Patriots wont win shit until they have a good defense

dredmahawkus · 02-06-12, 03:32 PM

you didnt hear the news? Belichick just traded their first 2 rounds of picks for a dozen 5th rounders.

Grits n' Gravy · 02-06-12, 03:48 PM

They have a handful of key FA's to resign. Welker and Connelly are top of list. Then they got to decide if Carter, Anderson, Ellis are worth bringing back. Law Firm likely to leave so Ridley and Vereen were picked to learn system and replace him and Faulk. I'd expect them to cut Ocho unless they believe he will pick up system with a full offseason and a pay cut. I'm sure they have some free agents in mind already and expect a draft to be filled with pass rushers, db's and a wr who can stretch field.

chopperocker · 02-06-12, 03:58 PM

LOCK of the 2012-13 season..... week 01 NYG ATS & ML / Fade NWE ATS & ML.... then Fade both in the Playoffs... movin' on!!!

ebbearsfb1 · 02-06-12, 04:04 PM

They won their first 3 super bowls cause of spy gate... shyt 11 guys from sbr can be great defensive if they know where the play is going a head of time.

mav2112 · 02-06-12, 08:27 PM

They never have really been that impressive in any of their super bowl wins...........hardly a dominate team ever..........

Plus they may have cheated.......I find it amazine they have not won since all that stuff came out..........

dodger33 · 02-06-12, 10:41 PM

Until I see differently I contend Brady is on the decline fast. They drafted Mallett in the hopes that he takes over for Brady in a few years. Look at what GB did with Rodgers. Part of the reason why this organization is always near the top recently is that they draft for the future not just the present year. They are trying to build a dynasty and while staying competitive each year. That being said this was probably a team that should not have even been in the Super Bowl. This was by far the weakest AFC field in a long time. Broncos, Bengals, beat up Pitt team, beat up Houston team, and the Ravens. All that being said you still can't blame this loss on the D. They only scored 17 points. Numerous dropped passes at the end of the game. Plain and simple they got outplayed yesterday.

ChalkyDog · 02-06-12, 10:53 PM

Quake · 02-06-12, 11:13 PM

^^^ That picture is priceless

GunShard · 02-06-12, 11:32 PM

The same can be said for the Packers and Saints.

The Kraken · 02-06-12, 11:48 PM

The same could be said for every team in the NFL in some aspect. Every team needs something. The gmen are easily the most well rounded team in the NFL with a very good head coach. That's why they won. They remind me of the Lakers, they just kind of sleep walk through the regular season, stay healthy and then turn it on when they need to. They'll be contenders the next few years.

dredmahawkus · 02-07-12, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by The Kraken

The same could be said for every team in the NFL in some aspect. Every team needs something. The gmen are easily the most well rounded team in the NFL with a very good head coach. That's why they won. They remind me of the Lakers, they just kind of sleep walk through the regular season, stay healthy and then turn it on when they need to. They'll be contenders the next few years.

How does the patriots wont win shit have anything to do with if the Giants or any other team wins anything? isnt there enough posts about the Giants you could stick this useless post?

and retards that scream that Belichick cheats....why dont you look up what the infraction was that Belichick did to get him fined during "spygate"....none of you obviously know what he did wrong....because you would feel pretty stupid for thinking he did anything different then any other coaching staff in the league. only repeating what other idiot posters post and not knowing for yourself what he did only makes you look really stupid.

cankid · 02-07-12, 02:40 AM

lots of stupid people here, i ve been called worse

jsmithj88 · 02-07-12, 06:03 AM

brady has gone 53-11, 2 mvps and 2 superbowl appearances sincee "spygate"
wtf does "spygate" have to do with anything?

The Kraken · 02-07-12, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by dredmahawkus

How does the patriots wont win shit have anything to do with if the Giants or any other team wins anything? isnt there enough posts about the Giants you could stick this useless post? and retards that scream that Belichick cheats....why dont you look up what the infraction was that Belichick did to get him fined during "spygate"....none of you obviously know what he did wrong....because you would feel pretty stupid for thinking he did anything different then any other coaching staff in the league. only repeating what other idiot posters post and not knowing for yourself what he did only makes you look really stupid.

You obviously lost your homer bet and are now venting out of frustration. I understand. I used to make homer bets when I first started and it would piss me off to no end that my team lost AND I lost a bet. Things will get better and you will get past this depressive state you are in. Hang in there kid, Patriots took second.

dredmahawkus · 02-07-12, 06:29 AM

Trust me from someone who has been sports betting for the last 25 years....losing a little on my homer team doesn't piss me off half as much as an idiot who spouts there mouth off at subject they are uneducated

The topic of this post is about the patriots not winning another superbowl. Yet in this thread and every other thread on the board you like a total homer has to insert something about the giants. I doubt the original poster really gives a fuk what you think about the giants off season when he posted about the patriots off season. I know it's hard for a homer like you to control yourself....but try and stick to the posters subject matter. There's plenty of other Eli is better then Brady posts for you to talk about the giants.

The Kraken · 02-07-12, 06:38 AM

The main idea is that the Pats won't win another super bowl without a better defense. I was simply lending an example of why he is correct. The Giants are the most complete team in football, so they won the Super Bowl. The Giants would not have won without a god awesome defense, just like the patriots didn't win anything without a solid D. He's exactly right and the Giants winning the Super Bowl highlight why.

k13 · 02-07-12, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by The Kraken

The main idea is that the Pats won't win another super bowl without a better defense. I was simply lending an example of why he is correct. The Giants are the most complete team in football, so they won the Super Bowl. The Giants would not have won without a god awesome defense, just like the patriots didn't win anything without a solid D. He's exactly right and the Giants winning the Super Bowl highlight why.

Romanov · 02-07-12, 08:19 AM

How can you say this when they were ONE fxcking catch away from winning this one? Explain yourself

slacker00 · 02-07-12, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by GunShard

The same can be said for the Packers and Saints.

The Packers need Cullen Jenkins back in the worst way. Thompson letting him go cost them a deep run this year.

Saints need home playoff games, they can't win on the road.

Patriots D is way ahead of both of these teams. Heck, they were a play away from winning it all, it's not like they got blown out. With a team that has Brady and all of those weapons, they ought to put more than 17 on the board. If the Packers or Saints went to the Super Bowl and only scored 17, they'd have lost by double digits.

ebbearsfb1 · 02-07-12, 08:35 AM

So its concidences? That since it broke they are 0 in 2 and super bowls.. who cares if he is 53 and 11 ... 0 and 2 in super bowls... and the only reason someone who freak out about it is if they knew it was true... kraken... agreed the giants were very well rounded and healthy.... the steelers are another team who are well rounded but were banged up and it cost them

Smoke · 02-07-12, 08:44 AM

They also need guys who can catch the fukkin ball in big games. Tom can't catch the ball too

Romanov · 02-07-12, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by ebbearsfb1

So its concidences? That since it broke they are 0 in 2 and super bowls.. who cares if he is 53 and 11 ... 0 and 2 in super bowls... and the only reason someone who freak out about it is if they knew it was true... kraken... agreed the giants were very well rounded and healthy.... the steelers are another team who are well rounded but were banged up and it cost them

You're a fxcking gambler. How about VARIANCE? Sometimes the bounces just don't go your way

dredmahawkus · 02-07-12, 09:12 AM

Although the patriots defense wasn't as good as usual superbowls, only allowing 21 points, they did their job! If they drafted a player like Mathews when they had the chance it could have put them over the top....but their offense failed only scoring 17. Gronk was obviously a non factor in that game....and still they were one play from winning the superbowl.

ebbearsfb1 · 02-07-12, 09:15 AM

Yeah when ya have the goods on the team a head of time of course shyt is gonna bounce your way...

jsmithj88 · 02-07-12, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by ebbearsfb1

So its concidences? That since it broke they are 0 in 2 and super bowls.. who cares if he is 53 and 11 ... 0 and 2 in super bowls... and the only reason someone who freak out about it is if they knew it was true... kraken... agreed the giants were very well rounded and healthy.... the steelers are another team who are well rounded but were banged up and it cost them

yea who cares if they win a ridiculous amount of games and made 2 superbowls
it means spygate did wat? nothing. they were successful before and continue to be successful afterwards

jsmithj88 · 02-07-12, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by dredmahawkus

Although the patriots defense wasn't as good as usual superbowls, only allowing 21 points, they did their job! If they drafted a player like Mathews when they had the chance it could have put them over the top....but their offense failed only scoring 17. Gronk was obviously a non factor in that game....and still they were one play from winning the superbowl.

pats D was last in giving up yards, but in the middle when givng up points
21pts was about wat they gave up all year
the offense was the one that underperformed
and a lot of that had to do with gronk not playing 100%
im not saying the pats D doesnt need improving, but they were actually a bit underrated

ebbearsfb1 · 02-07-12, 01:38 PM

Are you judged by regular season wins or super bowls? O that's right... ask the bills of the 90s about all those regular season wins... yay for the regular season

face · 02-07-12, 01:55 PM

they almost won, if welker had made that catch. i'm glad he didn't i had ny football giants

HoulihansTX · 02-07-12, 03:15 PM

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Full Time Hobo · 02-07-12, 04:24 PM

They need more talent.
They get all these guys that can play but just don't have it when they match up against "rounded" teams.
They are terrible when it comes to drafting too. Give up opportunity for so and so to get 5 no names.

Iced · 02-07-12, 04:40 PM

Another stupid thread.

The Pats only gave up 21 points. The offense lost the game, not the defense.

ByeShea · 02-07-12, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

The gmen are easily the most well rounded team in the NFL with a very good head coach. That's why they won. They remind me of the Lakers, they just kind of sleep walk through the regular season, stay healthy and then turn it on when they need to. They'll be contenders the next few years.

The most impressive thing about the Giants is that they won the Superbowl. Once you analyze the team and review their games they become less impressive. This isn't dynasty. They're just keeping the seat warm for either the Saints or someone new, like the Texans or the Lions to start winning titles.

I know it's better to be lucky than good, but the Giants were the beneficiaries of a decades' worth of good luck, after a particularly unlucky preseason.

ebbearsfb1 · 02-07-12, 05:54 PM

Giants were extremely lucky... if you tthink otherwise ur full of it... just look at the basic fact that dallas blew a 27 3 lead to the lions... if that doesn't happen they don't even get in... add do that the the bounces they got against the niners and pats.. but either way sometimes its better to be lucky then good. And they are the champs

ebbearsfb1 · 02-07-12, 06:04 PM

Just like last year when the packers needed a shyt ton of luck to get in.... they got in and made it happen... krazy how the game works... better to be lucky then good