Roy Jones Jr V Joe Calzaghe

rjt721 · 09-09-08, 05:58 PM

Pinnacle has Jones +271.
TheGreek has RJJ +270.

If you're not familiar with either book, they're as reliable as it gets.

Personally, I have a hard time envisioning a scenario in which Roy wins this fight. Calzaghe's work rate is just too much, while Roy's been less and less prone to trade as his reflexes have significantly diminished.

Good luck.

englishmike · 09-09-08, 05:59 PM

www.oddschecker.com

Best available is 3-1 with Skybet in the UK. Theyre a safe book.

I.R.B · 09-09-08, 10:16 PM

I would go with TheGreek

englishmike · 09-09-08, 10:32 PM

Why would he go with The Greek if he can get an extra 30c on every dollar he wagers?

I'm assuming he's got access to Euro books and thats the reason he asked the question. Be a bit silly to ask that question and then ignore a better price.

Skybet are owned by BSKYB, which is the UK's biggest satelite TV provider and BSKYB is owned by News International(Rupert Murdoch)

MonkeyF0cker · 09-09-08, 10:39 PM

You on super Joe, Mike?

Matt Rain · 09-09-08, 10:43 PM

Agree with rjt, I don't see any way Jones can win this. Calzaghe is the worst possible matchup for him - rangy southpaw who puts constant pressure. Roy will spend 90% of the fight in the ropes with both his gloves glued to his face while Calzaghe slaps him to death.

Wide UD for Calzaghe.

englishmike · 09-09-08, 11:07 PM

Calzaghe is probably one of the lowest profile multi-weight champion boxing has ever seen. He's the longest reigning champion and seems to just find a way of beating opponents, it's not like he hasn't been in trouble in some of those fights but the wins against Hopkins, Kessler and Jeff Lacey in particular just show how durable he is. He's got an awkward stance and good hand speed, and its those two things that have seen him become as succesful as he's been. Jones has dodged Calzaghe many times by asking for ridiculous money and youd have to think his time has gone and hes looking for one final payday. I dont know enough about Jones recent mindset to really make a comment, but I do know he hasnt fought at Super Middleweight for over 10 years and I also know he's 1-3 in his last4. Calzaghe will probably overpower him but I wouldn't expect it to be over quickly, Jones is too proud for that. Should be a good fight.

TheBeautifulGame · 09-10-08, 04:41 AM

Thanks for all the tips guys! It's much appreciated. I'm not usually one for making bets just because I'm a fan of a sportsman/team but it could be one of the main reasons, I want to place a bet on Roy.(It's not going to be huge). However, I do believe that Roy has a good chance of winning this fight (Although, some of his performances in recent times haven't been the greatest). What I have noticed, is Calzaghe may be quick but he does leave himself open to be countered which Roy will and is good at taking advantage of. Roy is also quick, he has slowed down in recent times, which is obviously down to age but he can keep up with Joe.If this was eight years ago, there would be no question that Roy would win but we can't live in the past.lol. Whoever wins this fight, I do believe it will go the distance.

I think so far, I will go with pinnacle (been meaning to open an account with them + they have the best odds so far). Cheers for the tip rjt721. Anyway, lets keep the discussion going, thanks.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 09-10-08, 04:21 PM

TheBeautifulGame i'm also gonna bet Roiy Jones, he still has a good chance of winning, still very quick and Calzaghe won't be able to knock him out (in my opinion) so Roy being at +270's, i gotta take him.

TheBeautifulGame · 09-11-08, 03:25 AM

That is a good decision LOCKSMITH. It's a decent enough price. Although Calzaghe is the favorite to win, he is not a HEAVY fav to win! (Considering, the astounding favs you find very often in boxing, favs such as 1/100 or (+3000) Roy has a very good chance of winning this fight. Are you going to take the the bet as Roy simply to win or are you going to choose an outcome? I am considering Roy to win on points which EURO bookies are currently offering 5/1 (+500).

I have this feeling that Roy Jones will win in ROUND 10. I do not honesty 100% think it will happen, but I am defiently going to spare a few euro (may be 10) for the bet which I believe SKYBET are offering 80/1 (+8000). That would be nice 80 x 10 = 800. Why not, if not just for a bit of fun?lol. Anyway, the best of luck!

THE_LOCKSMITH · 09-11-08, 03:45 AM

Great point TheBeautifulGame, last boxing matcht i bet on i took margarito to win a decision over Cotto and was burned when he finished him in thw 11th (paid +625) These lines are not up at my book yet but i will take Roy Jones by decision because i don't see eith of these guys getting ko'd. I'm guessing the total on the rounds will be 11.5 i see it going the distance.

TheBeautifulGame · 09-11-08, 10:00 AM

Yes, I can defiently see the fight going the distance. I would not take odds less than 5/1 (+500) from you book for Jones to win on points. That is the average odds offered pretty much everywhere. I'm sure, I can find better, I will let you know. Can you access EURO books Locksmith?

JerseyRob · 09-11-08, 07:05 PM

Roy Jones in his prime destroys Joe Calzaghe. Roy Jones is way past his prime and will get outworked and lose a lopsided decision.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 09-11-08, 07:59 PM

Yeah calzaghe might outwork him, but he didn't look great vs Hopkins Roy jones blew out Tito Trinidad (whatever thats worth). but Roy jones is the bigger man and still has speed laying down a bet for him to win by decision for +500-+600, i feel theres huge value in that

TruckerJoe · 09-12-08, 10:33 AM

I'm on Jones 3/1 at Ladbrokes. I reckon he's too strong for Joe.

Also, I might have a pop at Mora to beat Forrest on Saturday. Evens money at Pinnacle

THE_LOCKSMITH · 09-13-08, 05:44 AM

yea this fight is still several weeks away (Nov 8th) if you want to bet on Roy jones i'd say do it soon. I feel that number is gonna get bet way down the closer w get to fightnight.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 11-04-08, 05:32 PM

Update less than a week to go and the price on jones has come way down

JOE CALZAGHE -265
ROY JONES JR +225

Dante799 · 11-04-08, 08:40 PM

I'm liking Roy in this fight, when he wins , he will have a rematch with Hopkins...

Dante799 · 11-04-08, 08:41 PM

even dough he gave my uncle a black eye while playing basketball...lol

Matt Rain · 11-04-08, 10:26 PM

Calzaghe is almost free money. He's way too active for an old Jones, who will spend the better part of the fight on the ropes with his gloves glued to his face.

Haha, I just read my previous post. I'm a broken record.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 11-05-08, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by Matt Rain

Calzaghe is almost free money. He's way too active for an old Jones, who will spend the better part of the fight on the ropes with his gloves glued to his face.

Haha, I just read my previous post. I'm a broken record.

doubt it, Calzaghe don't have the power to hurt jones like a Tarver did. His gloves will be glued to Joe's face

pat venditto · 11-05-08, 06:12 AM

no reason why calzahge doesnt win this

Matt Rain · 11-05-08, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

doubt it, Calzaghe don't have the power to hurt jones like a Tarver did. His gloves will be glued to Joe's face

Sir, please watch each boxer's last fights. Calzaghe-Jones will be a repeat of Tarver-Jones III. Calzaghe might even stop him late - not because of his power, but because of the accumulation of punches. Jones will not be able to land or do anything meaningful. Wide UD or late TKO for Joe.

Seriously. I'm a huge Jones fan - he's the reason I got into boxing in the 90's. This ain't the 90's anymore and Jones' legs are gone.

rjt721 · 11-07-08, 05:43 PM

Completely changed my tune on this fight, so much so that I bought a piece of Roy decision +475 at Greek earlier in the week. Roy's speed, while not what it once was, will still give Calzaghe trouble. B-Hop landed some excellent counter shots, and he doesn't have anything close to the hand speed that RJJ possesses. And while Roy's proven to have a suspect chin late in his career, I don't think that comes into play here. Zags doesn't have any pop; his punches are glorified slaps. This should allow Roy to take more chances than he's accustomed to because he knows Calzaghe's not a puncher. But I say all of this knowing that it's virtually impossible to gauge what Roy has left and what kind of fighter he is right now. I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt when he contends his three consecutive losses were largely a result of the strain he put on his body by moving up to heavy and quickly dropping the weight by moving back down to 175. After getting dropped by Tarver in their second fight, he fought returned to the ring way too soon by taking on Glen Johnson just four months later. And the third Tarver fight, Roy didn't even show up to win. If Roy's active and throws enough to compensate for Calzaghe's volume of punches, he can win a decision. But impossible to tell what Roy has left.

Matt Rain · 11-07-08, 06:08 PM

I really don't think that Roy has enough stamina anymore to neutralize Calzaghe's barrage of punches, but if he does, I'll be one happy fanboy. Notwithstanding my small bet, I'm actually rooting for Jones to destroy the silly Welsh slapper. I just don't see it.

I'm frickin' pumped for this fight, even though it's happening 7-8 years too late.

BOL to all

AUSSIE_PUNTER · 11-07-08, 08:10 PM

Roy Will Knock Him In 6 This Fight Wont Make The 6th Round Roy By Ko

Matt Rain · 11-07-08, 08:15 PM

Gah, stop messing with my head, guys.

I just saw the weigh-in pics and I wasn't expecting Roy to look that much bigger than Joe.

Matt Rain · 11-07-08, 08:16 PM

Nice boxers, Roy.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 11-07-08, 10:12 PM

Had to do it, took Jones Jr by decision +350.

teaserpleaser · 11-08-08, 01:49 AM

hard to bet against Roy... I'll take the dog

rjt721 · 11-08-08, 02:17 AM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

Had to do it, took Jones Jr by decision +350.

You realize that's a terrible line, right?

THE_LOCKSMITH · 11-08-08, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by rjt721

You realize that's a terrible line, right?

i have 2 books one had it at +375 (no funds in that account)
the other had it at +350 so i took it. Why how big are the odds you have and at what book?

rjt721 · 11-08-08, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

i have 2 books one had it at +375 (no funds in that account)
the other had it at +350 so i took it. Why how big are the odds you have and at what book?

Greek currently has +400 (was +450 most of the day and +475/+480 earlier in the week). 5Dimes has +440 right now. Pinnacle +434. WSEX +400. Bodog +380.

+350 is the worst number I've seen.

rm18 · 11-08-08, 02:38 AM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

i have 2 books one had it at +375 (no funds in that account)
the other had it at +350 so i took it. Why how big are the odds you have and at what book?

the point is you need to just take Jones before you take that line. You really think there is only like a 5% chance that Jones stops Calzaghe? Because that is about the difference between that prop line and the best line you can bet on