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  • parexa
    SBR Sharp
    • 01-21-10
    • 354

    #71
    kiddo dont be mad at heat. worry about bulls. i have to admit that it was some funny ish when d. rose whined like a punk when pacers handled them with ease. when do you see wade crying after a meaningless game?
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    • zsr
      SBR MVP
      • 06-01-10
      • 4117

      #72
      Wade and Lebron are too busy throwing championship celebrations before the season. Of course we all know how that ended up
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      • MiAMiEDDY
        SBR Sharp
        • 12-14-11
        • 277

        #73
        Originally posted by zsr
        75% of sbr is filled with 18 year old heat bandwagon fans like you. See: this thread.

        Kiddo, you have no clue about the game of basketball.

        Poll on sbr unreal the kiddos on here
        Says the guy with 3thousand post. Sorry sport but your still a failure.

        Case closed.
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        • zsr
          SBR MVP
          • 06-01-10
          • 4117

          #74
          Good one, kiddo. Your parents probably don't let you on the computer much. Get those grades up!

          Maybe have them allow you to watch Westbrook tape so you can see how much better then wade he is? Probably too much to ask of them.
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          • TodayIsForgotten
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 06-19-06
            • 534

            #75
            I"m confused, how is westbrook not even close to wade? Westbrook has been fantastic this year. His jumper is getting better as well as he's three's. He cuts his turnovers in half or more and he's going to be even more of a nightmare.

            I will definitely agree that this year he is better than wade, as of now. You have 3 super stars on each team. Who cares who is clutch. Miami still has an identity crisis. Lebron was at one point pretty clutch. Now? not so much.
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            • hawley
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              • 05-10-10
              • 14270

              #76
              Look at the people OKC put on the floor with Harden when he does his damage?

              Of course he does everything because he is surrounded by mediocrity. He is having a good season but he is far from being included in a big 3 title.
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              • zsr
                SBR MVP
                • 06-01-10
                • 4117

                #77
                Originally posted by TodayIsForgotten
                I"m confused, how is westbrook not even close to wade? Westbrook has been fantastic this year. His jumper is getting better as well as he's three's. He cuts his turnovers in half or more and he's going to be even more of a nightmare.

                I will definitely agree that this year he is better than wade, as of now. You have 3 super stars on each team. Who cares who is clutch. Miami still has an identity crisis. Lebron was at one point pretty clutch. Now? not so much.
                I just think most people don't realize how good Russ is. Like I said he's really come into his own this year and I dont even think there's any question, he is better then wade.

                Like you said his jumper is there, his 3 is improved, and that's not even getting into his elite defense.
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                • dlunc3
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-31-09
                  • 9129

                  #78
                  westbrook may very well be better then wade... but durrant isnt anywhere near lebrons leagues and harden doesnt even belong on the same court as bosh
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                  • zsr
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-01-10
                    • 4117

                    #79
                    Originally posted by hawley
                    Look at the people OKC put on the floor with Harden when he does his damage?

                    Of course he does everything because he is surrounded by mediocrity. He is having a good season but he is far from being included in a big 3 title.
                    What are you talking about? He plays with durant and Westbrook most of the time besides the first 2 or 3 minutes that he's in there.

                    There best lineup is durant, cook, Russ and harden with either ibaka or perk.

                    He gets looked over the same way Manu does, both are legitimate superstars.
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                    • hawley
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                      • 05-10-10
                      • 14270

                      #80
                      Westbrook's game may be at the elite stage but he has a long way to go mentally
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                      • hawley
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                        • 05-10-10
                        • 14270

                        #81
                        Originally posted by zsr
                        What are you talking about? He plays with durant and Westbrook most of the time besides the first 2 or 3 minutes that he's in there.

                        There best lineup is durant, cook, Russ and harden with either ibaka or perk.
                        He spends more minutes with Jackson, Collison etc which is when he gets to handle the ball and do what he likes.

                        When he plays with Durant and Westbrook in there he does nothing special
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                        • dlunc3
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-31-09
                          • 9129

                          #82
                          lebron and durrant are close in terms of scoring.. but lebron makes his teammates much better and is way better defensively
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                          • zsr
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-01-10
                            • 4117

                            #83
                            Originally posted by hawley

                            He spends more minutes with Jackson, Collison etc which is when he gets to handle the ball and do what he likes.

                            When he plays with Durant and Westbrook in there he does nothing special
                            He doesn't do anything special, but he does everything at an elite level. Just nothing about him is flashy. He's a superstar.
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                            • zsr
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-01-10
                              • 4117

                              #84
                              I think Lebron gets too much credit for his defense.

                              He shut rose down but they were running haslem at him or trapping half the time, and remember he shut Terry down for 2 games in the finals and then Terry destroyed him the rest of the series.

                              Lebron is a better passer sure. I'll give you that.
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                              • dlunc3
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 10-31-09
                                • 9129

                                #85
                                bosh is better defensively, better scorer, better rebounder, and has a better player EFF... where is the question?

                                Miami: 2 (lebron + bosh)

                                OKC: 1 (westbrook)

                                Surrounding cast out side these three: OKC
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                                • hawley
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 05-10-10
                                  • 14270

                                  #86
                                  Is Durant a great defender though?

                                  He has the length to bother shots but can he lock players down?
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                                  • zsr
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-01-10
                                    • 4117

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by hawley
                                    Is Durant a great defender though?

                                    He has the length to bother shots but can he lock players down?
                                    No not yet. Although he improved significantly this year, normally they put thabo and Westbrook on the two best players and let durant cover the teams worst offensive player.
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                                    • freeVICK
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-21-08
                                      • 7114

                                      #88
                                      Wade > westbrook easy
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                                      • face
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-31-11
                                        • 14740

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by dlunc3
                                        westbrook may very well be better then wade... but durrant isnt anywhere near lebrons leagues and harden doesnt even belong on the same court as bosh
                                        agree with all that
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                                        • zsr
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-01-10
                                          • 4117

                                          #90
                                          Harden is as good if not better then bosh. Hard to compare because bosh plays power forward and most of the time harden has the ball in his hands though. I'm telling you guys watch harden for 5 minutes, you'll see Manu ginobli. Not surprising he's getting discredited the way manu always has.
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                                          • zsr
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 06-01-10
                                            • 4117

                                            #91
                                            Harden plays on the wing and has a significantly better TS% then Chris bosh. Hes a much better scorer.

                                            That's probably the only thing we can compare because of the size/position difference. Unless you want to compare PER which harden also has over bosh.
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                                            • dlunc3
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 10-31-09
                                              • 9129

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by zsr
                                              Harden plays on the wing and has a significantly better TS% then Chris bosh. Hes a much better scorer.

                                              That's probably the only thing we can compare because of the size/position difference. Unless you want to compare PER which harden also has over bosh.

                                              Not true
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                                              • zsr
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 06-01-10
                                                • 4117

                                                #93
                                                Check PER. He's 1 full point better then bosh.

                                                Your talking the ESPN hollinger PER right?
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                                                • parexa
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                                                  • 01-21-10
                                                  • 354

                                                  #94
                                                  westbroke is a jumpshooter, wade drives to the basket. westbroke is immature, wade is a warrior who gets better with pressure. westbroke is unreliable. wade is a superstar.

                                                  and thats just the way it is.


                                                  compare rose to wade - OK, compare westbroke to wade - never.
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                                                  • face
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                                                    • 01-31-11
                                                    • 14740

                                                    #95
                                                    ^numbers say otherwise. westbrook drives to the basket. westbrook having HUGE year.
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                                                    • Big Bear
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 11-01-11
                                                      • 43253

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                      You're wrong.

                                                      Even if you were right, they don't play 3 on 3.

                                                      GTFO


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                                                      • zsr
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                                                        • 06-01-10
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                                                        #97
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                                                        • hawley
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                                                          • 05-10-10
                                                          • 14270

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by zsr
                                                          doesn't bumping this counter your whole argument?

                                                          They might be putting up huge numbers (aside from Harden 2/12) but ultimately they are in OT at home battling to beat the Nuggets

                                                          Would the Heat be in the same position?
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                                                          • zsr
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-01-10
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                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by hawley

                                                            doesn't bumping this counter your whole argument?

                                                            They might be putting up huge numbers (aside from Harden 2/12) but ultimately they are in OT at home battling to beat the Nuggets

                                                            Would the Heat be in the same position?
                                                            The argument wasn't about the team (though the thread turned into that somehow) it was about the 3 vs 3.
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                                                            • Pauulzcappin
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                                                              • 04-23-10
                                                              • 20295

                                                              #100
                                                              Completely eliminating the support casts from the conversation... Would you take Durant, Westbrook and Harden over Bosh, Wade and James to start a team?
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                                                              • hawley
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                                                                • 05-10-10
                                                                • 14270

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by zsr

                                                                The argument wasn't about the team (though the thread turned into that somehow) it was about the 3 vs 3.
                                                                in that case who really cares? Like others have said basketball is 5 v 5.
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                                                                • zsr
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 06-01-10
                                                                  • 4117

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Durant and Lebron are obviously some form of 1A 1B, so that's a push.

                                                                  Russ is better than wade.

                                                                  Harden better TS% and PER than bosh, all we can compare because of size.
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                                                                  • dlunc3
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 10-31-09
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    sure they are a great 2... they have no 3rd to compare to bosh
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                                                                    • zsr
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 06-01-10
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by hawley
                                                                      in that case who really cares? Like others have said basketball is 5 v 5.
                                                                      OKC would win a 7 game series.
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                                                                      • hawley
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                                                                        • 05-10-10
                                                                        • 14270

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
                                                                        Completely eliminating the support casts from the conversation... Would you take Durant, Westbrook and Harden over Bosh, Wade and James to start a team?
                                                                        Given the ages of the two yes.

                                                                        edit: now we are backing to discussing basketball not 3 v 3 if you want to talk a 7 game series?

                                                                        What about defense? OKC couldn't stop a thing tonight. Heat defence is far superior.
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