They played together for a year and I respect Kurt for where he came from. Uh Kurt, Eli Manning 2 Super Bowl MVP's and only 31 years old buddy. It's not always about the statistics (ask Joe Namath--more INT's than TD's)--Warner himself has only 1 Super Bowl win and 2 losses. If he want's in, he should stay silent because he's boarderline and probably in himself. Eli has many years to go.
Kurt Warner Declares Eli not a Hall of Famer-
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will2surviveSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-26-09
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#1Kurt Warner Declares Eli not a Hall of Famer-Tags: None -
Monitor-TanSBR MVP
- 02-20-11
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#2As big of a Giants fan I am, I agree.
He's improved A LOT the last couple of season and this season he really broke out..
I feel he's top class QB up there right now, but as a Hall of Famer not yet..
The thing is he's got so many years left in him that if he keeps playing like this and even improves, there will be no doubt he will be..
But as of RIGHT NOW, no. He's right near the border though.Comment -
Doc JSSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-15-06
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#3We live in a 24 hr news cycle where everything that happens is the biggest, best thing in the history of man. So over reaction & hyperbole are the order of the day. After the Super Bowl, people were quick to move Eli past Peyton and on into the HOF.
Kurt's point was Eli is not HOF TODAY.
Agree he is on a HOF trajectory but if he never played another down, he doesn't get into the HOF.
Brady is in. Peyton is in.
Brees, Rogers, Eli not in today.
Absolutely nothing wrong with what Warner said. FWIW,I think KW is a borderline HOF candidate.Comment -
HurlsSBR MVP
- 12-17-11
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#4I agree I dont know why anyone is even talking about Eli with the hall of fame, he is not injured or going to retire so let things play out.Comment -
ScorpionSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-04-05
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#5Kurt is jealous because Eli has won more super bowls than his sorry ass and Elis wife is so beautiful
Kurts wife is so ugly wtf does he know
Kurt married her when he was working in a grocery store selling candy, fukking loser
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wantitall4moiSBR MVP
- 04-17-10
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#6NFL hall of fame is a joke anyway they let anyone in. Look at the guys who got in this year. LOL Bill Parcells (and I think Parcells is over rated)and Tim Brown on the list and they put in the stiffs that they did. Curtis Martin, not even close to a H.O.F. quality guy.
Warner isnt a hall of fame guy, not even close. System QB at its finest.
I dont think Eli is either, he just doesnt make mistakes so he is right in line with guys like Trent Dilfer or a Brad Johnson type. Sure he has two now, big deal. Guys are way to quick to anoint these guys into the hall of fame.
So I really wouldnt sweat it these guys will all eventually get in. Football is the hall of very good or actually, hall of anyone that was good for a couple years. Not even close to a hall of fame.Comment -
will2surviveSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-26-09
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#7Originally posted by Doc JSWe live in a 24 hr news cycle where everything that happens is the biggest, best thing in the history of man. So over reaction & hyperbole are the order of the day. After the Super Bowl, people were quick to move Eli past Peyton and on into the HOF.
Kurt's point was Eli is not HOF TODAY.
Agree he is on a HOF trajectory but if he never played another down, he doesn't get into the HOF.
Brady is in. Peyton is in.
Brees, Rogers, Eli not in today.
Absolutely nothing wrong with what Warner said. FWIW,I think KW is a borderline HOF candidate.
As of today...2 Super Bowl MVP's knocking off a legendary QB and team twice. Mastering numerous unbeliveable comebacks and Eli get's no consideration if he doesn't play another down?
His body of work right now assures him a spot in Canton (imho)
He's not like Terrell Davis--I think 8 years is enough and finish on topComment -
p19101SBR MVP
- 11-17-11
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#8Huge Giants fan and Eli fan, but I also tend to agree with Warner. Eli needs 2-3 more seasons like this one where he has great stats. But when all is said and done I'm positive he'll be a first ballot HOFer. Eli has many years left of his career unless something unexpected happens. Warner on the other side might not get in anytime soon.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#9Warner right but if Eli has some good future years he is in
does not have to win anymore superbowls thoughComment -
will2surviveSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-26-09
- 8099
#10Originally posted by p19101Huge Giants fan and Eli fan, but I also tend to agree with Warner. Eli needs 2-3 more seasons like this one where he has great stats. But when all is said and done I'm positive he'll be a first ballot HOFer. Eli has many years left of his career unless something unexpected happens. Warner on the other side might not get in anytime soon.
I looked at the Stats and Warner played 12 years with comperable stats to Eli's (slightly more yards) Warner does have 2 NFL MVP's. He's so boarderline but it's the manner that Manning has won. The ultimate clutch player on the biggest stage. He's played 8 seasons. I think that he's in now but even 1 more 4000 yard season and he's definitely in.Comment -
icancount2oneSBR MVP
- 01-05-10
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#11Brees in 100%, guy wins at life and has a ring and Marino's record. Eli and Rodgers probably already as well. Rodgers' numbers are just insane (45 TDs and 6 picks are Madden numbers) and he already has the ring.Originally posted by Doc JSWe live in a 24 hr news cycle where everything that happens is the biggest, best thing in the history of man. So over reaction & hyperbole are the order of the day. After the Super Bowl, people were quick to move Eli past Peyton and on into the HOF.
Kurt's point was Eli is not HOF TODAY.
Agree he is on a HOF trajectory but if he never played another down, he doesn't get into the HOF.
Brady is in. Peyton is in.
Brees, Rogers, Eli not in today.
Absolutely nothing wrong with what Warner said. FWIW,I think KW is a borderline HOF candidate.
If anybody in this conversation should be questionable for the Hall, it's Shady Brady, although I'm sure he'll go first ballot. All of his notable accomplishments have come by cheating, and he whines until they change the rules.Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.Comment -
p19101SBR MVP
- 11-17-11
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#12I think he will eventually get in with what he has today, but he needs slightly more to get in right away? Don't get me wrong, in my eyes he is HOF for sure, but just trying to see it from a neutral point of view. I wouldn't be surprised to see him needing to get a bit extra as media always finds a way to discredit him and never get him the appreciation he deserves. As a Giant fan there is no other QB I rather have than Eli on my team, I know he'll get the job done.Originally posted by will2surviveI looked at the Stats and Warner played 12 years with comperable stats to Eli's (slightly more yards) Warner does have 2 NFL MVP's. He's so boarderline but it's the manner that Manning has won. The ultimate clutch player on the biggest stage. He's played 8 seasons. I think that he's in now but even 1 more 4000 yard season and he's definitely in.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#14Is Ben Rothlisberger a Hall of Famer?Comment -
k13SBR Posting Legend
- 07-16-10
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#15super bowls are overrated.Comment -
Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
- 10-30-05
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#16Let's get real... Eli is a lock for the HOF
Say he never plays another down (god forbid) he would still get in maybe not in his 1st yr of eligibility but later
His 4th Qt drives this yr were fukking amazing then cap the yr off with one in the SB and winning is HOF worthyComment -
ttwarrior1BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 06-23-09
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#17k warner not a hall of famer eitherComment -
NYSportsGuy210SBR Posting Legend- 11-07-09
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#18Kurt Warner is a Hall of Famer......on what planet?Comment -
nyplayer33Restricted User
- 09-27-06
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#19well...I have to agree with Kurt on this one. You are judged by your career, not your playoffs. Things that I have noticed with Eli..TD's to INT's are not 2 to 1 like other very good qb;s..his copletion percentage is around 58 percent..could be higher. He has been boed at home and has been very inconsistent.Comment -
ScorpionSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-04-05
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#20Eli is a winnerComment -
ttrace35SBR Posting Legend
- 09-30-10
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#21Doesn't she have cancer or something? Dudes are foul for calling her ugly.Comment -
ScorpionSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-04-05
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#22I dont think Warner should be in the hall of fameOriginally posted by NYSportsGuy210Kurt Warner is a Hall of Famer......on what planet?
How Kurt Warner lost 2 super bowls
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Mr HandicapableSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-23-07
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#23Who gives a damn....Marino has already said he'd trade the HOF for a SB ring any day of the week!!Comment -
bettilimbroke999SBR Posting Legend
- 02-04-08
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#24Nobody better today in the BIG games than Eli, he's an absolute lock, just for kickin the Pats nuts in in EVERY super bowl they've played in he's a lockComment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#25Yes. First of all, football is a team game and super bowls are won by teams. Lot of players have won multiple super bowls. Doesn't mean they sniff the HOF. Just because a QB is involved, doesn't make them a HOF.Originally posted by k13super bowls are overrated.
Eli nowhere near the HOF at the moment. He could get there some day, but if he retired right now, not even close.Comment -
Fieldysnuts44SBR MVP
- 10-02-08
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#26Warner needs to S.T.F.U.,he's not hall of fame worthy either.I'm just surprised he had the balls to say it and not have his wife do it.Comment -
Ghenghis KahnSBR Posting Legend
- 01-02-12
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#27Originally posted by will2surviveThey played together for a year and I respect Kurt for where he came from. Uh Kurt, Eli Manning 2 Super Bowl MVP's and only 31 years old buddy. It's not always about the statistics (ask Joe Namath--more INT's than TD's)--Warner himself has only 1 Super Bowl win and 2 losses. If he want's in, he should stay silent because he's boarderline and probably in himself. Eli has many years to go.
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eli has two rings and peyton has one, as of right now who gets in and who doesn't? number of rings doesn't pencil you in automatically.Comment -
will2surviveSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-26-09
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#28Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahneli has two rings and peyton has one, as of right now who gets in and who doesn't? number of rings doesn't pencil you in automatically.
Both Mannings get in. Peyton has 4 NFL MVP Awards and 1 Super Bowl win. Eli has the 2 Superbowls in where he played a legendary team and came back in dramatic fashion. Let's face it, the Giants ran the table on the road in 2007 and mostly in these playoffs. It's the manner, the method, the heroics that Eli Manning displayed that makes him a Hall of Famer.
Dan Marino never won and of course he's a Hall of famer.
Kurt Warner questioned Eli and I'm debating Kurt Warners declaration. Eli Manning is a hall of famer right now. Sure, as I mentioned, another 4000 yard season will solidify or better yet make it more immediate when he's eligible.Comment -
beerman2619SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-24-09
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#29Christ some of you even know football? Eli isn't a hall of fame qb right now learn the game. He had his best season this season that is true. MVP of both super bowls
thats a joke. If anything what won the Giants both super bowls over the pats was the defense. And two miracle catches one by David Tyree and Mario Manningham. How many times has Eli won the regular season mvp anyone anyone? None stats speak for themselves Eli Manning has never been consistant in his career. He still has a ways to go to be a hall of famer.
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d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#30Are you kidding me? Peyton is a first ballot HOF'er period case closed end of story. Eli has more work to do.Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahneli has two rings and peyton has one, as of right now who gets in and who doesn't? number of rings doesn't pencil you in automatically.Comment -
frostno98SBR Hall of Famer
- 09-11-07
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#31You hit it right on the nail. The Giants defense twice, contained the highest scoring offense the NFL Patriots to less than 20 points in the Superbowl. The 2008 Patriots averaged 36 points, while their 2011 version averaged 32 points. Talk about giving the wrong guy all the credit. Manning just hanged around long enough to get lucky at the end. If he was so great, it wouldn't require a miraculous comeback to win both times, considering how great his defense played against Brady. Any quarterback getting that much opportunities with defensive stops, can beat anyone.Originally posted by beerman2619Christ some of you even know football? Eli isn't a hall of fame qb right now learn the game. He had his best season this season that is true. MVP of both super bowls
thats a joke. If anything what won the Giants both super bowls over the pats was the defense. And two miracle catches one by David Tyree and Mario Manningham. How many times has Eli won the regular season mvp anyone anyone? None stats speak for themselves Eli Manning has never been consistant in his career. He still has a ways to go to be a hall of famer.Comment -
Ghenghis KahnSBR Posting Legend
- 01-02-12
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#32reading comprehension problems? reread what i wrote.Originally posted by d2betsAre you kidding me? Peyton is a first ballot HOF'er period case closed end of story. Eli has more work to do.
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