kyl is also a big gun for the NFL, and Harry Reid is naturally in the pocket of Vegas casinos.

Unfortunately, it will be revenue that will drive some internet gambling to be legislated and regulated, and this will also insure that the end "legalized" product will most likely be terrible for the players.

[LordVodka]

Can someone refresh my memory? Why is online betting illegal in Washington state?

[TR88]

bitcoin is the future

[paranoyd androyd]

yes it's illegal, everyone knows that

[Hareeba!]

yes it's illegal, everyone knows that

No. Only those who don't bother to read the information provided "know" that.

[Shaudius]

I've always voted Republican and always will...yet I'm very socially liberal. Prostitution? Should be legal. Pot? Legalize it. Abortion? Support it. Sports betting? Legalize it too.
However, and here's the glaring hole in your reductive argument...If you think that someone wanting sports betting legalized is a big enough reason to vote against a party by itself, then you have an addiction and need help.
My issue with the left has absolutely nothing to do with their social beliefs regarding the above mentioned topics...however, if you choose to extend unemployment, buy car manufacturers, and spend my future grandchildren's money wrecklessly, we have a problem. A much bigger problem than me not being able to place a wager on the Pacers to beat the Cavs tonight.

Nonetheless, the point is well taken. Sports betting should be legalized.

I'm confused, you say you've always voted Republican but only cite policies you disagree with from the last 4 years(one of which was started by a Republican president, the auto bailout). Are you <20 years old?

[paranoyd androyd]

No. Only those who don't bother to read the information provided "know" that.

is that why you always sweat your post-ups and p2p withdrawals from the philippines? get real with the semantics games.

[Hareeba!]

is that why you always sweat your post-ups and p2p withdrawals from the philippines? get real with the semantics games.

I have no idea what you are talking about and suggest you don't either.

Fact is that generally speaking it is NOT illegal for a punter to place online bets from within the US.

[paranoyd androyd]

'generally speaking' you're a clown. how about the money laundering part, is that 'generally speaking' not illegal either? lmfao @ this fukkin idiot.

[Hareeba!]

'generally speaking' you're a clown. how about the money laundering part, is that 'generally speaking' not illegal either? lmfao @ this fukkin idiot.

you're clearly getting your issues scrambled

money laundering and placing a sports bet on line are different things

one's illegal the other not at least in most states of the US

[paranoyd androyd]

you're the only scrambled mess here. re-read the title of the thread you fukkin idiot

[Hareeba!]

you're the only scrambled mess here. re-read the title of the thread you fukkin idiot

yep, that's the question I thought you were answering

and you got it wrong