What Would the Pats of Done if they Caught that Hail Mary?

[rm18]

This is an interesting hypothetical they could of done 3 things

1. take a knee
2. kick PAT
3. go for two

also could of possibly lined up against no defense if the Giants ran off the field. I think they would of took a knee, but if no defense lined up Brady might of just walked in to win by 4.

[dudekid]

im assuming you mean the hail mary in the end zone? im guessing they would have scored the TD, kicked the PAT, went ahead by 3, and pushed/covered the damn spread

[ProfaneReality]

how is this a hypothetical ? there was no time left on the clock.. game would have been over 23-21 final..

[ebbearsfb1]

Probably kicked.. would of only mattered for the spread.. don't believe u can return extra points for points in the nfl

[Sam Odom]

odd thread

[rm18]

how is this a hypothetical ? there was no time left on the clock.. game would have been over 23-21 final..

no you have to attempt conversion, that is college rules

[Landscaper]

What's going on? Not following

[SportsMushroom]

it ha snothing to do with the topic but it still bothers me

do they not teach the word 'have' in schools any more?

[blackbeSSt]

no you have to attempt conversion, that is college rules

uhh, no you don't. if you score a td to win at end of regulation there's no pat

[rm18]

uhh, no you don't. if you score a td to win at end of regulation there's no pat

http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=291129010

did they change the rules since this game I remember having to sweat out if the Titans would kick or take a knee had them -2.5

[blackbeSSt]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=291129010 did they change the rules since this game I remember having to sweat out if the Titans would kick or take a knee had them -2.5

maybe its ot that im thinkin you don't have to kick a pat

[jjgold]

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[ebbearsfb1]

Nfl u do.. college you don't..

[blackbeSSt]

Nfl u do.. college you don't..

yeah i had ot nfl in my mind. you don't have to there either

[Br0nxer]

wouldn't of kicked the extra pt

game wold been over at 23-21

xtra points kicked at zero on clock in regulation in the regular season are only done because one of the playoff tiebreakers is points scored

[milwaukee mike]

wouldn't of kicked the extra pt

game wold been over at 23-21

xtra points kicked at zero on clock in regulation in the regular season are only done because one of the playoff tiebreakers is points scored

please show me in the nfl rule book where it says extra point attempts are mandatory "except in playoff games and the super bowl" because i don't see it

[milwaukee mike]

this is the only exception in the nfl rule book

"Note 5: See 16-1-1 for exception when a touchdown is scored in an overtime period"

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/2011_Rule_Book.pdf

[d2bets]

please show me in the nfl rule book where it says extra point attempts are mandatory "except in playoff games and the super bowl" because i don't see it

You're right in theory and certainly the idea is that they line up and attempt the extra point, but I don't see how they could force them to do it. What would the downside if they said eff it we're celebrating, game over? Could/would the refs penalize them for delay of game and then say game can't end on penalty so they have to kick off? I doubt it. And of course they could have lined up and taken a knee. It would have been wild if it happened because I'm sure the field would have been rushed if the pass was caught and they'd have to spend minutes to clear the field to do that. And in this game of course it's no secret to anyone what the line was, so there would have been people yelling either way. I think they would have kicked it, but honestly I don't really know.

[Br0nxer]

please show me in the nfl rule book where it says extra point attempts are mandatory "except in playoff games and the super bowl" because i don't see it

i know its mandatory in the regular season in regulation time when the score comes right at 0:00

and the only reason it is mandatory is like i said one of the playoff tiebreakers is points scored

they will drag both teams out of the locker room to kick that extra point if they have to which i remember happening a few years ago after a long review on the td

really don't see any reason why it would need to be kicked in the Super Bowl but if thats what the rule says i guess thats what it is

[Sam Odom]

80% chance

after the hail mary catch Pats would have rushed the field and reporters would have followed - Refs look at clock 00:00 - Refs run off field

[Coming Back!]

uhh, no you don't. if you score a td to win at end of regulation there's no pat

Yes there is- 100%

[Coming Back!]

This is actually a great post. It would of been crazy. The players don't know that and neither does the media. The rule doesn't really make sense. It would of been utter chaos. The Giants would of left the field. They could care less after having their guts ripped out. And if the refs cleared the field, would Brady who would of been high on life take a knee or just run it in and do an F U spike. I think Brady would of ran it in, being high on life and done a F U spike. That's my guess and gamblers would scream bloody murder

[d2bets]

This is actually a great post. It would of been crazy. The players don't know that and neither does the media. The rule doesn't really make sense. It would of been utter chaos. The Giants would of left the field. They could care less after having their guts ripped out. And if the refs cleared the field, would Brady who would of been high on life take a knee or just run it in and do an F U spike. I think Brady would of ran it in, being high on life and done a F U spike. That's my guess and gamblers would scream bloody murder

I don't know. It would have been a crazy situation for sure. Billions of dollars on the line based on what the refs said in a meaningless situation with the game decided. I wonder if maybe the refs would have said you gotta line up or it's a flag and the game can't end on a flag. Of course they could take a knee. And if the defense just flat out doesn't show up that's even more bizarre.

[dilaudid8]

no pat

the guy that said 100 percent is wrong if N.E. would have scored the TD with no time left that's it game over this I know for 100 percent N.E. would have won by 2 point's they only kick the extra point only during the season not in the playoff's with no time left that you can take to the bank because everybody and there mother was on the field so no extra point

[warriorfan707]

They would have kicked the fukkin extra point

Why the hell is this even being asked/debated

[milwaukee mike]

They would have kicked the fukkin extra point

Why the hell is this even being asked/debated

it's being debated because the field might have been rushed. but in this situation the refs make everyone get back off the field so they can kick the extra point.
referee team is going to do things by the rules, especially in a highly scrutinized game like the super bowl. you think a ref wants to get fired for not following the rules?

[Wrigley]

how is this a hypothetical ? there was no time left on the clock.. game would have been over 23-21 final..

There would have been no PAT attempt only during the regular season since points can be used in NFL tiebreaks to break ties in standings, no need to break ties for standings in playoffs

[milwaukee mike]

There would have been no PAT attempt only during the regular season since points can be used in NFL tiebreaks to break ties in standings, no need to break ties for standings in playoffs

wrigley i already showed the official nfl rules.
the rules say that a pat has to be attempted, even if the score is at the end of the game. the rules do not have an exception for playoff games or the super bowl, with the exception of sudden death overtime.

so just because some of you think that there would be no pat, you are wrong the rules state there has to be an attempt or the game isn't over.

[thechaoz]

Weird never even thought of this really. I am assuming the craziness that would of ensued I'm not sure anyone would of thought of it. Pretty anti-climatic if you ask me.

[d2bets]

wrigley i already showed the official nfl rules.
the rules say that a pat has to be attempted, even if the score is at the end of the game. the rules do not have an exception for playoff games or the super bowl, with the exception of sudden death overtime.

so just because some of you think that there would be no pat, you are wrong the rules state there has to be an attempt or the game isn't over.

So then what would the refs do if the Pats refused? Would they flag them and then get the Giants back on the field and let them receive a kickoff because the game can't end on a flag?

I mean, I'm sure if the refs had told NE to line up then I'm sure they would have, I'm just wondering what the recourse would be if they didn't.

[smitch124]

was hoping SF/GB game on Jan 3, 1999 would answer the question but SF scored with 3 seconds left, any playoff game you can think of that ended on a TD on the last play?

http://www.footballdb.com/boxscore/1999010302

[milwaukee mike]

was hoping SF/GB game on Jan 3, 1999 would answer the question but SF scored with 3 seconds left, any playoff game you can think of that ended on a TD on the last play?

http://www.footballdb.com/boxscore/1999010302

oh great you had to remind me of the t.o. game?
after the fumble by rice that wasn't called?